Nissan Qashqai vs Honda Vezel, which is better?

[7hm]

Hi, Are these cars real SUV? Are they capable of going off road and rugged terrain? Any videos or can anyone verify on this? Or these cars 're for show and purely marketing only since "suv" appears to be a trend now.

 

As with any normal car they are capable of light offroading such as flat dirt paths.

 

However they will handle the slightly rough terrain better than a normal car due to raised ride height.

 

 

However due to more road-focused suspension tuning and usually lacking all-wheel-drive they will never be as good as a real SUV.

Like say on a scale of 1~10...

 

A 4WD Lamborghini is probably still 1.5...

A normal sedan is 3.5, a urban SUV like Vezel/Qashqai are like 5~6... whereas a Subaru Outback or Land Rover Discovery are 9~10

[Blackyv]

Hi, Are these cars real SUV? Are they capable of going off road and rugged terrain? Any videos or can anyone verify on this? Or these cars 're for show and purely marketing only since "suv" appears to be a trend now.

If I wanna buy a 'real' suv, x-trail is top on my list..

 

[FinalNitro]

Hi, Are these cars real SUV? Are they capable of going off road and rugged terrain? Any videos or can anyone verify on this? Or these cars 're for show and purely marketing only since "suv" appears to be a trend now.

 

These cars are known as "crossovers". Not really SUV nor MPV. Mix of both. Current trend.

[Akszaksz]

I have my reservations on the long term reliability of a small capacity turbo engine sitting in a big body car whereby the capacity of the naturally aspirated engine is at least 1800cc to 2000cc.

 

Other examples include the VW Passat, Chevy Orlando, Ford Kuga.

 

The engine is dependent on the turbo to move the car. What are the long term implications and sustainability of steroids?

 

seconded that...

[summeralive]

 

Wish you can tell this to my wife cos she says I always go look at cars and end up not buying but I told her must do homework as it's big ticket item. She says it's not enjoyable and only call her if I have decided!!

My wife says the samething too. Haaa

[summeralive]

Hi folks,

 

I have no intention to buy both the Vezel(HR-V) or the Qashqai, but I have the honor to testdrive both of these "City SUVs" today and would like to offer my humble, non-biased and truthful opinions on this two car.

 

What caught me is the popularity of the Vezel. I want to see why this car is so popular and what the fuss is about. Then I past by Nissan showroom and remember my colleague talking about the Qasqhai, and of course this thread. So I thought WTH test-drive the QQ too.

 

To be fair, Vezel offers no test-drive, I can only based my opinion on the HRV, which I know has slightly different trims and most importantly the SOHC engine vs DOHC engine. I would presumed the Twin-cam engine is more powerful with a higher torque but that's all on paper.

Here are my comparison between the HR-V and Qasqhai

 

 

Looks

Looks are always subjective. If you ask me, I still prefer the conventional headlamps and grille look. To me, I find fault for both cars.

 

The front of QQ try to look sleek yet preserve a certain conservative look. Ok with me, the side and rear still looks updated and sleek, but it won't stand out the crowd for too long. The color options of the QQ also wins due to it's younger looking colors.

 

The HR-V is bolder with all the streamlining in it's front clusters, but that fail to appeal me. The redeeming factor is the side profile and the rear door handles that gives it a sporty stance. The rear is not too bad, but the QQ isn't far off either.

Verdict: HR-V wins slightly in this.

 

 

 

Interior

The QQ gives the feeling of classiness and luxury. The chrome and gloss trims makes the car stand out. Coupled with relaxing seats that gave the cabin a cozy and soothing feel. The buttons are where in should be and the compartments aplenty. I'd say the comfort level is on par with the some continental cars. Go inside the QQ will make the passengers want to sleep and dream away.

 

The HRV has an industrious feel to it. All form of comfort trims are missing and the dashboard give a feeling that it's designed by two person with creative difference. The Jazz is like that, the Steam is like that, the HRV is no different. It's a mess if you ask me! The only redeeming factors are the display panels with touchscreen functions and the unique Meters with LED ring to indicate of your driving pattern. But still, they look like a last minute fit-in designed by drunken designers.

 

Verdict: QQ with flying colors even though HR-V feels more hi-tech.

 

 

Engine

I'm not sure about the difference in performance for the Vezel and HRV, but I cannot understand people saying the QQ being underpowered. Specs on paper is 1 thing, it's only when you tested both then you will know who is lying.

 

Is QQ's 1.2 Turbo underpowered? Speaking from someone driving a 1.5 Turbo hatch, it's neither underpowered or powerful. It's adequate for city driving and filtering of lane. The initial moving off has a bit of delay but if you push the car hard enough, it won't disappoint. There is no "Turbo kick" parse but being turbo, it was able to moving the car fairly fast and without the feeling of the engine going out of breathe, all the way to higher speed. This is the feeling of the torque curve that is only possible with a Turbo engine. The engine works really well with the CVT. The best of Nissan's comfort is felt when the rev engine's noise is kept minimum at bay. This id a quiet and smooth ride.

 

HRV's engine is tuned to be specifically sensitive to the pedal. This give the vehicle a responsive feel that the car is quick to react when you driving out of the parking lot or from the traffic light at 0km/h. But don't mistake responsiveness as being more powerful. It is only at mid speeds when you floor the pedal, that you know the potential of the engine and transmission. The HRV failed in this aspect. The power failed to deliver to the transmission efficiently. All I hear is a louder exhaust sound, but the car is not moving any faster than it should be.

 

Verdict: QQ with the consistent torque curve of a Turbo engine.

 

 

 

Handling

Both SUV's handling are very close, both steering are light and both height are quite similar.

 

Suspension of the QQ is more stiff. While it may aid in the stability of vehicle at higher speeds, the bumps can be felt significantly. This is a bit of a letdown in terms of comfort for long journeys. It's fun in the corners, only to be marred slightly by the uninteresting steering feel.

The HR-V has less bump in this aspect, handling of the car is equally uninteresting but slight more engaging.

 

Verdict: Both are equally adequate for city driving. QQ could do away with the bumps.

 

 

 

Other nitpick

Equipment = QQ

Price = QQ (Vezel is cheaper)

Make = QQ Japan, HRV Thailand, Vezel Japan

maintenance = QQ due to road tax. Insurance and FC should be about the same.

Warrranty = KM, TC, PI

 

My Choice

I already said I'm not buying these 2 car, but if you ask me, I'm more Swayed to the QQ.

 

For those who compare quality of Honda and Nissan. Please! As long as it's Japanese brand, even a Suzuki has less problem than a European car.

For those who say Turbo is less reliable, if you dunno anything about turbo just shut up. High maintenance turbo engines are yesterday's problem. If my 7yrs performance-oriented Turbo has no problem, I don't see why an efficiency-oriented Turbo will have problems.

There's my most humble and non-biased opinion about these 2 cars.

Thumbs up. Very useful detail there.

 

Am also struggling to choose between these 2.

[Derricklah]

Best don't drive no headache of which ride to choose. Keep more money in your pocket. No choice go for the cheaper as both their pros and cons.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Derricklah

[QashqiGrey]

Some QQs are experiencing lost of power :(

[Imac]

hi Bro,

took my new Qashqai to Malacca, Malaysia.

fanstatic car, no regret,here are my ratings. Comfort, Performace,F/C score 5/5.

i can't imagine i am driving a 1.2 litres car. it meets al my expectation, fomerly driving Honda CL-7.

at speed of 120km/hour, no wind noise at all.

Nissan too gave a very attractive deals; unlimited mailage warranty, etc.

Bought from Sales Consultant, Ms Susan LIM, Tan Chong Sales at Bukit Timah branch,and she would assit you.

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Congrat bro...did your SE give any "special" ?

QQ is not good for tall people or anyone that is 1.75m and above......

 

I'm 1.8m and my head is hitting the rooftop

Bro, are you sitting to close the steering wheel?

 

Try tilting your back-rest abit backward.

[Donut]

Congrat bro...did your SE give any "special" ?

Bro, are you sitting to close the steering wheel?

 

Try tilting your back-rest abit backward.

 

nope, bro.

 

i already push the seat all the way to the back, to my normal driving position. the problem with Qashqai is the low height.

 

even at the back seat, which cannot be lowered. my head was hitting the damm roof.

 

In short, this car is meant for short people.

[archcherub]

hi guys!!

I have been using my Honda Vezel since Feb 2015.

its really quite good. i like the efficiency! the petrol consumption is very good... especially when u turn on eco mode.

 

the high seat driving is easier to drive around.

 

and the interior is so roomy.

 

exterior.. till today, i have people who tell me its very nice looking new car. i thought by now it would have been old and common since tons of vezels, so a bit surprised to keep hearing praises even today.

love the 2-doors looking concepts.

and love the overall expensive looking feel.

 

best of all, it is really easy and comfy to drive!

 

for those who are pondering to choose this car vs others... i say grab the honda vezel!! dont buy the HRV from the AD.. grab the vezel from PI (though i realy think most PI are dishonest people recently)

Vezel using much better technology than the HR-V

 

[jg2000]

QQ - Made in UK (not sure about the 1.2 Turbo).... PI Vezel Made in Japan and Kah Motor Made in Thailand ....

 

For me .... I go for the PI Vezel ... I am a Honda fan.

 

Your question above on where QQ engine come from - it is Renault engine (Nissan's sister company).

Hence, whole car is continental (it is also said that Nissan UK did a lot of the design for the car).

Depends on what is think is the reliability of made in UK/France plus CVT is JATCO (probably Japan).

 

[jg2000]

I was looking at Vezel and QQ also but

had dilemma in that wanted

- made in Japan SUV for quality reason

- at price range of Vezel/QQ due to budget

- with AD support in case of any recall/fixing of manufacturing problem (which seems very common nowadays as cars become very complicated with everything computerised, with sensors, electric/electronics plus some with additonal parts like turbos etc); also to avoid PI problems which also seems to have a few now and then

- car model out in market long enough that all the reliability bugs have been worked out (again, seems common nowadays that new cars have some bug or another in initial period)

 

QQ 1.2 Turbo very attractive but made in Europe (UK for assembly / France for engine)

Vezel also very attractive but to be within budget, need to get from PI

Also both recently launched for one year plus only and they (or their related products) seem to have teething problems

(e.g. new Honda Fit/Jazz recently had a recall for bearing problem - not sure if Vezel use same engine/transmission and affected by same issue; QQ 1.2 Turbo recent local introducation with local modification seems to end up with power loss problem)

 

In the end, settled for Subaru XV which seemed to meet my criteria and similar to QQ/Vezel type of SUV. 

 

But need to be willing to let go of certain things - e.g.Vezel type of acceleration; QQ European interior; Vezel space etc.

 

Have to console myself that XV is at least quite unique - hard to find on the roads - and the looks will likely do well over long time (looks sporty but not in fashion-of-the-day manner).  Also, have Audi Quattro-type handling around corners (even on wet roads on rainy days) due to Subaru All-wheel-drive plus boxer engine low CG.  Can also do off-road rallying (though will likely, never ever have chance to do such thing here).  

[dragonforce]

I was looking at Vezel and QQ also but

had dilemma in that wanted

- made in Japan SUV for quality reason

- at price range of Vezel/QQ due to budget

- with AD support in case of any recall/fixing of manufacturing problem (which seems very common nowadays as cars become very complicated with everything computerised, with sensors, electric/electronics plus some with additonal parts like turbos etc); also to avoid PI problems which also seems to have a few now and then

- car model out in market long enough that all the reliability bugs have been worked out (again, seems common nowadays that new cars have some bug or another in initial period)

 

QQ 1.2 Turbo very attractive but made in Europe (UK for assembly / France for engine)

Vezel also very attractive but to be within budget, need to get from PI

Also both recently launched for one year plus only and they (or their related products) seem to have teething problems

(e.g. new Honda Fit/Jazz recently had a recall for bearing problem - not sure if Vezel use same engine/transmission and affected by same issue; QQ 1.2 Turbo recent local introducation with local modification seems to end up with power loss problem)

 

In the end, settled for Subaru XV which seemed to meet my criteria and similar to QQ/Vezel type of SUV. 

 

But need to be willing to let go of certain things - e.g.Vezel type of acceleration; QQ European interior; Vezel space etc.

 

Have to console myself that XV is at least quite unique - hard to find on the roads - and the looks will likely do well over long time (looks sporty but not in fashion-of-the-day manner).  Also, have Audi Quattro-type handling around corners (even on wet roads on rainy days) due to Subaru All-wheel-drive plus boxer engine low CG.  Can also do off-road rallying (though will likely, never ever have chance to do such thing here).  

 

Subaru cars with their boxer engines tend to be very jiak yew  

[jg2000]

Subaru cars with their boxer engines tend to be very jiak yew

 

XV quite ok - 12-13 km/litre.  Not like the Subarus of old.

Due to new engine plus CVT developed for purpose of better fuel efficiency (Subaru and other manufacturers have no choice but to so such thingns due to US and other country regulations requiring car manufacturers to produce more fuel efficient vehicles).

Of course, when Subaru improves, other companies also improve so other cars may still be better than XV but if you can live with 12-13 km/l, then XV is ok for you.  This in exchange for heavier vehicle (1.4 tonnes) but which means more solid protection (e.g. doors are heavy due to additional steel protection inside).

Edited October 22, 2015 by jg2000

[Melvincyc]

Most Vezel are doing 14kml in real lifecondition.

 

12 to 13kml for XV is quite tough.

 

XV quite ok - 12-13 km/litre. Not like the Subarus of old.

Due to new engine plus CVT developed for purpose of better fuel efficiency (Subaru and other manufacturers have no choice but to so such thingns due to US and other country regulations requiring car manufacturers to produce more fuel efficient vehicles).

Of course, when Subaru improves, other companies also improve so other cars may still be better than XV but if you can live with 12-13 km/l, then XV is ok for you. This in exchange for heavier vehicle (1.4 tonnes) but which means more solid protection (e.g. doors are heavy due to additional steel protection inside).

[jg2000]

Most Vezel are doing 14kml in real lifecondition.

 

12 to 13kml for XV is quite tough.

 

 

You can take Sgarmar reviewer word then (rather than mine) that 12km/l is normal for XV

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=845&PN=3

"Despite being all-wheel drive ... the XV returned rather good fuel economy of 12km/L during our time with it"

 

Subaru tends to do less of the over-reporting of fuel economy that other car manufacturers do (Hyundai were fined for their very optimistic reporting in US a few years back and of course, VW now being accused of the same by US).  Most reviewers find that XV fuel economy is quite ok.

Edited November 24, 2015 by jg2000

[Melvincyc]

Maybe I am biased and skeptical. My last car is Subaru for 4 years....the fc sucks.

 

 

 

 

You can take Sgarmar reviewer word then (rather than mine) that 12km/l is normal for XV

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=845&PN=3

"Despite being all-wheel drive ... the XV returned rather good fuel economy of 12km/L during our time with it"

 

Subaru tends to do less of the over-reporting of fuel economy that other car manufacturers do (Hyundai were fined for their very optimistic reporting in US a few years back and of course, VW now being accused of the same by US). Most reviewers find that XV fuel economy is quite ok.