Post New car collection Blues

[ER-3682]

  On 4/19/2015 at 7:12 AM, Vinceng said:

Based on personal experience, ECU may not give accurate fuel readings.

 

Best to pump till full and take km travelled divide by litres consumed.

Agreed,the most 90% accurate....those windscreen FC label on new cars even worse ,can trust only 50%..can NEVER get it on S'pore Roads.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/19/2015 at 7:12 AM, Vinceng said:

Based on personal experience, ECU may not give accurate fuel readings.

 

Best to pump till full and take km travelled divide by litres consumed.

The A3 ECU is pretty accurate. I am on my 3rd tank since collecting car and the ECU cummalative avg said 17.8km/l with avg speed 37km/h. This compared quite close with the manual pump reading calc avg of 2 tanks at 17.3km/l Edited April 19, 2015 by zerobim08

[Nissan833]

  On 4/19/2015 at 7:37 AM, zerobim08 said:

The A3 ECU is pretty accurate. I am on my 3rd tank since collecting car and the ECU cummalative avg said 17.8km/l with avg speed 37km/h. This compared quite close with the manual pump reading calc avg of 2 tanks at 17.3km/l

 

Yours mostly highways or at least 70% right? Others here maybe 50/50 or 60/40 so they can't achieve your figures one even if same ride.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/19/2015 at 7:54 AM, Nissan833 said:

 

Yours mostly highways or at least 70% right? Others here maybe 50/50 or 60/40 so they can't achieve your figures one even if same ride.

I think you have to qualify what highway mean. Yes I am on e-way 70% to get 17.3km/l but it is still mostly peak hour slow traffic. But I agree you won't get my figure if you are in city with lots of start stop traffic light and crawl speed.

 

I am pretty sure the a3 could really get 20-22 km/l (as in manufacturer spec) when doing real highway driving like nshw. In UK forums for the same car people are claiming the 55 to 60 miles per gallon as well on e-way.

Edited April 19, 2015 by zerobim08

[Nissan833]

  On 4/19/2015 at 8:10 AM, zerobim08 said:

I think you have to qualify what highway mean. Yes I am on e-way 70% to get 17.3km/l but it is still mostly peak hour slow traffic. But I agree you won't get my figure if you are in city with lots of start stop traffic light and crawl speed.

 

I am pretty sure the a3 could really get 20-22 km/l (as in manufacturer spec) when doing real highway driving like nshw. In UK forums for the same car people are claiming the 55 to 60 miles per gallon as well on e-way.

 

Those figures like 20km/L is attainable but not realistic. Most people here include 50-60% of city driving.. this sort of driving usually gives 6-9km/L.

 

There was once I started and drove from ECP until West Coast Park and my FC reading was 23.2km/L because totally no city driving at all, even when the highway was moderate traffic.

 

So people need to learn to take these figures with a pinch of salt lor, don't blur blur go believe everyone can get these kind of FC. It depends on home and office location and distance from highways.

 

Btw, your A3 wasn't "detuned" to get 122-125bhp. That is the max the factory tuner can get from that engine cap and single small turbocharger and get it to operate within designs specifications. Unless of course you go for ECU remap, that's a different story.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/19/2015 at 9:28 AM, Nissan833 said:

 

Those figures like 20km/L is attainable but not realistic. Most people here include 50-60% of city driving.. this sort of driving usually gives 6-9km/L.

 

There was once I started and drove from ECP until West Coast Park and my FC reading was 23.2km/L because totally no city driving at all, even when the highway was moderate traffic.

 

So people need to learn to take these figures with a pinch of salt lor, don't blur blur go believe everyone can get these kind of FC. It depends on home and office location and distance from highways.

 

Btw, your A3 wasn't "detuned" to get 122-125bhp. That is the max the factory tuner can get from that engine cap and single small turbocharger and get it to operate within designs specifications. Unless of course you go for ECU remap, that's a different story.

Not going to debate what is realistic or not. Like you say it depends a lot on the person driving style and traffic conditions.

 

For me the reality is I can get 16-17 km/h with this car for my travelling profile (which I think is shared by many others i.e from home drive to nearest entry into e-way then exit from e-way to your place of work). Just for comparison my previous 1.6L car got 11-12km/l on the same travelling profile. I am pretty impressed with how frugal the a3 is.

 

Maybe my choice of word is wrong but I saw there is another choice for the same 1.4L engine for A3 which gives 150hp instead of 125hp.

Edited April 19, 2015 by zerobim08

[Nissan833]

  On 4/19/2015 at 10:58 AM, zerobim08 said:

Not going to debate what is realistic or not. Like you say it depends a lot on the person driving style and traffic conditions.

 

For me the reality is most probably I can get 16-17 km/h with this car for my travelling profile (which I think is shared by many others i.e from home drive to nearest entry into e-way then exit from e-way to your place of work). Just for comparison my previous 1.6L car got 11-12km/l on the same travelling profile. I am pretty impressed with how frugal the a3 is.

 

Maybe my choice of word is wrong but I saw there is another choice for the same 1.4L engine for A3 which gives 150hp instead of 125hp.

 

A3 is 1.4T or 2.0T petrol turbo.. yours is 1.4T with 122/125 bhp, single turbocharger, no supercharger. 140/150bhp should be twincharger in Jetta sports / Scirocco, I don't think that's in the new A3. New A3 have 2.0T diesel which I drove overseas and it had 150bhp, not available in SG though (I think). So yours isn't detuned, just for your info, don't be mistaken.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:10 AM, Nissan833 said:

 

A3 is 1.4T or 2.0T petrol turbo.. yours is 1.4T with 122/125 bhp, single turbocharger, no supercharger. 140/150bhp should be twincharger in Jetta sports / Scirocco, I don't think that's in the new A3. New A3 have 2.0T diesel which I drove overseas and it had 150bhp, not available in SG though (I think). So yours isn't detuned, just for your info, don't be mistaken.

But I saw in the A3 brochure there is another 1.4L engine which has 150hp (not available in singapore). It is not twin/super but just turbo charged engine. If I am not mistaken this engine is used in the entry level Q3 (selling in Singapore).

[ER-3682]

150 Bhp will be with Cat B COE,more expensive ...OMV also higher than the "below 20,000 class",subject to higher taxes if bring in.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:15 PM, ER-3682 said:

150 Bhp will be with Cat B COE,more expensive ...OMV also higher than the "below 20,000 class",subject to higher taxes if bring in.

That's why I think the 125hp version is a tuned down of the 150hp specifically cater for this market. Doesn't make sense if it is 2 different 1.4L design. Wondering whether it would be easy to retune the 125 to 150hp (not that I will do it since it is illegal)

 

Btw: the A3 sold here omv is already $27k.

[So_nice]

Was looking through 2013-2014 cars for sale on sgcarmart..saw this 185bhp 250nm A1..$128k..jan 2014 model. Damn yummy

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=446705&DL=2707

[Enye]

TS can change this thread to Post new car collection euphoria instead?

 

[Little_prince]

aiya. new car what's there to be blue sia.

 

you wait you buy car at 70k coe then next day after collection drop to $50 coe then you CONFIRM not only blue. but maybe turn purple!

[Pocus]

  On 4/20/2015 at 3:18 AM, So_nice said:

Was looking through 2013-2014 cars for sale on sgcarmart..saw this 185bhp 250nm A1..$128k..jan 2014 model. Damn yummy

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=446705&DL=2707

Yummy but may have afterbitter taste.

There no problem buying the A1 but I still don't trust the 7spd s-tronic or dsg gearbox. If only they had manual.

[So_nice]

  On 4/20/2015 at 6:22 AM, Pocus said:

Yummy but may have afterbitter taste.

There no problem buying the A1 but I still don't trust the 7spd s-tronic or dsg gearbox. If only they had manual.

I drool nia..no money for this car. The last full cash item I had was this morning's yakun set b wif upsize kopi-o :'(

[Damien22]

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:35 PM, zerobim08 said:

That's why I think the 125hp version is a tuned down of the 150hp specifically cater for this market. Doesn't make sense if it is 2 different 1.4L design. Wondering whether it would be easy to retune the 125 to 150hp (not that I will do it since it is illegal)

 

Btw: the A3 sold here omv is already $27k.

 

I am not sure about that. However the 1.4L 125bhp version is meant for frugality, not for power. Probably also for local market to keep it within Cat A. However, if you do MTM stage 1 tuning, you can get the additional power out of it. However, I think the 125bhp is necessary for daily driving. Definitely not sluggish.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/20/2015 at 3:25 AM, Enye said:

TS can change this thread to Post new car collection euphoria instead?

 

 

What is there to be euphoric? Buying a car is letting yourself to be gutted. See the following on how much tax you paid (first gutting). Look also at the price of the car and compared to similar models selling in other countries. e.g. for my car A3 sedan in UK is selling about S$40K instead of $48K here (second gutting)

 

 

 

 

On an upbeat note, after being gutted everyone should rejoice after collecting the car. It is a definitely hard earned sweat and blood possession.

[zerobim08]

  On 4/20/2015 at 9:33 AM, Damien22 said:

 

I am not sure about that. However the 1.4L 125bhp version is meant for frugality, not for power. Probably also for local market to keep it within Cat A. However, if you do MTM stage 1 tuning, you can get the additional power out of it. However, I think the 125bhp is necessary for daily driving. Definitely not sluggish.

 

For me the current A3 setup at 125hp/200Nm is more than sufficient driving around in Singapore. It is snappy at the traffic lights and overtaking. And to me it is so frugal to the point of unbelievable. Hopefully, this will prolong the clutch/engine from wearing out.