7hm Turbocharged May 28, 2015 Share May 28, 2015 (edited) The Mondeo I think has better cabin noise insulation, noticeable when getting in and out of the test mule at Ford's front door. It's also huge, inside and out. An awful lot of car, metalwork and safety items, for the money. As usual, not offering free SatNav due to "licensing rules" was something I considered, when others had it or could give FoC. Referring to the Mondeo's satnav? I'm puzzled about it myself; the units in other countries have it standard with SYNC2 (which is not necessarily standard) and the compass is active and working. This leads me to speculate our Mondeos are actually equipped with satnav units or at least ready to accept a module. I did inquire about this and was told that it has to do with the size of our market. I think SYNC2 hasn't even got maps for our country to begin with, likely due to the fact that Ford is a minority here. Maybe if they sell enough cars it'll become available at some point or the maps can just be loaded in. The other option I was offered is a $500 MirrorLink module which allows access to compatible smartphones so you can display Maps on the SYNC2 screen. The Q50 has satnav included, right? Edited May 28, 2015 by 7hm ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchchic Clutched May 28, 2015 Share May 28, 2015 since global production cost for cars have been arbitraged by almost all major manufacturers incluing outsorcing of key components (eg: gearbox), one way to judge value is to look at the OMV. The Mondeo certianly has more value compared to the 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsswan 6th Gear May 28, 2015 Share May 28, 2015 The Q50 has satnav included, right? Also not as standard, but they can load the "Eurostyle" system developed locally for $1500. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 since global production cost for cars have been arbitraged by almost all major manufacturers incluing outsorcing of key components (eg: gearbox), one way to judge value is to look at the OMV. The Mondeo certianly has more value compared to the 6. To judge value by OMV will only work for cars manufactured using the same currency and around the same time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 To judge value by OMV will only work for cars manufactured using the same currency and around the same time well, OMV is the easiest way to get an idea of how much money your dealer is making from the sale... a car with a high OMV also tends to depreciate slower If two cars are being sold to me at the same price, I would probably choose the one with higher OMV if its equipment is accordingly higher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_123 1st Gear June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 (edited) To be honest..both cars do not have great resale value.... I agree that for the same price, a car with higher OMV is better for very obvious reasons. The biggest issue i have with ford is that when it breaks down, getting replacement parts can sometimes be difficult. Even without considering the costs, the downtime can be quite significant as compared to a Japanese car. Not being biased here, i do think that DOWNTIME and maintenance costs is an important factor and based on my experience, I think Mazda has the edge over this. Btw, i am driving a Ford Focus hatchback currently. The downtime is quite terrible unless you go back to Regent Motors which will cost a bomb!! Trust me Edited June 18, 2015 by King_123 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 (edited) The biggest issue i have with ford is that when it breaks down, getting replacement parts can sometimes be difficult. Even without considering the costs, the downtime can be quite significant as compared to a Japanese car. there ARE Ford stockists and even if they don't have the parts in stock, in this internet era, can always DIY order from overseas websites and airfreight it. i found Regent's repair/servicing cost quite ok, and not necessary much higher than Japanese ADs... Edited June 18, 2015 by Eyke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 (edited) To be honest..both cars do not have great resale value.... I agree that for the same price, a car with higher OMV is better for very obvious reasons. The biggest issue i have with ford is that when it breaks down, getting replacement parts can sometimes be difficult. Even without considering the costs, the downtime can be quite significant as compared to a Japanese car. Not being biased here, i do think that DOWNTIME and maintenance costs is an important factor and based on my experience, I think Mazda has the edge over this. Btw, i am driving a Ford Focus hatchback currently. The downtime is quite terrible unless you go back to Regent Motors which will cost a bomb!! Trust me Mazda's servicing costs are similar given what I'm reading in MZ3 thread in J-talk. $400 for a routine servicing under warranty?! Seems to be a consensus that Ford's parts are more expensive than Japanese, but compared to other contis, Audi is so common but even then an Audi servicing probably even more expensive than one at Regent?! You says cost "a bomb"... can you give more exact ballpark for a routine servicing?? $400? $500? $600? $1,000??? As for downtime, I got no say, but some have pointed out that Regent & AUTOFRANCE (Peugeot) have partnership with Hertz rental for a quick replacement car if you have a expected downtime. But it's not a free courtesy car unfortunately imo I guess it depends on how common Ford will become. Last time Laser/323 everywhere, got lots of parts. Now I can't find those easily. Seems like they are making conscious effort to market themselves to the masses again so who knows. Edited June 18, 2015 by 7hm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_123 1st Gear June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 (edited) there ARE Ford stockists and even if they don't have the parts in stock, in this internet era, can always DIY order from overseas websites and airfreight it. i found Regent's repair/servicing cost quite ok, and not necessary much higher than Japanese ADs... ________________________________________________________________________________________ Unfortunately I am those kind that are not very into cars so much so as to search for stockist and bring the parts in......you could be right on this. For me, I experienced 2 road failures in the last 6 months. First was a gear cable issue. I had to call the tow truck in and I guess I didn't have the time to search for parts from stockist because it was a working day. My car was towed into regent motors and I was charged about 4X from an outside workshop I subsequently checked with later. Only diff is ..regent fix it on the same day while that workshop can only do it in 2-3 days Second was a oil pump failure. This time, I called Regent to check first. 1.6K SGD. I decided to go to an outside workshop and was quoted 860SGD. Again the down time was 2 days at the outside workshop. These are my personal experiences with my Ford focus. Have to admit though that I am not an extremely car savvy car...maybe I am missing many things Edited June 19, 2015 by King_123 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 (edited) Thats what i was told also.. incl ws outside. When buy mazda, price tag similar to toyota honda. But parts cost a fair bit more. Though not as much as conti. Was also told that in recent years same applies for nissan. Hence though niss looks value for $, but parts cost more. But maz still tops the list. Edited June 19, 2015 by Baal 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 there ARE Ford stockists and even if they don't have the parts in stock, in this internet era, can always DIY order from overseas websites and airfreight it. i found Regent's repair/servicing cost quite ok, and not necessary much higher than Japanese ADs... Air freight in still have to wait right. That's one major issue for me. Pay more and wait more. For bread and butter cars it's always a no no for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porche 5th Gear June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 Mazda 6 any time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 Mazda 6 any time. Same here,the only thing i like about the Mondeo is it's turbocharged engine & it's gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porche 5th Gear June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 Same here,the only thing i like about the Mondeo is it's turbocharged engine & it's gearbox. Reliability is more important, but the interior of mondeo doesnt appeal to me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny7 1st Gear July 17, 2015 Share July 17, 2015 Personally I would go for mondeo after test driving both. More comfy, powerful and quieter than a 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic July 17, 2015 Share July 17, 2015 a take on why 6 and mondeo differs so little despite the great difference in torque and horses. a 100km/h is not a good yardstick to judge but from a 40 0r even 80 km/h speed, the pull away feel is very different and give you confidence in doing so. i know cos i really need to double think first as compared to what i used to worry less...turbo rocks!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrtstriker 1st Gear July 17, 2015 Share July 17, 2015 a take on why 6 and mondeo differs so little despite the great difference in torque and horses. a 100km/h is not a good yardstick to judge but from a 40 0r even 80 km/h speed, the pull away feel is very different and give you confidence in doing so. i know cos i really need to double think first as compared to what i used to worry less...turbo rocks!!!!!! Ha ha bro, you remind me of a friend who ever told me - "I don't mind the hassle on getting the turbo charge in shape (not as reliable as NA engines) but I love the rush when I need it, especially in Singapore where so many cars around... I am not a sedentary driver" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbt001 1st Gear July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 (edited) Here is a projected cost price for both cars if the COE falls to $50,000. Mondeo Mazda6 2.5 Premium OMV 27633 23000 ARF 30686.2 24200 RF 140 140 Excise 5526.6 4600 CEV 5000 0 GST 2321.17 1932 COE 50000 50000 RoadTax 6 mth 606 893 Total 121912.97 104765 These excludes other things like licence plates, freebies, free servicing etc. Edited July 18, 2015 by Tbt001 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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