Kia Carens 2015: all new 7-seater arrives

[teomingern]

The new 1.7 CRDi engine isn't very worth while to get... the road tax is pretty high while the diesel saving isn't as much if you don't drive a lot... so you need to do a total cost calculation before you decide on diesel or petrol.

[Donald83]

The new 1.7 CRDi engine isn't very worth while to get... the road tax is pretty high while the diesel saving isn't as much if you don't drive a lot... so you need to do a total cost calculation before you decide on diesel or petrol.

How much are we talking abt? Im going to view this Thursday

[Spring]

The new 1.7 CRDi engine isn't very worth while to get... the road tax is pretty high while the diesel saving isn't as much if you don't drive a lot... so you need to do a total cost calculation before you decide on diesel or petrol.

 

For 1.5l diesel, the extra road tax is under $50 per mth so 1.7l shld be abit more.

 

Diesel gives you approx. 30% better mileage on average and diesel cost is 45% cheaper than RON 95 ($1 vs $1.82)**

 

You can do the sums yourselves based on your mileage incurred.

 

**Figures are based on my usage when I changed from petrol 1.6l to diesel 1.5l based on 80 City/20 highway usage.

How much are we talking abt? Im going to view this Thursday

 

[Asky2505]

For 1.5l diesel, the extra road tax is under $50 per mth so 1.7l shld be abit more.

 

Diesel gives you approx. 30% better mileage on average and diesel cost is 45% cheaper than RON 95 ($1 vs $1.82)**

 

You can do the sums yourselves based on your mileage incurred.

 

**Figures are based on my usage when I changed from petrol 1.6l to diesel 1.5l based on 80 City/20 highway usage.

The annual road tax is 1542 vs 786. Diff is 756.

 

If 1 mth you drive ard 2000km, with carens fc of 17km/l, you will pump ard 117l, costing $117. A petrol mpv will require 200l as typical fc is 10km/l,costing $364. So you will save $247/mth. Just 3 mths and you will start benefiting.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Asky2505

[Jeffc]

Is it just me or there aren't any Kia Carens on the road at all?

I have only seen 1 in the past 10 days.

How about you guys?

Seen at least 30 Wishes though.

You will see them on the road, if SiverCab will to order them for their fleet.

[Donald83]

The annual road tax is 1542 vs 786. Diff is 756.

 

If 1 mth you drive ard 2000km, with carens fc of 17km/l, you will pump ard 117l, costing $117. A petrol mpv will require 200l as typical fc is 10km/l,costing $364. So you will save $247/mth. Just 3 mths and you will start benefiting.

Noted on this but what about other expenses for maintaining a diesel car? Diesel engines not as reliable as petrol engines? Just afraid of other unexpected costs

[Asky2505]

Noted on this but what about other expenses for maintaining a diesel car? Diesel engines not as reliable as petrol engines? Just afraid of other unexpected costs

I've shared on the svcing cost earlier. Kia offers 5yrs warranty with unltd mileage and 10yrs engine warranty

[Donald83]

 

**Updated** Diesel price to $1, instead of $1.86

 

 

Doesn't seem much of a savings to me as im comparing with my Civic. In fact it will cost more after factoring road tax and servicing.

 

I clock 1,000 km per mth. Carens Diesel FC only 17kn/l ?

Edited February 16, 2016 by Donald83

[Haman]

Hi, your Diesel price does not look correct. How come is the same price as petrol?

[Donald83]

Hi, your Diesel price does not look correct. How come is the same price as petrol?

 

Forgot to change. haha.

 

let me recalculate

[Spring]

 

 

Doesn't seem much of a savings to me as im comparing with my Civic. In fact it will cost more after factoring road tax and servicing.

 

I clock 1,000 km per mth. Carens Diesel FC only 17kn/l ?

 

1k per mth mileage is abit low to enjoy diesel benefits. Ideally should be more than 20k per year.

I'm not sure of Carens FC but avg of 17km/l if on 50/50 Highway/City is OK IMO.

 

Those guys getting close to 20km/l likely to be on 90/10 Highway/City at least as start/stop traffic will not give you good FC neither petrol nor diesel.

[Donald83]

Sorry i made a mistake in Diesel price. Updated already

 

So savings will be around $1.1k per year if i switch from Civic 1.6l (getting 12km/litre petrol) to Carens DIesel (expected 17km/l)

 

I thought i saw other diesel models can get 20+km/litre??

 

 

[Ozkaki]

I doubt caren petrol can give 17km per l. Likely about 11 to 14 for most.

[teomingern]

The annual road tax is 1542 vs 786. Diff is 756.

 

If 1 mth you drive ard 2000km, with carens fc of 17km/l, you will pump ard 117l, costing $117. A petrol mpv will require 200l as typical fc is 10km/l,costing $364. So you will save $247/mth. Just 3 mths and you will start benefiting.

 

How many people drive 2000 km a month? That's super high mileage... that's why I said unless you clock more than 1500 km a month, it's not very worth as the road tax is really high.

Sorry i made a mistake in Diesel price. Updated already

 

So savings will be around $1.1k per year if i switch from Civic 1.6l (getting 12km/litre petrol) to Carens DIesel (expected 17km/l)

 

I thought i saw other diesel models can get 20+km/litre??

 

20+ km/L? Wait long long in our kind of driving conditions... my dad's Renault Fluence 1.5 L turbodiesel can only clock 17 km/L. On good days, barely touching 19 km/L... 20+ is what the car companies quote you... that's under ideal load and driving circumstances... ideal = constant speed, zero acceleration and decelerations under load... who drives like that in Singapore?

I doubt caren petrol can give 17km per l. Likely about 11 to 14 for most.

 

10-12 km/L is more realistic for petrol... as long as you run a 2.0 L engine, that's the range you're going to get if you don't do more than 70% highway.

[Blackyv]

How many people drive 2000 km a month? That's super high mileage... that's why I said unless you clock more than 1500 km a month, it's not very worth as the road tax is really high.

 

20+ km/L? Wait long long in our kind of driving conditions... my dad's Renault Fluence 1.5 L turbodiesel can only clock 17 km/L. On good days, barely touching 19 km/L... 20+ is what the car companies quote you... that's under ideal load and driving circumstances... ideal = constant speed, zero acceleration and decelerations under load... who drives like that in Singapore?

 

10-12 km/L is more realistic for petrol... as long as you run a 2.0 L engine, that's the range you're going to get if you don't do more than 70% highway.

 

i always take minimum 25% off from stated FC specification and its about there...

[teomingern]

i always take minimum 25% off from stated FC specification and its about there...

 

Yup, that's the ballpark lar...

Edited February 16, 2016 by teomingern

[cyanide24]

1k per mth mileage is abit low to enjoy diesel benefits. Ideally should be more than 20k per year.

I'm not sure of Carens FC but avg of 17km/l if on 50/50 Highway/City is OK IMO.

 

Those guys getting close to 20km/l likely to be on 90/10 Highway/City at least as start/stop traffic will not give you good FC neither petrol nor diesel.

Another cost to factor in is the higher price of diesel SX over petrol.

About $3-5K more. If drive over 10 yrs, another $300-500 / yr.

Edited February 16, 2016 by cyanide24

[Blackyv]

Another cost to factor in is the higher price of diesel SX over petrol.

About $3-5K more. If drive over 10 yrs, another $300-500 / yr.

 

, diesel is really for those with high mileage driver and you have to do the maths to decide...