LPPL 6th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Interestingly, most people go blank when mention Subaru XV - no idea what car is that and how it looks like. So short video to show how it looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj0lEydN2s Nice vid. It is a tough decision between the non-turbo forester and XV. Why haven't you chosen the forester turbo? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_prince Supersonic May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Nice vid. It is a tough decision between the non-turbo forester and XV. Why haven't you chosen the forester turbo? actually XV looks quite nice. and pricing also decent. saw quite a few on the road. look like a mini outback actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mred1-2 4th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Vitara 1.6 will be a fair comparison to Subaru XV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg2000 4th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Nice vid. It is a tough decision between the non-turbo forester and XV. Why haven't you chosen the forester turbo? Why not Turbo Forester? - much more expensive than XV (but much cheaper than equivalent high-power turbo SUVs like BMWs and Audi's etc - esp. if you compare with those that come with all-wheel drive) Why not Non-turbo Forester? - CAT B much higher then (nowadays, close enough to consider). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_h_r_ 2nd Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Vezel Hybrid takes the crown 20km/L real world fuel economy, 0-100km/h in 8s, Honda reliability and excellent practicality Nothing comes close Vezel wan sui wan sui wan wan sui 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix0405 5th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 I agree with above. Also add in Mitsubishi ASX (when CAT B COE is low enough) and Suzuki S-Cross to round out the SUVs in this price range which coincidentally are all Jap brands. However, if want actually made in Japan, then only Vezel, Subaru XV and ASX. (QQ made in UK with French engine, S-Cross is Hungarian) If want authorised distributor car, then left with only XV and ASX. I personally drive XV and happy with the choice. ASX (2.0) is $103+K, cheaper & bigger than QQ and XV! , must check it out. Dunno that price is for 6 or 12 bids tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub123 Clutched May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 6 bids non guaranteed. Got almost all common features. Was offered 3 yrs free service incl parts and labour but not sure if still available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg2000 4th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 ASX (2.0) is $103+K, cheaper & bigger than QQ and XV! , must check it out. Dunno that price is for 6 or 12 bids tho. ASX bigger engine but internal space is about the same as QQ and XV (maybe smaller even in some places) XV price is not apple to apple compare as they usually only quote guaranteed price So if guaranteed to guaranteed, may end up similar. But for those who want bigger engine, agree that no brainer when compare these three in the same price range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQX87511 5th Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Vezel exterior nice and Engine powerful but noisy, Interior equipments wise QQ, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 (edited) Somehow I feel that automakers alliance to make cars are a sham. In this case the Renault-Nissan Alliance. They are rivals whether they like it or not. So to come together to make cars you think both parties will share their know how and expertise? Maybe share some lah. Some only. I can't remember when such auto alliance made a good car. BMW and PSA alliance got together to make the prince engine. It turn out to be a piece of crap. Edited May 12, 2016 by Watwheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Somehow I feel that automakers alliance to make cars are a sham. In this case the Renault-Nissan Alliance. They are rivals whether they like it or not. So to come together to make cars you think both parties will share their know how and expertise? Maybe share some lah. Some only. I can't remember when such auto alliance made a good car. BMW and PSA alliance got together to make the prince engine. It turn out to be a piece of crap. You miss out brz and 86... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQLM Neutral Newbie May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 (edited) Who can advise how much to sell for Nissan QashQai+2, registration June 2011? Tks Edited May 12, 2016 by QQLM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Power. From rumour to reality Nissan bought 34% stake in Mitsubishi Motors. http://www.motor1.com/news/62690/official-nissan-buying-34-stake-in-mitsubishi-motors-for-217-billion/ Japan's national public broadcasting organization, NHK, reported just yesterday that Nissan could acquire a 34-percent stake in Mitsubishi Motors and now we have official confirmation from the two car manufacturers. As part of the agreement, Nissan is buying 506.6 million shares in Mitsubishi Motors Corporation for 468.52 yen ($4.3) per share for a total of 237B yen ($2.17B). As a consequence, Nissan will become the biggest shareholder of MMC and will effectively take control of the troubled manufacturer. Why troubled? Because Mitsubishi is involved in a major scandal concerning faked fuel economy tests, but now with Nissan acting as the single-largest shareholder, Mitsu has more chances of bouncing back. The scandal has greatly affected MMC’s stock prices (down by 43% since April 19), so Nissan probably managed to ink a pretty sweet deal. Carlos Ghosn, chief executive and president of Nissan, described the transaction as a “win-win” situation and promised to “preserve and nourish” the Mitsubishi marque. His sentiments were echoed by Osamu Masuko, chairman of the board and chief executive of MMC: “This agreement will create long-term value needed for our two companies to progress towards the future.” Source: Mitsubishi, Nissan Nissan first punch hole in Mitsubishi's boat by exposing their FC figures and now help to bail it....the cheap way I suppose. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sglanevo 2nd Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Turbos are aiding engine combustion by recycling exhaust air and forcing it in the combustion chamber for a better combustion. The lower the RPM, the slower the flow of the exhaust air to the turbo charger, means you will experience low power boost, or commonly termed as "turbo lag". That explains why at low RPM's, turbo chargers are inefficient. But new technology nowadays a has recovery systems to minimize or eliminate turbo lags...Awesome explaination. For qashqai, test drived it before but not vezel. Pickup is good bcos of the high torque but u have to rev to 3-4rpm to achieve that. If i rem correctly. Heard frm owner that its underpower. Probably due to its weight too. Note the the engine is manufactured by Renault. SE told me that Nissan dnt develope turbo.engine for this size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sglanevo 2nd Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Another impt thing i would like to point out for the CEV rebate of the cars. If Im correct, do u knw that the 10k rebate for vezel is 50% being paid by u altough stated it reduce yr ARF value. ( e.g without cev, arf 20k. With cev, arf 10k. 5 yrs u sell. Without/cev u get back 50%@10k. With/cev u get back 50%@5k.) See the lose of 5k frm the parf u r getting back? So is it really a rebate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_h_r_ 2nd Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Another impt thing i would like to point out for the CEV rebate of the cars. If Im correct, do u knw that the 10k rebate for vezel is 50% being paid by u altough stated it reduce yr ARF value. ( e.g without cev, arf 20k. With cev, arf 10k. 5 yrs u sell. Without/cev u get back 50%@10k. With/cev u get back 50%@5k.) See the lose of 5k frm the parf u r getting back? So is it really a rebate? You get back the PARF only after you scrap, likely at the end of 10 years. $5K will probably be worth a lot less after 10 years. Vezel Hybrid takes the crown again. With PARF at $2.5K at the end of 10 years, you can renew COE and continue driving after 10 years and lose only $2.5K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 You get back the PARF only after you scrap, likely at the end of 10 years. $5K will probably be worth a lot less after 10 years. Vezel Hybrid takes the crown again. With PARF at $2.5K at the end of 10 years, you can renew COE and continue driving after 10 years and lose only $2.5K. before you renew a hybrid, do check out the cost of new batteries... dont get caught with pants down...hehehe.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_h_r_ 2nd Gear May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 before you renew a hybrid, do check out the cost of new batteries... dont get caught with pants down...hehehe.. Vezel Hybrid battery cost is $2K according to local stockist. Li-ion battery technology has progressed significantly. For example, your iphone uses its battery 24 hours a day at least 1-2 years without any issues. Your car is only driven an average of 1-2 hours every day. Come on lah, engine and transmission cost a lot more. Look at Volkswagen and Audi DSG, lots of problems that are very costly to fix also got so many buyers. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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