Kyrios Turbocharged February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 got rumour saying some people might pass on, and GE will be held swiftly in Q2 this year, not sure zhun or not That's got to be really pathetic...relying on people's love for a particular person to earn votes...they got to learn from India..there Gandhi's own party got kicked out after Gandhi's descendants failed to live up to standards... ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 That's got to be really pathetic...relying on people's love for a particular person to earn votes...they got to learn from India..there Gandhi's own party got kicked out after Gandhi's descendants failed to live up to standards... Only same last name... They are his descendants.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 That's a very good point. I have been monitoring used car prices... I only can say .. I hope these used car dealers can sleep peacefully at night... Those used car dealers have no problem sleeping peacefully at night. Because it's willing seller willing buyer case, they didn't point gun on your head or put a knife on your throat to get you to buy. If only the loan for 2nd hand cars are tied to the paper value, then the 2nd hand cars market will not be so crazy. Of course if the 2nd hand cars cannot be sell at a high price, the COE price will also drop with the 40 / 50 % down payments requirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 Those used car dealers have no problem sleeping peacefully at night. Because it's willing seller willing buyer case, they didn't point gun on your head or put a knife on your throat to get you to buy. If only the loan for 2nd hand cars are tied to the paper value, then the 2nd hand cars market will not be so crazy. Of course if the 2nd hand cars cannot be sell at a high price, the COE price will also drop with the 40 / 50 % down payments requirements. I agree. Those 2nd hand car dealers who cheat on mileage and make up stories on the car's condition should be worried at night. But those who just mark up and sell without any embellishment should be able to sleep peacefully at night. Even if their mark up is high, it is all willing buyer, willing seller. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 This is confirmed one. ZhenHu will not upset voter with adverse announcement before GE. Question is when GE will be ? Ppl say it is likely Q4 2015 (after NDP). With past 2 days of newspaper report on public transport vs car, it seem that they are staging something. Just hope the clawback wont happen earlier .. If I was fighting the election, I will fight early and take the opposition by suprise before they can react and prepare. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesh26 1st Gear March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 Either you renew COE or buy brand new. Avoid 2nd hand. Assume you drive a bread and butter 1600ccc Jap car Renew COE = $60,000 + $7,000 scrap value = $67,000 = $6,700 annual dep Buy used = 7 year old Altis, Mazda 3, Lancer = average annual dep is $11,000 (excl repair costs) Buy new = Altis, Sylphy = $100,000 - Scrap $7,000 = $9,300 annual dep Agree on renewing COE if your car is in reasonably good condition, though the scrap value if likely to be closer to $10,000 including body. My experience in buying used car is to go for 8-9 year old ones where you have a better chance of getting the price down to an annual depreciation of $7,000 to 8,000. There are many cars in this age group which are well-maintained with some even having their major parts replaced (eg. timing belt, transmission etc). Buying a new car is just too long a commitment, knowing the annual depreciation has a 10-year time horizon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_nice 6th Gear March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 Agree on renewing COE if your car is in reasonably good condition, though the scrap value if likely to be closer to $10,000 including body. My experience in buying used car is to go for 8-9 year old ones where you have a better chance of getting the price down to an annual depreciation of $7,000 to 8,000. There are many cars in this age group which are well-maintained with some even having their major parts replaced (eg. timing belt, transmission etc). Buying a new car is just too long a commitment, knowing the annual depreciation has a 10-year time horizon. I think doesn't apply to most in mcf cuz they pay full cash lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesh26 1st Gear March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 I think doesn't apply to most in mcf cuz they pay full cash lol Do you mean being unable to get the price down when paying full cash buying a used car? I do that too and get the dealer not to quibble on the amount if not taking a loan of price less than $30,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_nice 6th Gear March 2, 2015 Share March 2, 2015 Do you mean being unable to get the price down when paying full cash buying a used car? I do that too and get the dealer not to quibble on the amount if not taking a loan of price less than $30,000. Oh no bro, I mean most folks in mcf paid full cash be it for brand new cars, used cars and maybe even property. So dun think a 10 yr horizon depreciation applies to most of them. But I poor man son lah. Both my cars got take loan. The only thing I paid full cash recently was the chai png and kopi o I had this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ongkmeng 2nd Gear March 4, 2015 Share March 4, 2015 If I was fighting the election, I will fight early and take the opposition by suprise before they can react and prepare. No need to prepare much for both Lightning and Hammer. They just need to get the voters excited to win their votes. Just give me a cheap COE, I will be very happy liao. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 4, 2015 Share March 4, 2015 No need to prepare much for both Lightning and Hammer. They just need to get the voters excited to win their votes. Just give me a cheap COE, I will be very happy liao. That's a very good idea. If it was me just before the election increase the supply of COEs and let the price drop. Then after win the election close the tap and let COE go to 100k. Repeat every 5 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ongkmeng 2nd Gear March 4, 2015 Share March 4, 2015 (edited) That's a very good idea. If it was me just before the election increase the supply of COEs and let the price drop. Then after win the election close the tap and let COE go to 100k. Repeat every 5 years. Dont be surprised that your prediction may happen. You can see the recent reports in paper & Minister of Txport are already hinting a clawback of COE for the famine period, reducing car population, making driving expensive. But now Lightning can't strike yet, otherwise they may strike away some constituency or GRC. They will not rock the boat when they are together in it. Once it reaches the shore (e.g. election over), all colours, patterns & stunt can show off. We kow pei also no use then. Edited March 4, 2015 by Ongkmeng 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyngps 5th Gear March 4, 2015 Share March 4, 2015 With the demand so huge, with so many people waiting, how much can coe decrease? It may be just that one time off decrease and perhaps those who benefit will be those who already book the rides with rebate level? Then the next round while many will rush to buy the new cars since prices are down but they may not get the rides delivered without topping up since demand will be overwhelming. If coe crash to 2005-2010 period, mas regulations will not work anymore unless garment now step in and say 100% upfront. Then banks will kpkb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic March 4, 2015 Share March 4, 2015 many would say price would drop due to more car deregister and more coe. but it also mean more car buyer entering the market. bottom line....its all about demand and supply. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo2020 6th Gear March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 many would say price would drop due to more car deregister and more coe. but it also mean more car buyer entering the market. bottom line....its all about demand and supply. not all buyers r having the same buying power. this is the unknown figures that ppl r hoping to b big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp66 5th Gear March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 not now, my ride still have 3 years to go. but recently have the thought should I renew if it stay at this level for next 3 years. my comfort level is below $60k. Anyone renewed or renwing with PQP now around $70kk .?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nissan833 5th Gear March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 Oh no bro, I mean most folks in mcf paid full cash be it for brand new cars, used cars and maybe even property. So dun think a 10 yr horizon depreciation applies to most of them. But I poor man son lah. Both my cars got take loan. The only thing I paid full cash recently was the chai png and kopi o I had this morning Pay full cash also have depreciation leh.. Today I buy Ya kun, auntie ask me use what to pay, I say pay cash lor because I frequent MCF, scare people laugh at me never pay cash. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte3737 5th Gear March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 Quote from you "There are many cars in this age group which are well-maintained with some even having their major parts replaced " I woild say its rare Agree on renewing COE if your car is in reasonably good condition, though the scrap value if likely to be closer to $10,000 including body. My experience in buying used car is to go for 8-9 year old ones where you have a better chance of getting the price down to an annual depreciation of $7,000 to 8,000. There are many cars in this age group which are well-maintained with some even having their major parts replaced (eg. timing belt, transmission etc). Buying a new car is just too long a commitment, knowing the annual depreciation has a 10-year time horizon. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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