Kia Carens 2015: all new 7-seater arrives

[Mkl22]

Some more diesel no sparkies to change. But dunno how affordable or ex is diesel maint package compared to petrol. Is it also at 10k km interval?

Spark plugs are cheap and last a long time. Even regular plugs easily last 20-30k km. The iridium plugs last easily 100k. Plugs are the least of your concern with regards to cost

[Spring]

Looks like different for 2.0 petrol and 1.7 diesel is $5k atm.

 

for clocking 1500km per month, U could save about 1.5k - 2k per year.

here the calculation:

Using today Shell pump price: diesel @ $1.06; Fuel safe 95 @ $1.86

Assuming diesel fc @ 17km/L and petrol @ 10km/L

 

Diesel : 1500/17*$1.06 = $93

Petrol : 1500/10*1.86 = $279

 

save $186 per month. Year is $2232.

Mileage per year is 18k, need 2 servicing, part aside $500 extra for diesel servicing just in case if is more expensive.

And minus $300 extra for expensive diesel road tax, U can save about $1500 per year.

And insurance for low cc should be cheaper. Save further.

X10 years !!!

Should be able to justify for $5k diff between 2.0 petrol and 1.7 diesel.

And if U love the extra torque power on diesel engine!!!

Tks for the efforts in calculating. I doubt if a diesel can give u 70% better FC. I mentioned before I get 30% better n I'm sure those driving more highways may get better but at most will be 40-50% more but don't think anything more than that is achievable, my 2 cents n guess need more feedback from those who switched from petrol to diesel to give comments.

[Fuelsaver]

Spark plugs are cheap and last a long time. Even regular plugs easily last 20-30k km. The iridium plugs last easily 100k. Plugs are the least of your concern with regards to cost

We know, just that some r concerned about maintenance so i pointed this out. Not a big deal, but to some mayb evry cent counts?

[Asky2505]

Some more diesel no sparkies to change. But dunno how affordable or ex is diesel maint package compared to petrol. Is it also at 10k km interval?

You may wana refer to my earlier post. I called up Kia svcing dept to compare e cost of Sorento petrol vs diesel. And e price of carens petrol to gauge. Cuz carens diesel svcing price not out yet

[Fuelsaver]

You may wana refer to my earlier post. I called up Kia svcing dept to compare e cost of Sorento petrol vs diesel. And e price of carens petrol to gauge. Cuz carens diesel svcing price not out yet

Noted w tks bro

[teomingern]

What is not mentioned is the need to replace the NOx reduction. Some brands use AdBlue like Peugeot and Citroen. Also known more generally as selective catalytic reduction. It's a consumable. Renault uses a different method. They use NOx traps. So there are no consumables to replace.

 

Good read here:http://www.dieselcar.com/features/euro-6-understanding-the-new-regulations/

[cyanide24]

Petrol is e EX model only. So the diff is only 101999 vs 106999

EX only has 2 airbags though.

From a safety angle, Petrol should be compared to Diesel SX?

[No_worries]

Most diesel run cars tend to have this 'sourish' smell in the cabin after a while. Perhaps this is due to the diesel itself.

 

I am comparing this with petrol run cars with taxis together with my colleague's Renault Scenic which is 2 years old and runs on diesel.

 

And no, I don't mean the sweat smell from our bodies, but the smell of the fuel.

Edited February 22, 2016 by No_worries

[EvenStar]

EX only has 2 airbags though.

From a safety angle, Petrol should be compared to Diesel SX?

 

If safety come first, cannot compare glass roof with steel roof.

[Asky2505]

What is not mentioned is the need to replace the NOx reduction. Some brands use AdBlue like Peugeot and Citroen. Also known more generally as selective catalytic reduction. It's a consumable. Renault uses a different method. They use NOx traps. So there are no consumables to replace.

 

Good read here:http://www.dieselcar.com/features/euro-6-understanding-the-new-regulations/

Carens uses a catalyst. So no worries abt e ad blue depleting

[cyanide24]

If safety come first, cannot compare glass roof with steel roof.

True true... we just have to make a choice based on what we want. 

[smgdc]

Kia pricing not consistent throughout. Someone in the Sorento thread said Kia gave him 4K +4K discount even without taking loan or trade in car. So unfair for those forced to take up loan and trade in car.

[EvenStar]

Kia pricing not consistent throughout. Someone in the Sorento thread said Kia gave him 4K +4K discount even without taking loan or trade in car. So unfair for those forced to take up loan and trade in car.

 

People can write what they want, end of the day buyer has to decide whether they can accept the price tag else just walk.

 

Sorento is a different car, on a different price bracket. There are many factors that drive the sale.

[Kennethoka]

C&C has updated Carens price to $5000 less

[Blackyv]

Kia pricing not consistent throughout. Someone in the Sorento thread said Kia gave him 4K +4K discount even without taking loan or trade in car. So unfair for those forced to take up loan and trade in car.

Nothing is fair in this world, learn to accept that and polish up your nego skill..hehe

[Kennethoka]

Kia pricing not consistent throughout. Someone in the Sorento thread said Kia gave him 4K +4K discount even without taking loan or trade in car. So unfair for those forced to take up loan and trade in car.

It is depend on the SE whether he want to ask their boss. But having said that, C&C Leng Kee is very difficult to nego on the trade in and the loan. but for the fulco Ubi, you can try. it is easier to nego on the trade in discount. they will give you the 4K discount even you don't trade in your car.

[teomingern]

It is depend on the SE whether he want to ask their boss. But having said that, C&C Leng Kee is very difficult to nego on the trade in and the loan. but for the fulco Ubi, you can try. it is easier to nego on the trade in discount. they will give you the 4K discount even you don't trade in your car.

 

Hang on... you said Fulco Ubi & C&C Leng Kee... are these two competing authorised dealers or are they the same company? 

[Kennethoka]

Hang on... you said Fulco Ubi & C&C Leng Kee... are these two competing authorised dealers or are they the same company? 

Actually i did went Fulco Ubi to test drive K5 and i ask the SE, he told me that C&C authorised them to sell KIA. so I think Fulco Ubi is like 'sub contractor' to C&C. And i did test them and ask if i don't have car to trade in since i am going to buy my first car then i cannot enjoy the additional 4K discount is it? then the SE said he can help me to nego with his supervisor. I think mostly can get the additional 4K discount even you don't trade in the car.