Stop-Start Systems

[Vratenza]

I think other than battery, the other parts of the whole engine cranking system needs to be uprated to handle the extra load from the more frequent start stopping.

[CYHew]

Embrace technology changes and evolved. Otherwise we are just walking with dinosaurs and get crushed.

[flashbang]

SS system sounds irritating but if it really saves fuel and doesn't cause additional wear and tear, I am fine with it. 

[Dilemma]

  On 3/15/2016 at 10:54 PM, ER-3682 said:

If the battery is not strong enough,it will not 'stop' the engine,usually a warning message will be show.

Just sidekick a bit,how you find your Golf.?Any problem so far.?Like DSG.?

 

driving it for almost 1.5 years. so far no problems except the flat battery but the vw recovery came in about 30 mins to replace the battery. would say its one of the best drive i ever had.

[Heman75]

  On 5/4/2015 at 10:10 AM, Vid said:

I hate start/stop. Disable when I drive.

Me too

  On 3/16/2016 at 12:30 AM, flashbang said:

SS system sounds irritating but if it really saves fuel and doesn't cause additional wear and tear, I am fine with it. 

i never trust SS system. if you are an engineer you will know that frequent on off is bad for the overall system although you may claim the design is carefully undertaken. cyclic stress loading is bad.

[Runforyourlife]

  On 3/16/2016 at 1:29 PM, Heman75 said:

Me too

 

i never trust SS system. if you are an engineer you will know that frequent on off is bad for the overall system although you may claim the design is carefully undertaken. cyclic stress loading is bad.

Heard for some ss engines, if you off it, another can of worms. Car prone to unnecessary vibrations etc.

[RadX]

  On 3/17/2016 at 12:04 AM, Runforyourlife said:

Heard for some ss engines, if you off it, another can of worms. Car prone to unnecessary vibrations etc.

 

 

hmmm vibration from heysho heysho? @mockngbrd say wan

 

pls be more specific hor...

  On 3/16/2016 at 12:30 AM, flashbang said:

SS system sounds irritating but if it really saves fuel and doesn't cause additional wear and tear, I am fine with it. 

 

 

that's what it is intended for.  Dunno why ppl are so resistant to change.

 

My 5 series coming to 4 years, still no issues.....the paranoia amongst these 'old fuddies' is really befuddling

[Runforyourlife]

  On 3/17/2016 at 12:10 AM, RadX said:

hmmm vibration from heysho heysho? @mockngbrd say wan

 

pls be more specific hor...

 

 

 

that's what it is intended for. Dunno why ppl are so resistant to change.

 

My 5 series coming to 4 years, still no issues.....the paranoia amongst these 'old fuddies' is really befuddling

When no heysio, car vibrate ma chiam got heysio. Den complain why car will heysio by itself. Cos no ss lo, always start no stop whahahaha

[Blueray]

  On 2/16/2016 at 9:06 AM, RadX said:

Tt why my brake pads, 3.5 yrs still left 5mm... On first set summore. I use the brakes only when necessary

 

sounds like you are very adept at feathering your throttle ... well done ...

[Runforyourlife]

Feathering @RadX throttle sounds great

 

I think it's important for peeps to start using for like 2 years at least and say if it causes engine breakdown or smth within the two years, else there's simply no evidence showing ss system is not the future or the system is flawed.

[RadX]

  On 3/17/2016 at 12:22 AM, Blueray said:

sounds like you are very adept at feathering your throttle ... well done ...

 

 

tel me abt it.  I never use brakes unnecessarily.  Most of time,  engine brake!

 

incidentally cos of this loong delay, felt uneasy and went to my friendly workshop and he verified that my brakes, 

 

Front 8mm left - still can go another 8k,

 

Rear, still 5mm left - can go another 5k.....kena suan by my friend say 'your driving style lah'   

 

I want to change oso he say, 'no need lah'.  Follow his advise lor

 

oh well.  Guess goes to good driving habits

  On 3/17/2016 at 12:24 AM, Runforyourlife said:

Feathering @RadX throttle sounds great

 

I think it's important for peeps to start using for like 2 years at least and say if it causes engine breakdown or smth within the two years, else there's simply no evidence showing ss system is not the future or the system is flawed.

 

 

nb...you stay away from my throttle....    

[jg2000]

  On 3/17/2016 at 12:26 AM, RadX said:

tel me abt it.  I never use brakes unnecessarily.  Most of time,  engine brake!

 

incidentally cos of this loong delay, felt uneasy and went to my friendly workshop and he verified that my brakes, 

 

Front 8mm left - still can go another 8k,

 

Rear, still 5mm left - can go another 5k.....kena suan by my friend say 'your driving style lah'   

 

I want to change oso he say, 'no need lah'.  Follow his advise lor

 

oh well.  Guess goes to good driving habits

 

 

nb...you stay away from my throttle....    

 

Read somewhere that engine brake means wear and tear on engine and gearbox whereas brake brake means wear on brake.

 

The author said cheaper to repair/replace brake than engine/transmission, and so he rather use brake brake unless in situations where you need engine brake - e.g. for downhill where brakes will get too hot and ineffective if brake too long, or for more effective cornering to go in and out the curve faster at high speeds. 

 

Don't know how true is above.

Any engineers can answer?

 

 

Edited March 17, 2016 by jg2000

[RadX]

  On 3/17/2016 at 1:19 AM, jg2000 said:

Read somewhere that engine brake means wear and tear on engine and gearbox whereas brake brake means wear on brake.

 

The author said cheaper to repair/replace brake than engine/transmission, and so he rather use brake brake unless in situations where you need engine brake - e.g. for downhill where brakes will get too hot and ineffective if brake too long, or for more effective cornering to go in and out the curve faster at high speeds. 

 

Don't know how true is above.

Any engineers can answer?

 

 

 

 

also coupled with the fact that I do feather teh throttle and not aggresively accelerate and brake unnecessarily.  Highway driving too is most part of my routine.

 

Car coming to 4 years anyway, due for change  

[Mockngbrd]

  On 3/17/2016 at 1:19 AM, jg2000 said:

Read somewhere that engine brake means wear and tear on engine and gearbox whereas brake brake means wear on brake.

 

The author said cheaper to repair/replace brake than engine/transmission, and so he rather use brake brake unless in situations where you need engine brake - e.g. for downhill where brakes will get too hot and ineffective if brake too long, or for more effective cornering to go in and out the curve faster at high speeds.

 

Don't know how true is above.

Any engineers can answer?

 

 

Must b very lousy engine / gearbox

[RadX]

  On 3/17/2016 at 1:33 AM, Mockngbrd said:

Must b very lousy engine / gearbox

 

LOL...

 

btw bro, at R2d, there was an E30 and E34.  Any chance yours previously?  

[Weez911]

  On 3/17/2016 at 1:33 AM, Mockngbrd said:

Must b very lousy engine / gearbox

 

Otaku, that 912 girl in PVC pants is gan pua hawt. You win

  On 3/17/2016 at 1:41 AM, RadX said:

LOL...

 

btw bro, at R2d, there was an E30 and E34.  Any chance yours previously?  

 

If that E34 you saw is kim kim, then it's Otaku's. He just did a comprehensive grooming of his lao charbor.

[Etnt]

More irritated by the shudder when the engine starts, think it's a matter of getting used to.

[Happily1986]

  On 2/3/2016 at 8:41 AM, Davidtch said:

All start stop system to use AGM battery as it could withstand the drain.

 

In addition, alternator & starter motor is also larger.

Any AGM battery to recommend? Difficult to find Panasonic AGM batteries locally.