Sabian Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 Saw it too just now... and the 2 black boxes are yet to be found. hope they are not stolen or hidden by the Ukraine or Russians. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10975264/Problems-loom-for-investigators-as-Flight-MH17-black-box-may-be-in-Moscow.html www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/07/18/MH17-crash-Separatists-planning-to-move-MH17-black-box-to-Moscow/ ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 (edited) heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 Edited July 19, 2014 by Duckduck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 (edited) Putin done so much cruel deals to innocents, horsepeter will throw him out of his back and brings him to hospital's morgue *edit for you* . Edited July 19, 2014 by Toothiewabbit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duckduck Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 strangely enuff i just found this article which basically says the audio evidence cld b a fabrication... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 Saw it too just now... and the 2 black boxes are yet to be found. hope they are not stolen or hidden by the Ukraine or Russians.. Pls give some explanation and closure to the deceased's families.. Black box also useless bro, the pilot also dunno who shoot maybe will only record mentioning plane kena hit by SAM By the way is there a possibilities that USA instigated this and purposely created this incident to make Russia and Ukraine look bad? Since currently their relationship in tense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 Ukraine does not have such sophisticated Sam.. Only the pro Russia separatist had it and no prize for guessing it right who supply the weapon.. It require 4 person to work on it, with 6-9mths of training... It's not a simple aim and press button stuff... Let's put it this way, Russia wanted Ukraine, use this pro Russia separatist to whack Ukraine and supply all weapon from behind... Knn, I say if wanted a peaceful world, just inject this putin with aids... Let him die.. Black box also useless bro, the pilot also dunno who shoot maybe will only record mentioning plane kena hit by SAM By the way is there a possibilities that USA instigated this and purposely created this incident to make Russia and Ukraine look bad? Since currently their relationship in tense You watch too much American movies... Hehehe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 Ukraine does not have such sophisticated Sam.. Only the pro Russia separatist had it and no prize for guessing it right who supply the weapon.. It require 4 person to work on it, with 6-9mths of training... It's not a simple aim and press button stuff... Let's put it this way, Russia wanted Ukraine, use this pro Russia separatist to whack Ukraine and supply all weapon from behind... Knn, I say if wanted a peaceful world, just inject this putin with aids... Let him die.. You watch too much American movies... Hehehe U wont ever know what the big countries agendas and motives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 U wont ever know what the big countries agendas and motives. You might as well bring ah bui into the picture... Hehehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 You might as well bring ah bui into the picture... Hehehe Ah bui influence not like US. US can do what they want anywhere anytime. U don't know that they tap to ur phone, u don't know whats their next move. Its politics, and i guess the Cold War still ongoing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbringer 6th Gear July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 You need to exercise more discretion in what you consider to be "news" on the Internet, and what is purely gossip and rumours. As a rule of thumb, if a particular piece of information is only made available through one source, or multiple sources of a similar origin, it is not likely to be credible and does not qualify as "news". Whatever happened to not taking everything on the Internet at face value?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Bear Turbocharged July 19, 2014 Share July 19, 2014 heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 Their civil war aside, a country is ultimately responsible for their territory/ airspace including what ever that happens within. Given that the current Ukrainian government has effective lost control of certain part of their country, they should have shut down their airspace as they no longer have de facto control over those parts and the presence of weapons that has the capability to down a commercial airliner. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 Investigators are still being prevented from going into the crash site. Bodies are being moved by the separatists. Obviously, they have something to hide. Ukranian govt can't do a thing about it, unless they want to go in fighting there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 This is now like a crime scene where the police are being kept out, until the evidence is cleaned up and re-arranged to point to someone you don't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer 4th Gear July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 msia airline sibei suay... mh370 cannot find this one can find but cannot touch.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 Their civil war aside, a country is ultimately responsible for their territory/ airspace including what ever that happens within. Given that the current Ukrainian government has effective lost control of certain part of their country, they should have shut down their airspace as they no longer have de facto control over those parts and the presence of weapons that has the capability to down a commercial airliner. Except it was the whatever international aviation thingamabob that said the airspace was safe for travel.... naturally, the Ukrainian govt could have advised that they didn't think it safe - but really, who in their worst nightmares would ever imagine that anyone would be stupid enough to shoot down a commercial passenger plane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 (edited) heres a thought: the way ukraine has responded so quickly with all kinds of audio & visual evidence of russia's involvement in the incident makes me think that its almost like a v well planned event done by the ukraine themselves to put russia in a bind & make the rest of the world go after russia... i couldnt write a better action movie script... RIP MH17 You should listen to yourself... What about news that international investigators are being kept out of the crash area? What about news of bodies being moved by pro-russian forces and news that the black boxes might be whisked away to Russia? If they didn't do it, why are they preventing ppl from accessing the crash site and hindering investigation efforts? Are they trying to hide something? Or trying to get rid of missile residue/evidence? the SAM was apparently launched in a battle field so its v hard to prove who really fired that SAM... "The U.S. has admitted that they detected the radar emissions of what was most likely a SA-11 "Buk" missile system originating from the western side of the Russian-Ukraine border. American surveillance assets also detected the actual hot infrared plume of the missile's exhaust as it ascended toward its defenseless target, and its fiery aftermath. As for the detection of the missile in flight, its impact and MH17's crash into the ground, that was most certainly picked up by the Space Based Infra-Red System (SBIRS) and associated satellites. This technology was built as an early warning system aimed at detecting ballistic missile launches during the Cold War and has evolved ever since to become a key node in America's vast missile defense apparatus. One of its "off label" uses is rumored to be detection of SAM launches." heck now theres news abt ukraine jets near MH17 before it was shot down... news? or rumours? If jets were near MH, the MH pilots would have picked it up on their radar does not make sense if they didn't communicate to anyone on it. And IF USA REALLY wanted to shoot an innocent plane down to go create a war.... they would probably have you know, picked an american flight. Or a flight with americans on it. How about "news" of a SA-11 BUK being quickly spirited away back into Russia? (with 2 missiles missing) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V2XL4391CqM Edited July 20, 2014 by Mockngbrd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 20, 2014 Share July 20, 2014 (edited) dr m said mh370 missing could be also related to usa wor ... Ah bui influence not like US. US can do what they want anywhere anytime. U don't know that they tap to ur phone, u don't know whats their next move. Its politics, and i guess the Cold War still ongoing Edited July 20, 2014 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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