MAS Crashes in Ukraine - MH17

[L23]

those home made rockets can't reach the height commercial planes are traveling. that is why I think is safer than Ukraine.

In Ukraine, the rocket technology is in the 80s or 90s as compared to the more updated plane...

But then.. the rocket still can find their way to the butt of the plane...

 

So never estimate any rocket wor...

You never any rocket is coming after your butt now....

Edited July 21, 2014 by L23

[Vega]

In Ukraine, the rocket technology is in the 80s or 90s as compared to the more updated plane...

But then.. the rocket still can find their way to the butt of the plane...

 

So never estimate any rocket wor...

You never any rocket is coming after your butt now....

there is no way a home made rocket can home its way into a flying object in Gaza.

 

as in Ukraine, its a high tech missile. not those home made rockets.

 

Home made rockets

 

High tech SAM

[L23]

there is no way a home made rocket can home its way into a flying object in Gaza.

 

as in Ukraine, its a high tech missile. not those home made rockets.

 

Home made rockets

 

High tech SAM

 

Bro, your photo are very threatening to me leh...

Don't fire my butt leh...

[Evillusion]

there is no way a home made rocket can home its way into a flying object in Gaza.

 

as in Ukraine, its a high tech missile. not those home made rockets.

 

Home made rockets

 

High tech SAM

weiii....dont look down on the home made rocket hor.....Israeli so scared that they can hit Tel Aviv with those that they had to resort to using guided missile, F16, tanks and every other weaponry inntheir arsenal.

[Camrysfa]

reported today, footballers don't want to go back to Donetsk, the region where MH17 was downed:

 

 

Six Shakhtar Donetsk players have refused to return to the Ukraine after a pre-season friendly in France, according to reports.

The players missed their flight back and are currently AWOL in France, reports Canal+.

Five of the six players have been named and all of them are of South American nationality.

The French network are reporting that the players are refusing to return to the Ukraine because of the political turmoil in the country, of which Donetsk is heavily involved.

The five players who have been named are Brazilian's Douglas Costa, Fred, Dentinho, Alex Teixiera and Argentinian Facundo Ferreyra.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Camrysfa

[Vega]

weiii....dont look down on the home made rocket hor.....Israeli so scared that they can hit Tel Aviv with those that they had to resort to using guided missile, F16, tanks and every other weaponry inntheir arsenal.

but they can't hit high flying commercial planes mah.

[Camrysfa]

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David Cameron last night warned Vladimir Putin his billionaire ‘cronies’ will have their assets frozen in London unless he co-operates with the probe into Flight MH17.

[Evillusion]

but they can't hit high flying commercial planes mah.

hahaha.....lets hope so!

[Camrysfa]

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KIEV, July 21 ― Australian Air Chief Marshal (Rtd) Angus Houston, who headed the search for the missing Malaysian airliner MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean, is leading Australia's MH17 investigation and recovery operation.

[Nlatio]

there is no way a home made rocket can home its way into a flying object in Gaza.

 

as in Ukraine, its a high tech missile. not those home made rockets.

 

Home made rockets

 

High tech SAM

Got a saying... if people... in this case airline suay.... keep a bird also become chicken... fly song song also kena shot down by grenade....

[2BDriver]

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KIEV, July 21 ― Australian Air Chief Marshal (Rtd) Angus Houston, who headed the search for the missing Malaysian airliner MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean, is leading Australia's MH17 investigation and recovery operation.

Australian Team MH370 remain unchange to Probe MH17, how about Malaysia Team MH370 armed with the 2 coconuts joining force or not ?

- - - a cold war is brewing - - -

 

David Cameron last night warned Vladimir Putin his billionaire ‘cronies’ will have their assets frozen in London unless he co-operates with the probe into Flight MH17.

 

Putin is a strong dictator, as strong and aggressive than our homemade one, I don't think David Cameron can easily threaten him to bow.

[Vega]

Got a saying... if people... in this case airline suay.... keep a bird also become chicken... fly song song also kena shot down by grenade....

ya. this is pure suay-ness.

 

even the more advance SAM - Patriot missiles (which can identify friend of foe aircraft) also by mistake gun down their own fighter jets (1 FA-18 and 1 Tornado) before during Gulf war.

[Camrysfa]

Australian Team MH370 remain unchange to Probe MH17, how about Malaysia Team MH370 armed with the 2 coconuts joining force or not ?

Putin is a strong dictator, as strong and aggressive than our homemade one, I don't think David Cameron can easily threaten him to bow.

 

Seems MY again will take a backseat. OSCE and the Dutch has entered crash site and begun some checks. The Msian investigators no news?

 

Sad, aircraft is theirs but have to face it: leading an investigation team takes some expertise.

[Camrysfa]

 

Who is he ?

 

Send in Tom Cruise, "Mission Impossible" to do the job ....

 

 

hehe, don't bother looking for him in Donestke, he is Tom Cruise.

[Yeshe]

 

the kids onboard Mh17...

They are all with the Lord

[2BDriver]

They are all with the Lord

May God Bless All of Them rest in peace.

[Observer]

 

reported today, footballers don't want to go back to Donetsk, the region where MH17 was downed:

 

 

Six Shakhtar Donetsk players have refused to return to the Ukraine after a pre-season friendly in France, according to reports.

The players missed their flight back and are currently AWOL in France, reports Canal+.

Five of the six players have been named and all of them are of South American nationality.

The French network are reporting that the players are refusing to return to the Ukraine because of the political turmoil in the country, of which Donetsk is heavily involved.

The five players who have been named are Brazilian's Douglas Costa, Fred, Dentinho, Alex Teixiera and Argentinian Facundo Ferreyra.

 

 

the players thot money easy earn in russia?

- - - a cold war is brewing - - -

 

David Cameron last night warned Vladimir Putin his billionaire ‘cronies’ will have their assets frozen in London unless he co-operates with the probe into Flight MH17.

 

 

zai...good move..

 

wonder if those russian got park in singapore anot

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KIEV, July 21 ― Australian Air Chief Marshal (Rtd) Angus Houston, who headed the search for the missing Malaysian airliner MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean, is leading Australia's MH17 investigation and recovery operation.

 

jialat..havent find the missing one now must investigate crashed one.

[macrosszero]

This is what I mean by the other side of the coin:

 

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http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

 

“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.

In addition, MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’ missile systems, the Russian general said.

“We have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense was located in the southeast of the country,” Kartapolov noted.

The first three shots that were shown by the general are dated July 14. The images show Buk missile launch systems in about 8km northwest of the city of Lugansk – a TELAR and two TELs, according to the military official.

The question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the catastrophe, he stated.

Images taken on July 18 show that the missile systems left the area of the MH17 crash, the military official said.

Kartapolov also pointed to the fact that on the day of the plane crash Ukraine’s military increased activity on the part of Ukraine’s Kupol-M1 9S18 radars, which are part of the Buk system.

"..there were 7 radars operating on July 15, 8 radars operating on July 16, and 9 radars operating on July 17 in the area. Then, starting with July 18, the intensity of radar activities radically decreased, and now there are no more than two or three radars operating a day. The reason behind this is yet to be found."

In response to Moscow’s evidence, Kiev said on Monday it had proof the missile that brought down a Malaysian airliner last week came from Russia.

"There is evidence that the missile which struck the plane was fired by terrorists, who received arms and specialists from the Russian Federation," spokesman for Ukraine's Security Council Andrey Lysenko told a news conference. "To disown this tragedy, [Russia] are drawing a lot of pictures and maps. We will explore any photos and other plans produced by the Russian side."

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Monday that Kiev has “strong evidence” of the causes of the MH17 crash.

“We know exactly the place [the surface-to-air missile was] launched, we know exactly the place where it hit the civilian plane and the place where the plane crashed.”

Kiev is ready to hand the information to the international investigation commission, according to the presidential press-service.

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I'm not taking sides here, but both sides are digging in and not admitting guilt. Certainly a fair amount of conflicting information is obviously meant to confuse and obfuscate the truth. One could say that the Russians are protecting the evidence so that the Ukrainians can't pin the blame on the Russians or the separatists. Or the Ukrainians could say that the Russians have seized the evidence to tamper with it and thus hide the truth. Same situation and two ways to describe it. The more "evidence" is being presented, the higher the stakes get - because if the truth (and truth that is accepted by the international community) is proven one way or the other, the other party would be left out in the open having to explain how their "evidence" was manufactured to try to frame the other party.