MAS Crashes in Ukraine - MH17

[Thaiyotakamli]

See any similarities? May not be separatists after all.

 

Ukraine has a history of denial for shooting plane down.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html

 

 

Russian Flag Colors

 

 

Malaysian Airlines Colors

 

 

They can see color meh above 31000 feet?

[Icedbs]

See any similarities? May not be separatists after all.

 

Ukraine has a history of denial for shooting plane down.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html

 

 

Russian Flag Colors

 

 

Malaysian Airlines Colors

 

 

Ukraine says they don't have such missile system at their disposal. I kind of believe that they are really inadequate in weaponary, otherwise Russian wouldn't just walk into Crimea and took over that place.

 

17Jul shot down.

Birthday for the aircraft became a disaster!

 

weekend must go and hoot 1717

 

Bro.....I don't wish to be a spoil sport, but nobody should buy 4D out of such tragedy. Would you be really happy if you strike out of the expense of 295 lives?

 

[Civic2000]

American Pie star Jason Biggs has been forced to defend a joke he made on Twitter shortly after a Malaysia Airlines plane was 'shot down' in the Ukraine today.

The actor wrote: "Anyone wanna buy my Malaysian Airlines frequent flier miles?" but was immediately inundated by complaints from fans and users, saying it was inappropriate.

One user wrote: "Too soon, man. Too soon," another added: "Thats not funny," and one simply wrote: "You're sick."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-american-3876050#ixzz37kll9zgn
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[Zakkwylde]

I think its confirm chop. RIP to the dead. My heart goes out to their loved ones….

[Mustank]

The intercepted phone call in this page

 

Now the separatist Gan Jiong Liao

 

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/%5Bbreaking%5D-malaysian-passenger-airliner-crashes-ukraine-4747145-106.html

[macrosszero]

SQ351 landed just a while ago at Changi. Thank goodness for that. The pilots may have seen something - it was around 9am that the MH flight was downed.

 

Questions:

 

- who shot it down;

- eliminate no possibilities: false flag operation?;

- what missiles in-theatre had the range and capability to knock a plane down for 30,000 feet?;

 

- was the aircraft squawking IFF-civilian codes?;

 

- fingers crossed that the black boxes can be retrieved without being tampered with.

 

 

 

[Ktglfc]

Just heard this news this morning, while in Kyushu, Japan now.

 

My heart sank :(

There were total silence among us ...

 

My condolences to the families whose family members were in the plane..

RIP :(

 

Hope the relevant authorities in both countries can investigate thoroughly, and give an answer to these families..

 

RIP, and really hope there won't be any airplane mishap le ......

[RadX]

This is real sad!!!

 

The bolded part! Haiz! RIP to the deceased.

 

 

 

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia's premier expressed "shock" at reports a Malaysia Airlines flight may have been shot down over troubled eastern Ukraine as his nation reeled from another wrenching air tragedy just months after MH370 disappeared.

Tearful relatives began gathering at Kuala Lumpur's international airport in the early hours of Friday morning, many beside themselves with grief as they endured an agonising wait.

One woman, Akmar Mohd Noor, said her 67-year-old sister was among the 298 people on board Flight MH17, adding that she rushed to the airport as soon as she saw the news on television.

"She was coming back from Geneva to celebrate Hari Raya (Eid al-Fitr) with us for the first time in 30 years. Her son was supposed to come with her but he refused to come with her," she said between sobs.

"She called me just before she boarded the plane and said 'see you soon'."

The crash is a fresh blow to the flag carrier which, along with the Malaysian government, is still struggling to provide answers to the disappearance of flight MH370 on 8 March.

At a press conference early Friday a sombre Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, dressed in black, said the world was "united in grief" over the disaster.

"This is a tragic day, in what has already been a tragic year, for Malaysia," he said.

As questions were raised over why the passenger jet was flying over an active war zone, Najib said international air authorities had deemed the flight path safe.

"The aircraft's flight route was declared safe by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. And (the) International Air Transportation Association has stated that the airspace the aircraft was traversing was not subject to restrictions," he said.

Najib added that a team of disaster response specialists had been dispatched to Kiev and that authorities in Ukraine had agreed to try and establish "a humanitarian corridor to the crash site".

US and Ukrainian officials believe the Boeing 777, which Malaysia Airlines said was carrying 283 passengers and 15 crew, was shot down by a surface-to-air-missile.

Ukraine's government and pro-Russian insurgents traded blame for the disaster, with comments attributed to a rebel chief suggesting his men may have downed the flight by mistake, believing it was a Ukrainian army transport plane.

Russia, which backs the rebels, said Ukraine bore responsibility for crash.

The stricken flight had been expected in the Malaysian capital at 6:10 am on Friday (2210 GMT Thursday).

Some relatives at Kuala Lumpur's international airport expressed anger that they still had not been briefed by Malaysia Airlines officials.

"We have been waiting here for four hours... Where is MAS (Malaysia Airlines)?" an ethnic Chinese with relatives on board the flight said, declining to give his name.

Another ethnic Indian man who said his sister, brother-in-law and their two-year-old baby were believed to be on the flight said: "We just want to have the name list from MAS."

The crash comes just months after Malaysia's Flight MH370 disappeared on March 8 with 239 on board. That plane diverted from its Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight path and its fate remains a mystery despite a massive aerial and underwater search.

No trace of the plane has yet been found.

Kiev earlier accused Russia of downing a Ukrainian military plane on a mission over the east of the country, stoking tensions in the growing conflict on the edges of Europe.

Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai, who was on a China visit, tweeted: "I'm taking the first flight back from Beijing to be on top of #MH17. Pray and hope please."

Liow took over last month in a cabinet shuffle from then-acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein, who gained world notoriety with his daily briefings on the MH370 saga. Hishammuddin remains defence minister.

During his press conference, Najib said it was too early to tell whether MH17 had been down by a missile.

But he added: "If it transpires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must swiftly be brought to justice."

- AFP/de

[Camrysfa]

MAS : 2 tradegies within 6 months. Incredible.

[Maxus-MIFA9]

The CEO of MAS and MY Transport Minister suay lar ....

 

Think they better step-down and let some lucky guys take over ...

[Karoon]

The CEO of MAS and MY Transport Minister suay lar ....

 

Think they better step-down and let some lucky guys take over ...

 

the old transport minister already gave way to the new one last month i think....

[2BDriver]

 

the old transport minister already gave way to the new one last month i think....

They are all the same..............Hopeless

[Karoon]

 

Ya... stay home probably safest.

 

Seems the plane flew into a zone that was recently made restricted to civilian aircrafts on July 8. Maybe that why [:/]

 

to be fair to MAS, it wasn't closed at their level. They'd be the last airline to defy instructions after 370

 

 

http://www.eurocontrol.int/news/mh-17-ukraine

According to our information, the aircraft was flying at Flight Level 330 (approximately 10,000 metres/33,000 feet) when it disappeared from the radar. This route had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320

but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying.

Since the crash, the Ukrainian authorities have informed EUROCONTROL of the closure of routes from the ground to unlimited in Eastern Ukraine (Dnipropetrovsk Flight Information Region). All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by EUROCONTROL. The routes will remain closed until further notice.

[Yuan]

This is indeed very sad news.

 

My condolences, prayers and thoughts to the family members and loved ones of those who had died in the crash.

[Toothiewabbit]

It's has been a year of high casualties disasters.

 

RIP to all on board.

[Wt_know]

Eurocontrol and International Aviation should have declared no "flight zone" especially there were reports russia and ukraine plane/helicopter shot down since the conflict started

 

Eurocontrol: Malaysia MH17 jet was 1,000 feet above closed airspace

 

"This route had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320 (approximately 32,000 feet) but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying."

 

Edited July 17, 2014 by Wt_know

[Yuan]

 

You haven't seen FSA and ISIS. It's their daily scenery.

 

ISIS is engaging, in my opinion, in a different kind of war and they have different agenda.

[Trex101]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system

 

The Buk missile system seem really complex, consisting of command vehicle, target acquisition radar (TAR) vehicle and TELAR launch vehicle, probably need >13 well train crew to acquire target and launch the missile, i doubt the rebels have the means and capability to hide and maintain such a system without getting knock out by Ukrainian airforce.

 

I bet MH17 has been shot down by the Ukrainian military when they attempt to shot down "suspected russian aircraft" after their SU25 are down yesterday 16July.