diming87 1st Gear March 14, 2019 Share March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 3:03 PM, Hamburger said: Its a different approach for me. For Coe car it has to be a Merc or bmw. Reason is simple. The car is not simply just a point A to B for me. Will you consider Lexus IS250 rear wheel drive? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic March 14, 2019 Share March 14, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 7:17 AM, diming87 said: Will you consider Lexus IS250 rear wheel drive? seriously.....nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mengami 2nd Gear March 15, 2019 Share March 15, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 2:32 PM, Duststorm said: I’m a p-plate driver and looking to get my first car. More of point A to B needs. Is Mercedes B170 worth getting (10yrs COE, at ~$55k)? Or I should look at the more common Avante S (5yrs) or Airwave (5yrs)? Thanks in advance You mentioned point A to B so I assume the ride experience is secondary. In that case I would go Japanese if I were you since maintenance is a bigger factor for old cars and you would have no idea how the previous owner maintained his car. Japanese engineering are designed with greater fault tolerance while German less so. German cars would require you to stick to the strict maintenance schedule and I assume parts are more expensive. On top of that, I would also assume a 5 year old car would require less maintenance than one at 10. Caveat: I don't know anything about the respective engine designs and base purely on what the brands are known for. Don't know much about Korean engineering though, are they more like Germans or Japanese? Welcome to the world of driving! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duststorm Neutral Newbie March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 2:51 AM, mengami said: You mentioned point A to B so I assume the ride experience is secondary. In that case I would go Japanese if I were you since maintenance is a bigger factor for old cars and you would have no idea how the previous owner maintained his car. Japanese engineering are designed with greater fault tolerance while German less so. German cars would require you to stick to the strict maintenance schedule and I assume parts are more expensive. On top of that, I would also assume a 5 year old car would require less maintenance than one at 10. Caveat: I don't know anything about the respective engine designs and base purely on what the brands are known for. Don't know much about Korean engineering though, are they more like Germans or Japanese? Welcome to the world of driving! Thanks for all the advice... what if I may want to bring my foldable bike with me to East Coast and other Parks for a ride during weekends or ride with some comfort? Understand that Mercs will have higher maintenance cost. Will have to weigh the cost then. Altis do look spacious My colleague mentioned since I will not buy a brand new Mercs in future, why not get a 10yr COE Mercs now as once a lift time thing to own and drive with comfort of a Mercs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 6:41 AM, Duststorm said: Thanks for all the advice... what if I may want to bring my foldable bike with me to East Coast and other Parks for a ride during weekends or ride with some comfort? Understand that Mercs will have higher maintenance cost. Will have to weigh the cost then. Altis do look spacious My colleague mentioned since I will not buy a brand new Mercs in future, why not get a 10yr COE Mercs now as once a lift time thing to own and drive with comfort of a Mercs Why not consider buy a 8 year old one? Have the experience, and renew if good/reliable, scrap if experience is negative. At least you will know the car inside out to decide if you can live with it for another 10 years. Like paktor paktor first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaw819 4th Gear March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 6:56 AM, Volvobrick said: Why not consider buy a 8 year old one? Have the experience, and renew if good/reliable, scrap if experience is negative. At least you will know the car inside out to decide if you can live with it for another 10 years. Like paktor paktor first. Agree. Try to get a 8 to 9 years old car and drive it for a year or 2 to get a feel of the car and running cost. By COE expiry you should have a good idea if the car is good to renew for another 10 years. By buying COE car and if you don't like it or maintenance cost not bearable selling it might incur huge losses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvios 2nd Gear March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 6:41 AM, Duststorm said: Thanks for all the advice... what if I may want to bring my foldable bike with me to East Coast and other Parks for a ride during weekends or ride with some comfort? Understand that Mercs will have higher maintenance cost. Will have to weigh the cost then. Altis do look spacious My colleague mentioned since I will not buy a brand new Mercs in future, why not get a 10yr COE Mercs now as once a lift time thing to own and drive with comfort of a Mercs From lta website, I saw many people renew 5 yrs coe lately. These people w hit the high coe when the car life expires. It better to renew 10 yrs so and make sure the car condition can last close to 10 yrs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 4:40 PM, Tvios said: From lta website, I saw many people renew 5 yrs coe lately. These people w hit the high coe when the car life expires. It better to renew 10 yrs so and make sure the car condition can last close to 10 yrs.The COEs will be recycled back for use in 5 years time, it will smoothe out the drought COE cyclical pattern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic March 19, 2019 Share March 19, 2019 Ya, means in 5 yrs many car will be scrapped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvios 2nd Gear March 19, 2019 Share March 19, 2019 also for 10yr renewal, one have more flexibility to cash out when the coe dip during the 10yr period. On 3/18/2019 at 11:44 PM, Ct3833 said: The COEs will be recycled back for use in 5 years time, it will smoothe out the drought COE cyclical pattern. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonhat_91 6th Gear March 19, 2019 Share March 19, 2019 for once-in-a-lifetime Merc ownership experience, I would consider only C class or higher. definitely not the ugly B class. that said, all the best in your search for a ride! On 3/18/2019 at 6:41 AM, Duststorm said: My colleague mentioned since I will not buy a brand new Mercs in future, why not get a 10yr COE Mercs now as once a lift time thing to own and drive with comfort of a Mercs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic March 19, 2019 Share March 19, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 3:07 AM, boonhat_91 said: for once-in-a-lifetime Merc ownership experience, I would consider only C class or higher. definitely not the ugly B class. that said, all the best in your search for a ride! the renewed COE C class is not exp. And guess what, parts are not as costly as one might think sometimes even cheaper than Asian makes hor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged March 19, 2019 Share March 19, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 4:11 AM, Othello said: the renewed COE C class is not exp. And guess what, parts are not as costly as one might think sometimes even cheaper than Asian makes horHahaha..this is what I keep hearing so I went ahead to get a W212 but so far everything is more expensive than my previous car (see my avatar) leh. Oil change need 8L of liquid gold instead of the previous 6L... Thankfully it doesn't give me too much trouble..*touch wood touch wood* 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear March 24, 2019 Share March 24, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 12:56 AM, awhtc said: I just renewed my Vios' COE for next 10 years with effect from 1 April 2019 using the March PQP It is a good and durable car, and the maintenance is low compared to other makes. That's why people say buy once, buy right, buy Toyota. Will never regret one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic March 24, 2019 Share March 24, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 1:17 AM, RogerNg_185295 said: That's why people say buy once, buy right, buy Toyota. Will never regret one I never regretted. But I also move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic March 24, 2019 Share March 24, 2019 (edited) On 3/19/2019 at 1:29 PM, Toeknee_33 said: Hahaha..this is what I keep hearing so I went ahead to get a W212 but so far everything is more expensive than my previous car (see my avatar) leh. Oil change need 8L of liquid gold instead of the previous 6L... Thankfully it doesn't give me too much trouble..*touch wood touch wood* Haha but seriously, it is not more expensive and not that problematic as some may perceive. In return you get better ride quality from a w212. Engine oil wise, it last for 15k km before the next oil change, so maybe it is cheaper ?I have been driving Japanese cars for more than 20 years until I switch to merce more than 3 years ago, and since than it is a road of no return, unless it screw me up big time one day. And i am driving old w212 , so it is not for brand reason that I am driving it. I still do have an old altis too. Edited March 24, 2019 by Ct3833 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschan 3rd Gear March 24, 2019 Share March 24, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 3:03 PM, Hamburger said: Its a different approach for me. For Coe car it has to be a Merc or bmw. Reason is simple. The car is not simply just a point A to B for me. Why BMW? Car mechanic told me the cost for replacing BMW gearbox is easily 10k, it cannot be repaired or overhaul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic March 24, 2019 Share March 24, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 8:44 AM, kschan said: Why BMW? Car mechanic told me the cost for replacing BMW gearbox is easily 10k, it cannot be repaired or overhaul. Time to change a mechanics rather than the GB. ZF autotrans is no rocket science to most mechanics who knows their stuffs. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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