LPPL 6th Gear November 6, 2016 Share November 6, 2016 (edited) Have been seeing the word NA, what does that mean?NA=Naturally AspiratedA naturally aspirated engine is an internal combustion engine in which air intake depends solely on atmospheric pressure and which does not rely on forced induction through a turbocharger or a supercharger. Concurred totally...and as long as qq costs more..the choice is obvious...When I am coming to a stop at a traffic light and I see a QQ 1.2 in front of me, I will automatically switch to another lane coz I hate tagging behind a slow car that takes off from the traffic light at a tortoise pace. Edited November 6, 2016 by LPPL ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gevinchoo Clutched November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 so give a vote.... Vezel or QQ ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPL 6th Gear November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 (edited) so give a vote.... Vezel or QQ ?For reliability, greater hp and peace of mind, a vezel! Edited November 15, 2016 by LPPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advancer 3rd Gear November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 For reliability, greater hp and peace of mind, a vezel!Vezel for peace of mind?!?!Or you meant HRV? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPL 6th Gear November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 Vezel for peace of mind?!?! Or you meant HRV? When I mentioned peace of mind, it has to do with reliability. Stalling, loss of oil, loss of power and malfunctioning e-brake are problems associated with a QQ, buy at your own risk... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 Vezel for peace of mind?!?! Or you meant HRV? The car Vezel/hrv should be alright and gear toward so call peace of mind with regular maintenance. Is the process in obtaining the car that cause so much headaches to many. I always tried two distinguish these two factors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uranium2k 1st Gear November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 The car Vezel/hrv should be alright and gear toward so call peace of mind with regular maintenance. Is the process in obtaining the car that cause so much headaches to many. I always tried two distinguish these two factors.Vezel has its fair share of problems too. Seen in the Facebook groups that some encounter unusual electronics errors, dashboard flashing lights. Just recently saw someone had some gearbox error, and the PI workshop doesn't know how to fix it. I think the bulk of complains relate to the follow-up maintenance with PI workshops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 From my observations the issues with the HRV have been minor and largely solvable. Very few QC issues apart from that start stop one. And it doesn't stop the car from being used. However I must say the leather on certain parts doesn't look like it will last ten years. The QQ has a certain Conti feel, it drives well but the 1.2 is weak. From the main QQ thread you see buyers who buy it for less than the HRV, then spend 10k or more on all kinds of mods to make it go faster. You might as well as it's Renault cousin instead. That has a Tdi. Build is decent but perhaps one step behind the Japanese made HRV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee9389ck 4th Gear November 15, 2016 Share November 15, 2016 When I mentioned peace of mind, it has to do with reliability. Stalling, loss of oil, loss of power and malfunctioning e-brake are problems associated with a QQ, buy at your own risk... LPPL Bro, not sure how long you have been driving your QQ (i.e. presumably you own one since you speak with such confidence) but if you have encountered all the above issues, I feel your pain. thankfully, been driving my QQ 1.2T since Jan 2015 (now already clocked more than 66,000km) and I haven't met with any "reliability" issues, e.g. stalling, loss of oil, power, etc. I think it's pretty clear that for a car to clock more than 66,000km in less than 2 years, it must have been on the road a lot and spent little time in the workshop (i.e. apart from regular servicing)...right ? So if it was that bad as you have said, I think my mileage would have been closer to 6,600km...haha Since I actually do own one, think you can take it from me that while the QQ 1.2T may not be everyone's "dream car", it certainly is nowhere as bad as you made it out to be....haha... Then again, maybe I'm just lucky la. After all, as some of the other bros here have said, the Vezel has also certainly had it's fair share of "imperfections"...so in the end...sama sama lah Anyway, did not mean to post this as a direct response to you, but more as an assurance to the many who have bought (or may be thinking of getting), the QQ is certainly not a bad choice, you just got to know what you are looking for, that's all. Bro LPPL, if I have offended you in any way thru this post, please accept my apologies....my bad... Cheers 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPL 6th Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 LPPL Bro, not sure how long you have been driving your QQ (i.e. presumably you own one since you speak with such confidence) but if you have encountered all the above issues, I feel your pain. thankfully, been driving my QQ 1.2T since Jan 2015 (now already clocked more than 66,000km) and I haven't met with any "reliability" issues, e.g. stalling, loss of oil, power, etc. I think it's pretty clear that for a car to clock more than 66,000km in less than 2 years, it must have been on the road a lot and spent little time in the workshop (i.e. apart from regular servicing)...right ? So if it was that bad as you have said, I think my mileage would have been closer to 6,600km...haha Since I actually do own one, think you can take it from me that while the QQ 1.2T may not be everyone's "dream car", it certainly is nowhere as bad as you made it out to be....haha... Then again, maybe I'm just lucky la. After all, as some of the other bros here have said, the Vezel has also certainly had it's fair share of "imperfections"...so in the end...sama sama lah Anyway, did not mean to post this as a direct response to you, but more as an assurance to the many who have bought (or may be thinking of getting), the QQ is certainly not a bad choice, you just got to know what you are looking for, that's all. Bro LPPL, if I have offended you in any way thru this post, please accept my apologies....my bad... Cheers If you haven't encountered issues, good for you, but again a car bought in Jan 2015 should not be having issues as it is considered quite new. You better pray hard that your e-brake doesn't malfunction when going up slopes (a problem encountered by QQ owner who shared in sgcarmart review) and your engine doesn't suddenly packs up on you when you are speeding on the first lane. My apologies if I have offended you, but again I am not really directing the post at you, but moreso to warn others who are thinking of throwing their money on a QQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee9389ck 4th Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 If you haven't encountered issues, good for you, but again a car bought in Jan 2015 should not be having issues as it is considered quite new. You better pray hard that your e-brake doesn't malfunction when going up slopes (a problem encountered by QQ owner who shared in sgcarmart review) and your engine doesn't suddenly packs up on you when you are speeding on the first lane. My apologies if I have offended you, but again I am not really directing the post at you, but moreso to warn others who are thinking of throwing their money on a QQ. Bro of coz no offence taken..haha... all are here just to share opinions... will keep your words in mind and will remember to pray that these things don't happen to me the next time I go church on this Sunday.... Anyway, God has been good to me so far so I think I'll be fine...thanks. As for throwing money...aiya...if ppl got money and wanna throw it at a car, it's ok la...be it QQ or Vezel.... there'll equally be ppl who think buying a Vezel is throwing money away also.... to each his own lor.... Anyway, will keep your advice in mind, esp'ly if I happen to encounter problems with my QQ and choose to sell it off and buy a Vezel....thanks.. Cheers bro 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuanyan128 2nd Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 Vezel many uber car leh, damn sian when some sotong mistaken your car as their booking then try to open your car door when you park at the roadside especally in Raffles Place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPL 6th Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 I'm always happy when a car I drive gets used by driving centres or taxi companies coz I know it is reliable :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 (edited) Vezel many uber car leh, damn sian when some sotong mistaken your car as their booking then try to open your car door when you park at the roadside especally in Raffles Place.Raffles place? Ok.will go and see any pretty OL open my door. Edited November 16, 2016 by Kopites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuanyan128 2nd Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 Raffles place? Ok.will go and see any pretty OL open my door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuanyan128 2nd Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 I'm always happy when a car I drive gets used by driving centres or taxi companies coz I know it is reliable :-) Expected someone will have such reply. Well good for you to have such thought, I'm too narrow minded so totally can't put myself driving any of these models. Shame on me 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPL 6th Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 (edited) Expected someone will have such reply. Well good for you to have such thought, I'm too narrow minded so totally can't put myself driving any of these models. Shame on me It's ok lah, it is normal human behaviour to put aesthetics before anything else. I used not to cherish the word 'reliability' until problems arise. I have since learnt never to take reliability for granted. Edited November 16, 2016 by LPPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear November 16, 2016 Share November 16, 2016 LPPL Bro, not sure how long you have been driving your QQ (i.e. presumably you own one since you speak with such confidence) but if you have encountered all the above issues, I feel your pain. thankfully, been driving my QQ 1.2T since Jan 2015 (now already clocked more than 66,000km) and I haven't met with any "reliability" issues, e.g. stalling, loss of oil, power, etc. I think it's pretty clear that for a car to clock more than 66,000km in less than 2 years, it must have been on the road a lot and spent little time in the workshop (i.e. apart from regular servicing)...right ? So if it was that bad as you have said, I think my mileage would have been closer to 6,600km...haha Since I actually do own one, think you can take it from me that while the QQ 1.2T may not be everyone's "dream car", it certainly is nowhere as bad as you made it out to be....haha... Then again, maybe I'm just lucky la. After all, as some of the other bros here have said, the Vezel has also certainly had it's fair share of "imperfections"...so in the end...sama sama lah Anyway, did not mean to post this as a direct response to you, but more as an assurance to the many who have bought (or may be thinking of getting), the QQ is certainly not a bad choice, you just got to know what you are looking for, that's all. Bro LPPL, if I have offended you in any way thru this post, please accept my apologies....my bad... Cheers Hi Lee, Same here though drive exactly 1 year, all perfect and zero problem unlike mentioned except installer caused noise at glove compartment due to wire that had been resolved. Cheers. Richard ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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