Renault Captur

[Kangadrool]

Seems like there's 2 versions as I gathered from the web - one is traditional pull open type, another type is like tray type. Not too sure about those imported here. Didn't scrutinize it during the sneak preview.

 

I wonder if the glovebox is the same size (tiny) as the rest of the French cars.

 

more important is the acceleration figure from 0-60 km/hr.

 

It's based on the Clio. It's small. Like the polo cross. Mini crossovers.

Its engine is the same as those used in their vans. Turbodiese although has loads of torque the 0-100km/he timing can be disappointing. But that few seconds more won't feel a lot on road cars.

 

[Rickster]

I was at vivo yesterday.

 

Saw the captur at the Renault displays. Nice exterior but interior can comfortably take 4 persons. 5 would be a squeeze unless all back passengers are very small sized. One key irritant I have is that it uses hand brake...i thought hand brake is an almost obsolete item?

 

It's also equipped with rear drum brakes...

[Kangadrool]

Many of Renault models use this 1.5 CRDi engine including the rebranded MB Citan.

 

Tested both Grand Scenic and Captur, Captur has better drive as far as acceleration and throttle response is concerned. Tuning is slightly different across different models. Not too sure about the Megane hatch as it's too tight and low = so never bother about it.

 

1.5 turbo, crdi, 88bhp@4000rpm, 220nm torque.

0 to 100 13.5sec, so slow considering the high torque. Car must be very heavy.

 

Drums can save a lot of $$$ as conti discs are normally more expensive and require earlier replacement than Japenis.

 

It's also equipped with rear drum brakes...

 

Edited September 22, 2014 by Kangadrool

[Rickster]

Seems like there's 2 versions as I gathered from the web - one is traditional pull open type, another type is like tray type. Not too sure about those imported here. Didn't scrutinize it during the sneak preview.

 

 

more important is the acceleration figure from 0-60 km/hr.

 

 

 

Renault bread n butter cars generally have very relaxed acceleration figures, like typical french lifestyle.

[Jamesc]

I wonder if the glovebox is the same size (tiny) as the rest of the French cars.

 

The reason French cars have tiny glove boxes is that

 

the French men only needs to put his cap in there.

 

[jarjar]

looks really interesting, how does it compare with Citroen Picasso 5 seater and Peugeot 2008?

[Kangadrool]

The main and important part of a car is gearbox and engine.

 

For Citrus and F&N cars, they like to use the irritating EGS which majority of the people can't cope and handle.

 

For the Diamond, it's using the 6-speed dual clutch.

 

Take note, these are not real SUVs, just simply a jacked up hatch with 2-wheel drive functionality.

 

looks really interesting, how does it compare with Citroen Picasso 5 seater and Peugeot 2008?

 

Edited September 24, 2014 by Kangadrool

[jarjar]

I see, besides gearbox, reliability and service wise, any ideas between these three brands?

 

The main and important part of a car is gearbox and engine.

 

For Citrus and F&N cars, they like to use the irritating EGS which majority of the people can't cope and handle.

 

For the Diamond, it's using the 6-speed dual clutch.

 

Take note, these are not real SUVs, just simply a jacked up hatch with 2-wheel drive functionality.

 

 

 

[Heman75]

The main and important part of a car is gearbox and engine.

 

For Citrus and F&N cars, they like to use the irritating EGS which majority of the people can't cope and handle.

 

For the Diamond, it's using the 6-speed dual clutch.

 

Take note, these are not real SUVs, just simply a jacked up hatch with 2-wheel drive functionality.

 

 

Can share what so irritating about ESG gear box?

[Kangadrool]

LOL, it's jerky like changing gear without clutch or with poor clutch control. Very unintuitive and unnatural. You need to control and time very well on your gas pedal based on the robotized GB's shift. Otherwise, kick kock kick kock.......

 

Can share what so irritating about ESG gear box?

 

Service wise, I will take the Diamond.

 

I see, besides gearbox, reliability and service wise, any ideas between these three brands?

 

 

 

[Heman75]

LOL, it's jerky like changing gear without clutch or with poor clutch control. Very unintuitive and unnatural. You need to control and time very well on your gas pedal based on the robotized GB's shift. Otherwise, kick kock kick kock.......

 

 

Service wise, I will take the Diamond.

 

 

Then any good thing about ESG GB?

[Kangadrool]

nothing.

Then any good thing about ESG GB?

 

[jarjar]

Any idea comparing with new Honda Vezel. seems quite similar.....

[Currahee]

tried the car...

abit tight in space.. think it is almost same or smaller than the swift for the rear passengers..

torque present since diesel..

[Fuelsaver]

Any idea comparing with new Honda Vezel. seems quite similar.....

Think go for vezel should b wiser for few reasons like resale value, reliability, spaciousness. Just went for captur test drive. Diesel version performance seemed ok but in manual mode gb not as responsive or immediate as I'd liked it to be, si nice it being dct.

 

Cvt w paddle shift should feel better IMHO.

[Kangadrool]

Think the rear seats were pushed forward (enlarged boot)? If it's pushed backward (normal boot position), the leg room is spacious. My complaint is, the rear seats are rather flat.

 

tried the car...

abit tight in space.. think it is almost same or smaller than the swift for the rear passengers..

torque present since diesel..

 

[Sweeney]

nothing.

 

 

If the ESG is somewhat like the Duologic in Fiat, then my 2 cents on the advantage is that it is a manual GB that the driver can play with. I often do that in my Fiat. Downshifting for corners gives more me more control that normal ATs. On rare occasions, I would downshift once to over-take with almost immediate response. Can also drag on gear (when FULL manual mode) to higher RPMs before shifting up. I am happy to have the dulogic, but the jerkiness that some forummers mentioned is there, but have gotten used to the idiosyncrasies and adapted to it.

[Kangadrool]

I rather stick to real manual as it's more natural, can half-clutch when needed.

 

Most modern clutch pedals are very light. In fact, Fiat is the lightest of all I tested. So, no reason not to drive real manual.

 

 

If the ESG is somewhat like the Duologic in Fiat, then my 2 cents on the advantage is that it is a manual GB that the driver can play with. I often do that in my Fiat. Downshifting for corners gives more me more control that normal ATs. On rare occasions, I would downshift once to over-take with almost immediate response. Can also drag on gear (when FULL manual mode) to higher RPMs before shifting up. I am happy to have the dulogic, but the jerkiness that some forummers mentioned is there, but have gotten used to the idiosyncrasies and adapted to it.