Toyota Rush SFB 8288 C Kuailan Driver Destroys Bicycle

[Fcw75]

That's some crazy cyclists!

[inlinesix]

Just saw this over at HWZ:

compilation for reckless cyclist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx8YlZXEu2w&t=56

 

 

 

 

Honestly, electric bicycle is more dangerous as LTA usually don't catch illegal electric bicycle.

 

Legal bicycle = < 20km/h

 

Illegal bicycle = > 20km/h

[Nzy]

Just saw this over at HWZ:

compilation for reckless cyclist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx8YlZXEu2w&t=56

 

 

 

 

Everyone keeps talking about cyclists wearing leotards but then in this compilation only 1 out of the 10 shown was in leotard. The rest were just normal commuters.

[Leinad8919]

Yes. That was some reckless cyclists on commuters' bikes. Not so much on those branded "Lycra idiots" here. But I also see some impatient drivers namely the PA bus driver & the SJX Honda at the end of video.

 

For those righteous brothers out there who think that you want to educate or teach errant cyclists a lesson by moving in closing on them, one wrong move & an impatient action can cause someone's life. Maybe his time is up & you are just "helping" to fulfill it. Your own life may be ruined as well if you are charged with negligence driving.

 

http://youtu.be/X5fjvhJUQ_s

 

Please drive with care & consideration. You just need to get pass the slow cyclist in 30second at most & you probably won't see or encounter him again in your life. All we need is a little patience.

 

[1fast1]

 

I do that especially at night.

 

My logic is simple. I assumed drivers at night has cocked eyes & unable to see my blinking red light. To prevent car running me over, it is safer to stand in front of another non-2 wheel vehicles.

Your logic is like no logic liddat. What's to stop the leading car from being the most cock eyed and launching into your ass? At least the second car will wait for the first car to start moving before accelerating, giving you some time to play with.

[Detach8]

FYI -- if there's a PCN, cyclists are to use the PCN and are not allowed on the roads.

 

Honestly, electric bicycle is more dangerous as LTA usually don't catch illegal electric bicycle.

 

Legal bicycle = < 20km/h

 

Illegal bicycle = > 20km/h

 

What toking u... Most racer bikes will easily do above 20kph, and most bikes being ridden ON the road do go above that speed (except for those uncle aunty carrying cardboard boxes)

[Kusje]

Your logic is like no logic liddat. What's to stop the leading car from being the most cock eyed and launching into your ass? At least the second car will wait for the first car to start moving before accelerating, giving you some time to play with.

At least he is in front of the queue!

[Nzy]

Your logic is like no logic liddat. What's to stop the leading car from being the most cock eyed and launching into your ass? At least the second car will wait for the first car to start moving before accelerating, giving you some time to play with.

 

If a bicycle stops between two cars, and the car behind surges forward for whatever reasons, the cyclist will be crushed between both cars. Even at low speeds, the weight of the cars are enough to cause serious injury or death.

 

If the bicycle is infront of the first car, and the first car surges forwards , there is less chance that the cyclist will be crushed. Of course its possible for the cyclist to get run over by the car but then most cars don't accelerate that fast even if the driver floors the accelerator pedal so the cyclist might get hit but should have more time to react.

 

There must be a reason why some countries paint a box for cyclists to stop in front of all the cars at traffic junctions.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Nzy

[Detach8]

Don't say those on the road. Recently just being a pedestrian on the pavement is a safety hazard. Cyclists zoom past me in crowded places, ring their bells and expect us to have bruce-lee reflexes to siam and give way. Got once almost bang into my pregnant wife. I tell you if any of them hit my wife, I swear I will bash the mutherfarker up.

 

I have no problems with bikes and skate scooters sharing the pedestrian. I am a cyclist too, and when I see a crowd, I slow down and wait for people to pass. I wonder what the f**k is so difficult to slow down and wait? When there's a space for you to move again, you will be easily ahead of all the crowd.

 

Sometimes I just want to kick those cyclists so they fall off.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Detach8

[Nzy]

FYI -- if there's a PCN, cyclists are to use the PCN and are not allowed on the roads.

 

What toking u... Most racer bikes will easily do above 20kph, and most bikes being ridden ON the road do go above that speed (except for those uncle aunty carrying cardboard boxes)

 

FYI all the PCNs are shared paths. Not exclusive to bicycles.

 

He's talking about the electric bikes. Those that can go above 20kph are the illegal ones not approved by LTA. Those approved ones can't go faster than 20kph on electric power.

[Leinad8919]

FYI -- if there's a PCN, cyclists are to use the PCN and are not allowed on the roads.

 

 

What toking u... Most racer bikes will easily do above 20kph, and most bikes being ridden ON the road do go above that speed (except for those uncle aunty carrying cardboard boxes)

Bro. Since you know the speed of racing bikes, why do you suggest them going onto PCN where the limitation is 15km/hr & higher chance getting into accident with park goers & children?

 

https://otterman.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/no-speeding-cyclists-and-no-motorised-vehicles-banner-campaign-in-pcns/

 

......and FYI, there's no info that if there's a PCN, cyclists are to use the PCN and are not allowed on the roads. Think that's just your personal opinion.

[1fast1]

 

If a bicycle stops between two cars, and the car behind surges forward for whatever reasons, the cyclist will be crushed between both cars. Even at low speeds, the weight of the cars are enough to cause serious injury or death.

 

If the bicycle is infront of the first car, and the first car surges forwards , there is less chance that the cyclist will be crushed. Of course its possible for the cyclist to get run over by the car but then most cars don't accelerate that fast even if the driver floors the accelerator pedal so the cyclist might get hit but should have more time to react.

 

There must be a reason why some countries paint a box for cyclists to stop in front of all the cars at traffic junctions.

 

I think it's less likely the second and subsequent cars will "surge forward" before the lead car starts off. No one wants to rear end the car in front, so even if the cyclist is missed, there's a safety interval for the cyclist to follow. Remember that as lower inertia vehicles, the cyclist is capable of more quickly getting moving than the following car.

 

The times when a following car surges forward are when there's true human error (like when the driver's foot slips off the brake onto the accelerator). In which case, there would be a fender bender without the cyclist and a real tragedy with one caught in the middle.

 

But true human error can affect any car, including the lead car. And you're right that *most* cars don't accelerate that quickly, but quite a lot of modern cars do. Taking my car just for instance (knocking severely on wood!), the hypothetical poor cyclist in front of me wouldn't stand a chance in the case of unintended catastrophic WOT acceleration. Of course, I would *never* do that intentionally - but accidents can happen to anyone (e.g. a sudden heart attack or stroke).

 

To sum up, I can understand your rationale - with the caveats mentioned. But cyclists should just avoid the issue completely - by NOT cycling on major roads in poor visibility conditions (e.g. at night)! And in the daytime, in great visibility, they can cycle by all means, but please queue up in an orderly fashion. In good visibility, it would take an *exceptionally* visually impaired driver to mow down a cyclist at a light.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Turboflat4

[Leinad8919]

Don't say those on the road. Recently just being a pedestrian on the pavement is a safety hazard. Cyclists zoom past me in crowded places, ring their bells and expect us to have bruce-lee reflexes to siam and give way. Got once almost bang into my pregnant wife. I tell you if any of them hit my wife, I swear I will bash the mutherfarker up.

 

I have no problems with bikes and skate scooters sharing the pedestrian. I am a cyclist too, and when I see a crowd, I slow down and wait for people to pass. I wonder what the f**k is so difficult to slow down and wait? When there's a space for you to move again, you will be easily ahead of all the crowd.

 

Sometimes I just want to kick those cyclists so they fall off.

Bro. You don't want cyclists on the road & you want to kick cyclists on the pavement. PCN also got speed limitation. Where do you want them?

 

Just to quote what you are saying....if you are a driver yourself, what is it so difficult to slow down and wait for the cyclists? When there's a space for you to move again, you will be easily ahead of all the cyclists.

 

[Darryn]

The most basic of things you do as a cyclist when at the lights is to position yourself where the driver can and WILL see you.

 

You stop in such a way that they can't help but notice you.

 

For Me, that means I put the bike directly infront of his hood ornament -

 

Naturally the converse of this is that once the light turns green - you get out of his way as quickly as is practicable and safe.

 

IF (and it's a big if) I cause a short moment of inconvenience - then I will "feel" for you - but sorry, too bad.

 

Just think of it this way - perhaps you get blocked for 20 or 30 seconds by the cyclist because he is slow or whatever - but how much longer would you have been stopped for had you hit him?

 

It doesn't give a cyclist carte blanche, but do remember they are extremely vulnerable - cut them a bit of slack -

 

Even if they are arseholes - it is your behaviour and emotions you can control, if you try to "teach them a lesson" the outcome is never going to be good, and you will never get the results you want, ultimately you'll just make the roads more dangerous.

[Nzy]

 

I think it's less likely the second and subsequent cars will "surge forward" before the lead car starts off. No one wants to rear end the car in front, so even if the cyclist is missed, there's a safety interval for the cyclist to follow. Remember that as lower inertia vehicles, the cyclist is capable of more quickly getting moving than the following car.

 

The times when a following car surges forward are when there's true human error (like when the driver's foot slips off the brake onto the accelerator). In which case, there would be a fender bender without the cyclist and a real tragedy with one caught in the middle.

 

But true human error can affect any car, including the lead car. And you're right that *most* cars don't accelerate that quickly, but quite a lot of modern cars do. Taking my car just for instance (knocking severely on wood!), the poor cyclist in front of me wouldn't stand a chance in the case of unintended catastrophic WOT acceleration. But of course, I would *never* do that intentionally - but accidents can happen to anyone (e.g. a sudden heart attack or stroke).

 

To sum up, I can understand your rationale - with the caveats mentioned. But cyclists should just avoid the issue completely - by NOT cycling on major roads in poor visibility conditions (e.g. at night)! And in the daytime, in great visibility, they can cycle by all means, but please queue up in an orderly fashion. In good visibility, it would take an *exceptionally* visually impaired driver to mow down a cyclist at a light.

 

I was talking about in case of human error where the persons foot slips. When I go all the way to the front, the reason is not that I am worried about this kind of human error. I am more worried about being rear ended by a car that never notice that traffic has stopped thats why I go all the way to the front.

 

If I am not able to get all the way infront because there is no space, then I'll stop further to the side so that I am not directly behind the front car. However, if possible, I prefer to go all the way infront because based on my experience, when I stop closer to the side, the car behind will squeeze beside me at the traffic junction and come very close to me and I will have no space to move off.

[Darryn]

Eh...everyone can shaddup or not? I am preparing for tomorrow's meeting (Won back an old client.... YAY!!)

 

You all are distracting me...

 

Anyway quickly did this up for the people that are horny towards cyclists...

 

Take a moment and think about the outcomes that can be expected...

 

[1fast1]

The most basic of things you do as a cyclist when at the lights is to position yourself where the driver can and WILL see you.

 

You stop in such a way that they can't help but notice you.

 

For Me, that means I put the bike directly infront of his hood ornament -

I'd be interested to know if you follow this with heavy vehicles as well.

 

Naturally the converse of this is that once the light turns green - you get out of his way as quickly as is practicable and safe.

 

IF (and it's a big if) I cause a short moment of inconvenience - then I will "feel" for you - but sorry, too bad.

 

Just think of it this way - perhaps you get blocked for 20 or 30 seconds by the cyclist because he is slow or whatever - but how much longer would you have been stopped for had you hit him?

 

It doesn't give a cyclist carte blanche, but do remember they are extremely vulnerable - cut them a bit of slack -

 

Even if they are arseholes - it is your behaviour and emotions you can control, if you try to "teach them a lesson" the outcome is never going to be good, and you will never get the results you want, ultimately you'll just make the roads more dangerous.

I agree that trying to teach anyone a lesson is beyond the pale. But to be frank, I think many cyclists out there are trying to teach drivers some sort of lesson by purposefully (and almost gleefully) blocking them when there's an alternative. Some of them do have a serious superiority complex based on how their chosen mode of transport is environmentally friendly, etc. etc. Not all, but quite a lot of the lycra brigade think in this supercilious mode.

 

And while I fully agree with drivers exercising self-restraint in the face of cyclist provocation, I think it's high time that more cyclists acquired that massively under-rated thing: a sense of self-preservation. Really, they should stop trying to bait heavier vehicles. I'm not talking about your "innocent" lining up in front of a car for safety - I'm talking about the thoroughly arsehole-ish behaviour of some cyclists purposely taunting cars by blocking them and even throwing their bikes across the bonnets of cars they've deemed to have offended their smug sensibilities. Now, most drivers (especially in Singapore) will not react. But a very small minority WILL. And when that happens, the car driver will likely go to jail, but the cyclist will just be a smear of blood and meat on the tarmac. So please, preach self-preservation and patience to your cycling brethren as well. For everyone's sakes.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Turboflat4

[Leinad8919]

Now I am surprised pillions are allowed on electric bikes 😳