Watwheels Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 12:46 AM, Kusje said: pcb. send them to me and give me immunity. I give them 1 week of suffering. After that they will be begging to die. What are you trying to tell us? That you are the same level as the couple? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocy Hypersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 11:02 PM, RadX said: Words cannot describe such beasts more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/couple-tortured-intellectually-disabled-waitress-who-died-after-9445228 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 12:51 AM, Beregond said: cannot imagine we had such ppl living among us. It's just sad a life is lost to get someone's attention to have the couple arrested. The ppl around them had not notice anything unusual or boh chap? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 1:05 AM, Watwheels said: What are you trying to tell us? That you are the same level as the couple? mine is justice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 1:10 AM, Kusje said: mine is justice you justice league ha must be batman...alwes depressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 12:41 AM, Mercury1 said: Besides a huge sentence they should give they max caning, taste of their own medicine if they are charged and convicted of murder then no need caning already... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 Don't know there are such Singaporeans around here...... Beast nor Monster nor Tyranny vocab also cannot match their Evil Deeds Besides she had her own family to fall back to ...... social fabric is all torn up with maybe indepence and easy money On 11/27/2017 at 11:02 PM, RadX said: Words cannot describe such beasts Singapore Couple ‘tortured’ intellectually disabled waitress, who died after 8 months of abuse image: SINGAPORE: The day before she died in her sleep, 26-year-old Annie Ee Yu Lian tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists with a pair of scissors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 1:13 AM, kdash said: if they are charged and convicted of murder then no need caning already... then i hv to collect 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 1:10 AM, Kusje said: mine is justice Using violence to solve violence will just become a vicous cycle. Look at the US they use violence to solve violence and later use it whenever where ever they seem as appropriate. That's where haters come in and say who made them the judge of everthing and soon retaliate with the same violence. Where got peace? It isn't justice, it's just an excuse to excercise more violence. The violence should be stopped the moment ppl start to notice it and put an end to it there and then, to prevent it from escalating. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 11:32 PM, Chongster said: these days, like hardly anybody get charged for murder anymore. it seems there is a conscious move by AG chambers not to charge people for murder. just about every case also charge under grevious hurt. I think murder is applicable for a specific plan with intention to kill. One of the cases I remember is a guy instruct a boy to kill the ex wife. Beating and torture is kinda grey as it can be justify with no intention to kill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 Sometimes death sentence is too light. Very sad case. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 1:48 AM, Stratovarius said: I think murder is applicable for a specific plan with intention to kill. One of the cases I remember is a guy instruct a boy to kill the ex wife. Beating and torture is kinda grey as it can be justify with no intention to kill. even so, it came at a cost of a life. any lawyer who can confirm the para below? Quote Sections 299 and 300 of the Penal Code govern the offences of culpable homicide and murder respectively. Section 300 states that you commit murder, if you: cause the death with the intention of causing the death. cause the death with the intention of causing bodily injury that you know is likely to kill the person cause the death with the intention of causing bodily injury, and that bodily injury is objectively determined to be sufficient in the ordinary course of nature to cause death. cause the death knowing that what you are doing is so imminently dangerous that it must in all probability cause death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelee2507 3rd Gear November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 Annie, who worked as a waitress, was also forced to hand over her entire paycheck of S$1,200 to Tan, who gave her a weekly allowance of S$50, which she later reduced to S$30. Annie, whom Tan called “pig brain", was also made to record made-up sums of money in Tan’s “book of debts” to “compensate” for every time she angered Tan, whom she called “jie jie” (older sister in Mandarin), by “talking nonsense and telling lies”, the court heard. Estranged from her family, Annie moved into the couple’s Woodlands flat in late 2013. She agreed to earn her keep by helping with the housework, but ended up cooking and cleaning for the couple on top of paying rent of S$500 per a month. Maid u still need to pay and give her rest. this is free labour , collect rent and even used for venting fustration.... they should be hanged...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 Hang them ? So poor thing, these both. I bet the friendly folks at Changi Paradiso Resort are keen to assimilate them, have no doubt they'll fit in nicely 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 3:16 AM, Othello said: Hang them ? So poor thing, these both. I bet the friendly folks at Changi Paradiso Resort are keen to assimilate them, have no doubt they'll fit in nicely they will be separated.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 i guess i just think differently from other people... i honestly think the society failed dead lady on many counts... As stated in the reports ... she is intellectually sub-par... in her daily to and fro work... taking public transport... interactions with her colleagues... or visitations of doctors etc... and NO ONE referred her sad case to proper authorities ... please stay vigilant guys.... as for that couple... truth is their intention was NOT to murder... they took depraved advantages of an individual 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 11:02 PM, RadX said: Words cannot describe such beasts Singapore Couple âtorturedâ intellectually disabled waitress, who died after 8 months of abuse image: SINGAPORE: The day before she died in her sleep, 26-year-old Annie Ee Yu Lian tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists with a pair of scissors. She had âreached the limits of her enduranceâ after eight months of horrific abuse at the hands of her longtime friend Tan Hui Zhen, 33, and Tanâs husband Pua Hak Chuan, 38, the High Court heard on Monday (Nov 27). âAll Annie wanted from Tan and Pua was acceptance and affection,â Deputy Public Prosecutors April Phang and Claire Poh said. âYet she died alone and in excruciating pain.â Annie, who was intellectually disabled, was found dead in her bed on Apr 13, 2015. An autopsy detailed the extent of the abuse she suffered: 12 fractured ribs and seven fractured vertebrae, a ruptured stomach and a body crowded with blisters and bruises. Annie had been âpulverised", the prosecutors said. She had been âtortured,â âstripped of her money, her dignity and her will to live,â they told the court. HIT WITH BELT, BAMBOO STICK, SLIPPERS Besides slapping and punching Annie with their bare hands, the coupleâs weapons included a pair of bedroom slippers, a bright red plastic belt, a bamboo stick, a plastic dustbin and a large, heavy roll of shrink wrap. Annie, who worked as a waitress, was also forced to hand over her entire paycheck of S$1,200 to Tan, who gave her a weekly allowance of S$50, which she later reduced to S$30. Annie, whom Tan called âpig brain", was also made to record made-up sums of money in Tanâs âbook of debtsâ to âcompensateâ for every time she angered Tan, whom she called âjie jieâ (older sister in Mandarin), by âtalking nonsense and telling liesâ, the court heard. Estranged from her family, Annie moved into the coupleâs Woodlands flat in late 2013. She agreed to earn her keep by helping with the housework, but ended up cooking and cleaning for the couple on top of paying rent of S$500 per a month. Tan started to abuse Annie in August 2014. She confessed to slapping Annie multiple times over about five months, with her bare hands and then with a pair of bedroom slippers when her palms started to hurt. Exhausted from beating Annie, Tan would instruct her husband to take over. Pua, who referred to himself as the âstandby slapper", would be scolded by his wife if he did not hit Annie hard enough, the court heard. DAILY BEATINGS The abuse escalated. From December 2014 until her death, Annie was beaten daily. When her colleagues started to ask questions about bruises all over her body, Tan forced her to quit her job and found her a new one at another restaurant. The couple agreed to hit Annie on the buttocks so her injuries would be less obvious. About a month before her death, the couple started to assault Annie with a large, heavy roll of shrink wrap after the bamboo pole snapped. They noticed she seemed afraid of the large roll, which measured 51.5cm by 24cm and weighed about 1.05kg. In March 2015, Tan noticed a red stain on Annieâs shorts. She discovered multiple blisters on Annieâs buttocks, the largest measuring 7.5cm in diameter. Tan made Annie lie down before she pricked a blister with a needle, breaking it. So much fluid and blood burst from the blister that Tan, aided by her husband, soaked it up with sanitary pads and panty liners, which they also used as bandages to cover the open wound. Tan told Annie to lie about the injury, and to tell anyone who asked that she had fallen down. The couple continued to beat Annie on her buttocks. About two weeks before her death, when they realised Annie was growing increasingly weak, Tan and Pua started to monitor her blood pressure and heart rate. They even thought about ceasing the beatings until she recovered, but this lasted only two days before Tan resumed hitting Annie for âbreaking the rulesâ by refusing to eat. When Annie showed up at work on Apr 8 unable to walk properly, her new colleagues started to ask questions and sent her home to rest. Even customers were alarmed by Annieâs state. Tan told Annieâs colleague that she was âfully OK", that she was acting âlike a child", and that she tended to âexaggerate over small issuesâ. This was the last time Annieâs colleagues saw her alive. SUICIDE ATTEMPT Annie attempted suicide on Apr 12 by slitting her wrists with a pair of scissors, but was discovered by Pua before she could harm herself seriously. She told Pua she felt âuselessâ because she did not do what âjie jieâ had told her to do. Over the course of the day, Tan found Annie lying in her urine twice, too weak to stand. She also could not eat or put on her shorts as her buttocks were too raw and swollen. At about 9pm, Tan and Pua summoned Annie into the living room. By this time, Annie seemed delirious and was panting. She could not sit up straight or explain why she had become incontinent. This angered Tan, who scolded Annie for her âbad attitudeâ and repeatedly beat Annieâs back with the roll of shrink wrap. Annie fell onto the floor, and started to crawl towards her bedroom. Pua told her to âstop acting,â and asked if she was âlooking for troubleâ. He grabbed the shrink wrap and beat Annieâs legs, abdomen, back and buttocks. Unsatisfied, Pua picked up a plastic dustbin and slammed it onto Annie, curled up on the floor. The plastic dustbin broke from the impact. Tan helped Annie back into her room. After measuring her blood pressure, the couple went to bed. When they woke up next morning, Annie was dead. According to a 2015 psychiatric report, Tan suffers from multiple psychiatric conditions including depression and borderline personality disorder. Pua does not suffer from any mental condition. First charged with murder, the couple pleaded guilty to reduced charges on Monday. Tan pleaded guilty to four of 14 charges - two counts of causing grievous hurt with a weapon and two counts of causing grievous hurt. Pua pleaded guilty to three out of four charges - two counts of causing grievous hurt with a weapon and one of causing hurt. They will be sentenced on Friday. Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/couple-tortured-intellectually-disabled-waitress-who-died-after-9445228 Really can't understand why isn't this murder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic November 28, 2017 Share November 28, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 3:29 AM, Lala81 said: Really can't understand why isn't this murder. I think murder must start with the INTENT to kill.... I am not a lawyer, some lawyer member can better explain. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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