Gifted Education Programme

[Joelee2507]

I suppose yours also have the 'issues' that come along. easily emo, short attention, issues organising his life, etc..

Mine wasn't tested but from all the observations he's also kind of aspergers.

 

A lot of attention and patience is needed.

These kids are good with music as well. U may want to explore this. Important though, don't impose pressure.

 

yes all the same issues that you mentioned.

 

he has been attending yamaha music lesson, thanks for the info. 

You bet.

These kids are very inquisitive and very curious. The teacher will have to spend lots of time with them.

 

agreed, i was watching football last weekend. for the 1st half he watched with me, he talked and asked non stop for that 45min...... i rolled eye.....

[kdash]

Haha my girl in k1. The progress report All the psychomotor part is beginner.

 

girls usually develop their psychomotor slower than boys. eventually will normalise. i'm also surprised my boy can do things now which my girl could not do at the same age... 

Lol Okie what ever u say. I definitely not mensa level. See those logic or mathematical problems sure dizzy lol. Haha I still remember being totally stumped at the gep question when I was primary 3. Haha went out of the venue and told my mum no chance haha. Just like maths olympiad in pri 6.

 

haha i remember i 交白卷 for Maths Olympiad because i catch no ball during the training lessons... 

agreed, i was watching football last weekend. for the 1st half he watched with me, he talked and asked non stop for that 45min...... i rolled eye.....

 

wow... i hope my kids will be as interested in football as me... 

[Kusje]

Lol Okie what ever u say. I definitely not mensa level. See those logic or mathematical problems sure dizzy lol. Haha I still remember being totally stumped at the gep question when I was primary 3. Haha went out of the venue and told my mum no chance haha. Just like maths olympiad in pri 6.

 

Haha.

 

My wife is a member la.

[Lala81]

Haha.

 

My wife is a member la.

 

my wife wanted to get in badly, haha she said missed the S.D allowance by a very small margin or something. Haha she feels bu gan yuan  [laugh]But in the end, she say don't want to pay $ to take the exam again   (think it's 50 dollars or something)

 

Edited November 8, 2017 by Lala81

[Joelee2507]

girls usually develop their psychomotor slower than boys. eventually will normalise. i'm also surprised my boy can do things now which my girl could not do at the same age... 

 

haha i remember i 交白卷 for Maths Olympiad because i catch no ball during the training lessons... 

 

wow... i hope my kids will be as interested in football as me... 

 

 

i also tot to get him interested, we will be on the same page,,, but turn out.,. i cant watch it peacefully... do think twice what u wished for... hahaha

[Lala81]

i also tot to get him interested, we will be on the same page,,, but turn out.,. i cant watch it peacefully... do think twice what u wished for... hahaha

 

my dg keeps asking me. Why is the picture drawn like that, why is the music composed like that (yamaha music class). I also very zzz on how to answer such questions repeatedly 

[kdash]

Haha.

 

My wife is a member la.

 

waa... boost your ego sia... 

[Pratakosong]

Do parents in general still wish for their children to be selected for the GEP? 

Based on the facebook article below, it appears gep kids are under intensive academic pressure and a heavy workload. Also, there is no longer preferential treatment for gep kids during DSA selection plus they still need to take the PSLE together with the rest. 

 

So at the end of the day, is the GEP still relevant?

https://www.facebook.com/nicklebee.tutors/posts/2220488207978531

Edited August 17, 2018 by Pratakosong

[Lala81]

Do parents in general still wish for their children to be selected for the GEP? 

 

Based on the facebook article below, it appears gep kids are under intensive academic pressure and a heavy workload. Also, there is no longer preferential treatment for gep kids during DSA selection plus they still need to take the PSLE together with the rest. 

 

So at the end of the day, is the GEP still relevant?

 

https://www.facebook.com/nicklebee.tutors/posts/2220488207978531

 

i think if my child is able to get into GEP and that he/she is showing signs of boredom with the normal curriculum, i would enter them.

If they are comfortable in the normal curriculum/current school, i may not.

 

@silver_blade i believe, also didn't let his dg enter GEP.

[kdash]

i think if my child is able to get into GEP and that he/she is showing signs of boredom with the normal curriculum, i would enter them.

If they are comfortable in the normal curriculum/current school, i may not.

 

@silver_blade i believe, also didn't let his dg enter GEP.

agreed on this.

[Noobo]

GEP is meant for the development of students who have academic abilities that far exceed their peers. However, there are some parents who views it purely as a means for their child to secure economic success in the future.

 

As such, they sent their kids for preparatory lessons tailored for GEP-wannabe. Some do manage to be selected, but the fact remains that they do not possess the aptitude required, so they suffer in the programme.

 

Bottom-line is: Taking the GEP selection test is not compulsory, so is accepting the offer after being selected. If the child genuinely is gifted (got into GEP without breaking a sweat), is keen to take on the challenge and parents are supportive, its worth the time.

[Solar]

i think if my child is able to get into GEP and that he/she is showing signs of boredom with the normal curriculum, i would enter them.

If they are comfortable in the normal curriculum/current school, i may not.

 

@silver_blade i believe, also didn't let his dg enter GEP.

U go read the gep handbook given to eligible kids. Scary.

 

A gifted kid may excel in certain area, not all.

Can be very stressful.

 

Success stories are rare. Of that thousands of kids, how many can actually multi task and get all top grades?

 

BTW... The kids still need to go for psle and they only get serious into it in p6 while the rest since p4.

U screw psle, u are screwed, gifted or not.

GEP is meant for the development of students who have academic abilities that far exceed their peers. However, there are some parents who views it purely as a means for their child to secure economic success in the future.

 

As such, they sent their kids for preparatory lessons tailored for GEP-wannabe. Some do manage to be selected, but the fact remains that they do not possess the aptitude required, so they suffer in the programme.

 

Bottom-line is: Taking the GEP selection test is not compulsory, so is accepting the offer after being selected. If the child genuinely is gifted (got into GEP without breaking a sweat), is keen to take on the challenge and parents are supportive, its worth the time.

IMO, for bragging rights.

 

Sad for these kids. They suffer when they get in.

These are hardworking, not 'gifted'.

[Solar]

Do parents in general still wish for their children to be selected for the GEP?

 

Based on the facebook article below, it appears gep kids are under intensive academic pressure and a heavy workload. Also, there is no longer preferential treatment for gep kids during DSA selection plus they still need to take the PSLE together with the rest.

 

So at the end of the day, is the GEP still relevant?

 

https://www.facebook.com/nicklebee.tutors/posts/2220488207978531

On the preferential treatment...

While there isn't, GEP kids get more exposure, competitions and training. This give them a significant edge over mainstream kids.

 

But of course, must get thru psle

Edited August 18, 2018 by Solar

[Freeder]

Heard @dach was from the gifted program

See what has it done to him.. scary..

[Sosaria]

Being in GEP is still an advantage combined with good academic results when it comes to DSA. Think of it as something extra, in a group of students with similarly good psle results.

 

The workload in GEP is more and tougher but if the child pulls thru it, they will have gained some ability to handle pressure (the buzzword now is "resilience"), handle failures and setbacks (the standard set for tests is higher), and be self driven in their studies.

 

It's true that psle remains the tricky part. GEP students only prep for it from P6 onwards. Of course being gifted, prepping from P4 will kill them with boredom!

[Solar]

 

 

if you dun feel comfortable of him coping or the GEP school is too far, opt out.

 

My wife niece was selected to go Tao Nan, she opt out yet able to make it to RGS & NYSG after the PSLE.

A bro just praised my old post and I read again your reply to me back then.

 

Yes.. opted him out. He's now doing rather well in RI.

His year 1 exam, he beat those previously from gifted schools and is among the top few in math

[Newbie26]

Thanks for sharing the link

 

Nice viewpoint and summary of key issues in the article

 

Practically every year, the debate on relevance of GEP programme surfaces, and the other debate on whether one should train for the

 

selection.

 

As authors has pointed out, the almost "automatic" entry through DSA used to be a major plus point but with new DSA criteria, the advantage for those in GEP is much less now

 

The key issue is whether the programme will be useful for the very smart kids. Based on online feedback over the years, it does appear the broad challenging programme does cater to the needs for the vast majority of students

 

No programme is perfect, and so does the selection test. The selection will probably capture the majority of the very smart students who excel in english and math. However, not everyone selected are strong in both and not forgetting in PSLE, there is the chinese language in the equation.

 

My own view is that perhaps the term "Gifted" may not be the best to ascribe the programme because it may give students or parents the wrong perception of premature academic achievement or may give unnecessary pressure on those who are struggling inside the programme.

 

As many have highlighted "Giftedness" can be in different domains, and in a sense in each yearly cohort, there are only a handful of "truly gifted" kids in the math and english domains, these few individuals are intrinsically way way ahead of their peers of similar biological age and probably should be managed differently.

 

The vast majority of the 500 kids are very bright high ability kids and likely little different from the next top 1000-2000 kids who did not get selected, and these top 3-5% high ability kids generally will do well in any programme whether in mainstream or in gifted programme.

 

So if we can  coin or perceive the programme as a sort of Primary school Special Enrichment Programme and if resources are available,

 

allow most schools to create a class or two for their better students who wish to  opt for them, then it will help raise all ships in our education

 

system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do parents in general still wish for their children to be selected for the GEP? 

Based on the facebook article below, it appears gep kids are under intensive academic pressure and a heavy workload. Also, there is no longer preferential treatment for gep kids during DSA selection plus they still need to take the PSLE together with the rest. 

 

So at the end of the day, is the GEP still relevant?

https://www.facebook.com/nicklebee.tutors/posts/2220488207978531

 

[Pratakosong]

Thanks for sharing the link

 

Nice viewpoint and summary of key issues in the article

 

Practically every year, the debate on relevance of GEP programme surfaces, and the other debate on whether one should train for the

 

selection.

 

As authors has pointed out, the almost "automatic" entry through DSA used to be a major plus point but with new DSA criteria, the advantage for those in GEP is much less now

 

The key issue is whether the programme will be useful for the very smart kids. Based on online feedback over the years, it does appear the broad challenging programme does cater to the needs for the vast majority of students

 

No programme is perfect, and so does the selection test. The selection will probably capture the majority of the very smart students who excel in english and math. However, not everyone selected are strong in both and not forgetting in PSLE, there is the chinese language in the equation.

 

My own view is that perhaps the term "Gifted" may not be the best to ascribe the programme because it may give students or parents the wrong perception of premature academic achievement or may give unnecessary pressure on those who are struggling inside the programme.

 

As many have highlighted "Giftedness" can be in different domains, and in a sense in each yearly cohort, there are only a handful of "truly gifted" kids in the math and english domains, these few individuals are intrinsically way way ahead of their peers of similar biological age and probably should be managed differently.

 

The vast majority of the 500 kids are very bright high ability kids and likely little different from the next top 1000-2000 kids who did not get selected, and these top 3-5% high ability kids generally will do well in any programme whether in mainstream or in gifted programme.

 

So if we can  coin or perceive the programme as a sort of Primary school Special Enrichment Programme and if resources are available,

 

allow most schools to create a class or two for their better students who wish to  opt for them, then it will help raise all ships in our education

 

system.

 

Agreed! From what i have previously heard, the FB article does give a good overview of the gep and what life inside is like.

 

I believe most schools do have 1 or 2 high ability classes where they provide more enrichment stuff out of the curriculum. And in some gep schools, they let the high ability classes attend talks or do projects together with the gep classes.