MAS Crashes in Ukraine - MH17

[macrosszero]

I could already see the first discrepancy in Russia's counter argument:

 

If it was an SU-25, its primarily a ground attack aircraft, the Russian equivalent of a A-10 Thunderbolt. Now perhaps the Russians know the specs of the aircraft better than Wikipedia does, but a straight-and-level Boeing 777 cruising at 500mph and 32,000 feet is pretty much pushing the envelope for that aircraft.

[Sp4wn]

Malaysia Airlines Diverts Plane Over Another War Zone After MH17 Crash

Malaysia Airlines diverted one of its planes from Ukraine to another war zone: Syria.

On Sunday, the airline re-routed its flight MH4 from Kuala Lumpur to London over Syrian airspace, after the Ukraine route was closed in the wake of Flight 17's downing last Thursday.

Flightradar24, a website that tracks the routes of airlines, shared an image via its Twitter account on Monday with the statement: "Malaysia Airlines flight MH4 (Airbus A380) flew over Syria yesterday."

After Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in eastern Ukraine, flights have avoided Ukranian airspace, and the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation (Eurocontrol) is rejecting flights over the area.

"All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by Eurocontrol. The routes will remain closed until further notice," the agency said on its website.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/21/malaysia-airlines-divert-syria-mh17/

I guess they will keep trying to find the shortest route lo ... ><

[Toothiewabbit]

 

Malaysia Airlines Diverts Plane Over Another War Zone After MH17 Crash

Malaysia Airlines diverted one of its planes from Ukraine to another war zone: Syria.

On Sunday, the airline re-routed its flight MH4 from Kuala Lumpur to London over Syrian airspace, after the Ukraine route was closed in the wake of Flight 17's downing last Thursday.

Flightradar24, a website that tracks the routes of airlines, shared an image via its Twitter account on Monday with the statement: "Malaysia Airlines flight MH4 (Airbus A380) flew over Syria yesterday."

After Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in eastern Ukraine, flights have avoided Ukranian airspace, and the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation (Eurocontrol) is rejecting flights over the area.

"All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by Eurocontrol. The routes will remain closed until further notice," the agency said on its website.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/21/malaysia-airlines-divert-syria-mh17/

I guess they will keep trying to find the shortest route lo ... ><

 

 

haizz.....as though they do not have enuf problems on their hands

[Kklim]

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

Edited July 22, 2014 by Kklim

[Jman888]

 

Malaysia Airlines Diverts Plane Over Another War Zone After MH17 Crash

Malaysia Airlines diverted one of its planes from Ukraine to another war zone: Syria.

On Sunday, the airline re-routed its flight MH4 from Kuala Lumpur to London over Syrian airspace, after the Ukraine route was closed in the wake of Flight 17's downing last Thursday.

Flightradar24, a website that tracks the routes of airlines, shared an image via its Twitter account on Monday with the statement: "Malaysia Airlines flight MH4 (Airbus A380) flew over Syria yesterday."

After Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in eastern Ukraine, flights have avoided Ukranian airspace, and the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation (Eurocontrol) is rejecting flights over the area.

"All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by Eurocontrol. The routes will remain closed until further notice," the agency said on its website.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/21/malaysia-airlines-divert-syria-mh17/

I guess they will keep trying to find the shortest route lo ... ><

 

 

 

they are probably desperate now, maybe run out of funds and suppliers demand payment, no staff willing to work and maybe outstanding salaries, this is a dying company where they need a very strong financial reassurance to boost the morale to begin with.

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

 

 

like what was suspect initially, they probably mistook it as a russian plane (maybe thinking putin on it) lor

[Sp4wn]

 

 

they are probably desperate now, maybe run out of funds and suppliers demand payment, no staff willing to work and maybe outstanding salaries, this is a dying company where they need a very strong financial reassurance to boost the morale to begin with.

 

 

like what was suspect initially, they probably mistook it as a russian plane (maybe thinking putin on it) lor

 

well 2 disasters like this, no offense or disrespect to the dead of course, but malaysia airlines will still collect on the insurance for the planes. if they dont buy new replacement ones, they will definitely have an increased cashflow, right? each plane even insured for 200-300mil can help their operating cost significantly (their fleet size seems to be between 80-90 planes, based on a cursory google search)

[Ryu]

So from now onwards before we book any flights, we have to do our own research to find out which route the flights are taking, then choose the one with the safest route. This is silly.

 

well 2 disasters like this, no offense or disrespect to the dead of course, but malaysia airlines will still collect on the insurance for the planes. if they dont buy new replacement ones, they will definitely have an increased cashflow, right? each plane even insured for 200-300mil can help their operating cost significantly (their fleet size seems to be between 80-90 planes, based on a cursory google search)

 

They may get some money from insurance but the damage to their reputation is unrecoverable.

[Sp4wn]

So from now onwards before we book any flights, we have to do our own research to find out which route the flights are taking, then choose the one with the safest route. This is silly.

 

They may get some money from insurance but the damage to their reputation is unrecoverable.

 

this is also true. but ultimately, people already said this one with the missile could have happened to any airline, even our dear SQ. so i doubt people can hold this against them. it would be unrealistic ...

[Ryu]

 

this is also true. but ultimately, people already said this one with the missile could have happened to any airline, even our dear SQ. so i doubt people can hold this against them. it would be unrealistic ...

 

Yah lor MH is very suay to kena 2 such devastating incidents within half a year.

[Duckduck]

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

 

thats from Russia TV controlled by moscow... they also blaming the CIA now lol...

 

anyway initial damage analysis seems to indicate shrapnels from a warhead instead of engine failure.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/21/world/europe/wreckage-offers-clues-on-why-flight-17-went-down.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&modref=HPGraphicRefer&module=a-lede-package-region&region=lede-package&WT.nav=lede-package

[Nlatio]

 

 

they are probably desperate now, maybe run out of funds and suppliers demand payment, no staff willing to work and maybe outstanding salaries, this is a dying company where they need a very strong financial reassurance to boost the morale to begin with.

 

 

 

like what was suspect initially, they probably mistook it as a russian plane (maybe thinking putin on it) lor

Wah then either the radar is those cheong one from China... buy 1 get 2 free... or the pilot got serious eyes problem.....

[Vega]

seriously, which ever country did this die die will not admit. the consequences imposed by the international communities is going to be unimaginable.

 

Wah then either the radar is those cheong one from China... buy 1 get 2 free... or the pilot got serious eyes problem.....

Radar from the US is not better. It mistook a friendly fighter and shot it down while the fighter returning to base from a mission.

[Jman888]

Malaysia Airlines MH17 crash: Victims possibly dead before take-off, says Ukraine rebel leader

PUBLISHED ON JUL 19, 2014

Commander and self-proclaimed minister of Defence of so the called "Donetsk People's Republic" Igor Girkin, aka Strelok (centre), has claimed that the victims of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH17 may have already been dead before the plane took off from Amsterdam on Thursday. -- PHOTO: AFP

PETALING JAYA (The Star/Asia News Network) - A top pro-Russia separatist leader has claimed that the victims of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH17 may have already been dead before the plane took off from Amsterdam on Thursday.

Rebel leader Igor Girkin is reported as having said that he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh".

He is quoted as having said in a post on social networking site Vkontakte, the second largest social network service in Europe after Facebook, that the bodies were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

Girkin, an alleged former Russian military intelligence agent, however, said he could not confirm the information.

Flight MH17 was en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport when it crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border on Thursday.

It was reported to have been shot down by pro-Russian separatists.

All 298 people onboard, including 15 crew members, are believed to have been killed.

 

 

[Mustank]

 

 

 

 

somebody should go cut this joker cock

Ukraine rebels hand over MH17 black boxes, call ceasefire

Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 08:23

AFP

DONETSK, Ukraine - Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine on Tuesday handed over two black boxes recovered from the crash site of the MH17 jet to Malaysian officials at a press conference.

RELATED STORIES

• Downing of MH17: All the latest reports

They also announced a ceasefire within a 10-kilometre radius around the crash site to allow international investigators to safely access the vast area where the Malaysia Airlines flight was downed Thursday.

"We have decided to hand the black boxes over to Malaysian experts," the prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Borodai, told journalists.

The Malaysian team of experts and representatives of the separatist group then signed a protocol before the bright orange boxes were handed over.

"On behalf of the Malaysian government I thank the government of the Donetsk Republic for handing us the two black boxes which are the property of Malaysia," said a member of the Malaysian team.

"We have not found the black boxes from flight MH370 (disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March), so are happy to be able to recover these.

"I see that the black boxes are intact with only minor damage."

One of the boxes will contain all conversation in the cockpit and another all flight data.

However, it is unclear how useful this will be in determining what happened to the flight, which is believed by Kiev and world leaders to have been shot down by a surface-to-air-missile.

The Russia-backed separatist rebels who control the area where the plane went down are suspected of having fired the missile, but they put the blame on the Ukrainian military.

There has been an outpouring of global outrage over lack of access to the site, and fears the rebels have tampered with evidence.

Borodai gave in to demands for a ceasefire to allow investigators full access to the site.

"We will order a ceasefire in a area of 10 kilometres around" the site of the disaster, which left 298 people dead, he said.

Malaysian officials were accompanying a refrigerated train transporting the remains of the passengers to the town of Kharkiv, controlled by the government in Kiev.

 

Photo Gallery:

Shocking carnage at east Ukraine flight MH17 crash site

[Camrysfa]

Bloomberg reporting MAS considering delisting.

[Babyt]

those people moving and clearing the bodies must have a hard time and furthermore the stench....

[Thaiyotakamli]

Not fresh? Of course la u rocket them, bomb them, still expect fresh ah? Chao da liao

Bloomberg reporting MAS considering delisting.

They should have done it so

 

Malaysia Airlines Diverts Plane Over Another War Zone After MH17 Crash

 

Malaysia Airlines diverted one of its planes from Ukraine to another war zone: Syria.

 

On Sunday, the airline re-routed its flight MH4 from Kuala Lumpur to London over Syrian airspace, after the Ukraine route was closed in the wake of Flight 17's downing last Thursday.

 

Flightradar24, a website that tracks the routes of airlines, shared an image via its Twitter account on Monday with the statement: "Malaysia Airlines flight MH4 (Airbus A380) flew over Syria yesterday."

 

After Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in eastern Ukraine, flights have avoided Ukranian airspace, and the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation (Eurocontrol) is rejecting flights over the area.

 

"All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by Eurocontrol. The routes will remain closed until further notice," the agency said on its website.

 

http://mashable.com/2014/07/21/malaysia-airlines-divert-syria-mh17/

 

I guess they will keep trying to find the shortest route lo ... ><

Expect their A380 kena shoot down in syria

[Xefera]

weiii....dont look down on the home made rocket hor.....Israeli so scared that they can hit Tel Aviv with those that they had to resort to using guided missile, F16, tanks and every other weaponry inntheir arsenal.

 

they have what is called the Iron Dome. Its like Patriot but at a smaller scale and indigenous.

 

Scared is a wrong word to use, but with a protective shield like this, they can achieve 2 aims.

1. allow Israelis to lead a normal live during raids.

2. push through the message that fighting back is the only way to achieve peace for the nation.

 

 

somebody should go cut this joker cock

Ukraine rebels hand over MH17 black boxes, call ceasefire

Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 08:23

AFP

DONETSK, Ukraine - Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine on Tuesday handed over two black boxes recovered from the crash site of the MH17 jet to Malaysian officials at a press conference.

RELATED STORIES

• Downing of MH17: All the latest reports

They also announced a ceasefire within a 10-kilometre radius around the crash site to allow international investigators to safely access the vast area where the Malaysia Airlines flight was downed Thursday.

"We have decided to hand the black boxes over to Malaysian experts," the prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Borodai, told journalists.

The Malaysian team of experts and representatives of the separatist group then signed a protocol before the bright orange boxes were handed over.

"On behalf of the Malaysian government I thank the government of the Donetsk Republic for handing us the two black boxes which are the property of Malaysia," said a member of the Malaysian team.

"We have not found the black boxes from flight MH370 (disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March), so are happy to be able to recover these.

"I see that the black boxes are intact with only minor damage."

One of the boxes will contain all conversation in the cockpit and another all flight data.

However, it is unclear how useful this will be in determining what happened to the flight, which is believed by Kiev and world leaders to have been shot down by a surface-to-air-missile.

The Russia-backed separatist rebels who control the area where the plane went down are suspected of having fired the missile, but they put the blame on the Ukrainian military.

There has been an outpouring of global outrage over lack of access to the site, and fears the rebels have tampered with evidence.

Borodai gave in to demands for a ceasefire to allow investigators full access to the site.

"We will order a ceasefire in a area of 10 kilometres around" the site of the disaster, which left 298 people dead, he said.

Malaysian officials were accompanying a refrigerated train transporting the remains of the passengers to the town of Kharkiv, controlled by the government in Kiev.

 

Photo Gallery:

Shocking carnage at east Ukraine flight MH17 crash site

 

 

Seems like Malaysia is the first country in the world to recognize this new Donetsk Republic by signing the agreement.