Najib Announce VEP for Spore cars!

[Voodooman]

R u smoking pot....

Sinkie charge 35 sing to get my cars in each time for vep.

But only my govt foolishly charge their own locals to drive into sinkie.

The dumbest part n most arsed is now sinkieland also increase again.

 

The poor malaysians r worse pawned.. screwed left right center.

And pls lar what right does sinkie cars enjoy no vep rates at all

It looks like you are smoking, ranting on and on....

 

I hope MY charges RM50 VEP on SG car soon, if they think it will benefit them, it is their country, their economy, their rule. We can choose to stop going to MY just like MY cars can choose not to come in during peak hours.

 

So what is the justification to charge VEP on SG cars only? An eye for an eye?

Edited September 13, 2014 by Voodooman

[Zakkwylde]

It looks like you are smoking, ranting on and on....

 

I hope MY charges RM50 VEP on SG car soon, if they think it will benefit them, it is their country, their economy, their rule. We can choose to stop going to MY just like MY cars can choose not to come in during peak hours.

 

So what is the justification to charge VEP on SG cars only? An eye for an eye?

If you look at the bigger picture, only time will tell that the daily goods on the supermarket shelves will increase accordingly. Who's going to stop the inflation?

[Leclair]

It looks like you are smoking, ranting on and on....

 

I hope MY charges VEP on SG car soon, if they think it will benefit them, it is their country, their economy, their rule. We can choose to stop going to MY just like MY cars can choose not to come in during peak hours.

 

So what is the justification to charge VEP on SG cars only? An eye for an eye?

 

Justification ? its their country they do as they like. if anyone so decide that anyone who smokes does not enter his house, we have to respect that. No matter whether the man is gonna give him a million dollars if he can step into his house.

 

An eye for an eye? if there was no action from Sg, whats the likelihood of reaction from MY ?

 

SG did something stupid and doesnt work ( coe - high and depleting its people from more savings, causing business cost to increase ) and then try to cover up by increasing the Vep. thats so agonizing just by thinking about it.

 

As i said before, i shudders everything they try to come up with changes or new rules "for the better" and "for our future".

[thaiyotake331]

our government will have the last laugh.. more sporeans to stay in sg to spend.. better for sg economy..

msia government = bad guy

sg government = good guy with the winnings

[Deckbuild]

 

Justification ? its their country they do as they like. if anyone so decide that anyone who smokes does not enter his house, we have to respect that. No matter whether the man is gonna give him a million dollars if he can step into his house.

 

An eye for an eye? if there was no action from Sg, whats the likelihood of reaction from MY ?

 

SG did something stupid and doesnt work ( coe - high and depleting its people from more savings, causing business cost to increase ) and then try to cover up by increasing the Vep. thats so agonizing just by thinking about it.

 

As i said before, i shudders everything they try to come up with changes or new rules "for the better" and "for our future".

Do you know that most MY that drives in are not affected by the VEP? Do you know even if they are affected, they have multiple cars to avoid paying? And even best, they still can ride bike into sg for free?

 

I used to have ex colleagues driving their M5 and other flashy cars into sg daily. One car used up 10 days, drive another car in, all his 5 cars used up 50 days, drive his relatives cars in. Are they affected? Not very much, MY side decided to suck fron both side, you ask me affected or not? Yes very much, and they kill their own business as well.

[Glyuen]

I think what he meant is the PRICE of the COE does not affect the car population. It is the QUOTA or number of COEs released that is important.

 

If I have 100 COEs released

 

Everyone pays $1, the car population increases by 100 only

Everyone pays $ 1,000,000, the car population increases by 100 only

 

So what you pay does not matter. It is the quota that matters. The govt could have chosen to fix the price of the COE at $1 and used other means to disseminate the COEs but they chose the path that earns them the most money.

 

With COEs at such high prices, anyone from Malaysia can drive in with their car. Even if they pay the VEP of $35 a day, it is $3500 for every hundred days. For ease of calaulation, minusing the weekends and the public holidays, they will spend $7000 a year on VEPs or $70,000 for 10 years (which is close to our current COE) and that is assuming they consistently come in to Singapore during peak hours at a rate of 200 trips a year.

 

So the COE does not control the car population in Singapore also, just the number of people who can own cars and it is the quota that matters, not the money you pay. If you are willing to pay more, it still depends if there are more people willing to pay more than you. If you pay $1,000,000 for a COE and everyone is willing to pay $1,000,001, you still have no car.

 

Hope it clarifies.

There's no equitable means of distributing the coe that pleases everyone.

 

We're a capitalist economy. Fact of life: money talks. Even in socialist countries like China ñ Russia.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Glyuen

[Deckbuild]

our government will have the last laugh.. more sporeans to stay in sg to spend.. better for sg economy..

msia government = bad guy

sg government = good guy with the winnings

Good isnt it? If someone dont appreciate our business, so be it.

[Jansonchua]

our government will have the last laugh.. more sporeans to stay in sg to spend.. better for sg economy..

msia government = bad guy

sg government = good guy with the winnings

Our government have the last laugh but we are wallowing in pain... We are denied the most convenient place to de stress ourselves so what's there to laugh about???!!!

[Deckbuild]

Our government have the last laugh but we are wallowing in pain... We are denied the most convenient place to de stress ourselves so what's there to laugh about???!!!

Denied? Just pay slighty more only, dont say till they trap you in SG leh, you can also take bus in if you like.

[Leclair]

Do you know that most MY that drives in are not affected by the VEP? Do you know even if they are affected, they have multiple cars to avoid paying? And even best, they still can ride bike into sg for free?

 

I used to have ex colleagues driving their M5 and other flashy cars into sg daily. One car used up 10 days, drive another car in, all his 5 cars used up 50 days, drive his relatives cars in. Are they affected? Not very much, MY side decided to suck fron both side, you ask me affected or not? Yes very much, and they kill their own business as well.

 

honestly i dont know that. everytime i see a My car at the customs, 90 out of 100 are BnB cars. how many of them have 5 cars to rotate ?

 

if what you said is true, then you have proved that Sg has tried to cover COE scheme by the VEP which still failed. They are still coming in.

 

My point was for malaysians who drive in , in carpool, to Sg to work every single day. Contributing to our economy.

 

You sound like i am trying to defend My. I am really not.

If you dont poke the hornets' nest, will the hornets sting you? well maybe you will get stung regardless but the chances are far lesser.

 

I posted before somewhere: With two governments like we have, who needs enemies?

 

We were miserable enough, and now it feels we are numb already.

[Glyuen]

JOHOR BARU - The Johor state government wants Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd (KTMB) to increase its rail service across the Causeway to hourly trips, as an alternative for commuters burdened by new toll fares at the Singapore checkpoint.

State Domestic Trade, Consumerism and Tourism committee chairman Datuk Tee Siew Kiong said this would also give Malaysians driving into Singapore daily for work a chance to switch to public transport.

"This could also have a positive impact on the traffic congestion at the Causeway as there will be fewer cars on the road," he said in a press conference here on Saturday.

He was commenting on a statement released by Singapore's Land Transport Authority (LTA) that toll charges at the republic's side of the Causeway would be increased five-fold from Oct 1.

- See more at: http://transport.asiaone.com/news/general/story/causeway-toll-hike-johor-wants-hourly-rail-service-singapore#sthash.dOStj7hY.dpuf

 

This is one possible good thing that comes out of the toll price war. Public transport is a more efficient means to move the masses.

[Ticklish8]

Let me give an observation, especially for someone who frequently drive to JB. This is some of the effect of the toll.

 

1) More are car pooling. If you observe JB car now coming in to Singapore, usually there is more than 1 driver. More often than not, usually there is 4 per car.

 

2) More are switching to motorcyle. My motor kaki says the wait at the Causeway have now increase at least half an hour more because there is more motorcyclist.

 

3) More are taking public transport. Since public transport can't cope with the surge, you see more Malaysian WALKING at the Causeway expecially during peak hours.

 

4) School buses ferrying Msian and Spore kids to schools in Singapore have increase their monthly fare on average RM50 per month.

 

5) For Singaporean who frequently go to JB, they have reduce their trip substantially or totally stop going to JB. For those who still go there to top up petrol or shopping, you will see their boots filled to the brim..... To make it worthwhile

 

6) JB businesses as reported is affected.

 

7) With reduce workloads, ICA booth at most 3-5 are open... Usually during peak period or busy period, they open up more booth.

 

 

 

 

[Jman888]

 

honestly i dont know that. everytime i see a My car at the customs, 90 out of 100 are BnB cars. how many of them have 5 cars to rotate ?

 

if what you said is true, then you have proved that Sg has tried to cover COE scheme by the VEP which still failed. They are still coming in.

 

My point was for malaysians who drive in , in carpool, to Sg to work every single day. Contributing to our economy.

 

You sound like i am trying to defend My. I am really not.

If you dont poke the hornets' nest, will the hornets sting you? well maybe you will get stung regardless but the chances are far lesser.

 

I posted before somewhere: With two governments like we have, who needs enemies?

 

We were miserable enough, and now it feels we are numb already.

 

You sound like you are badly affected by these increase, are you staying in JB and travel to Singapore to work everyday?

[Voodooman]

If you look at the bigger picture, only time will tell that the daily goods on the supermarket shelves will increase accordingly. Who's going to stop the inflation?

Malaysian producers can't increase prices happily as they have to compete with imports from countries like Indonesia, China, etc. You will be surprised to know many imported stuff cost more in MY than in SG, a free port with excellent connectivity. We can't stop profiteering behavior, but we can diverisify and make sure we have options to buy elsewhere.

 

Anyway, the stupid inflation in SG is self inflicted (JTC, REIT, mark to market policy, privatization of public goods, etc.) and with the "discount" given to MY truckers and bikers, we should not see significant increases in prices of imported goods.

 

There is currently no viable alternative to the much hated COE system but should we allow more people to arbitrage the system? ie. expat, MYsians who take to driving cheap MY cars into SG if the VEP is not adjusted, laughing at our 80k COE while we suck thumb one corner?

 

I only pity those Singaporeans who bought into the JB dream, thinking they have uncovered a once in a century opportunity of living JB and working SG, only to be disappointed by the recent change but that is just a risk all investors have to bear in mind when dealing with any arbitrage plays.

You sound like you are badly affected by these increase, are you staying in JB and travel to Singapore to work everyday?

I have the exact same thought.

[Meanmachine]

 

Justification ? its their country they do as they like. if anyone so decide that anyone who smokes does not enter his house, we have to respect that. No matter whether the man is gonna give him a million dollars if he can step into his house.

 

An eye for an eye? if there was no action from Sg, whats the likelihood of reaction from MY ?

 

SG did something stupid and doesnt work ( coe - high and depleting its people from more savings, causing business cost to increase ) and then try to cover up by increasing the Vep. thats so agonizing just by thinking about it.

 

As i said before, i shudders everything they try to come up with changes or new rules "for the better" and "for our future".

 

Fully agreed with you on the nonsense on COE, due to land scarify and unrealistic car population control by authority, we are kidding ourselves on paying such stupid paper juz to keep Gahmen happy.

 

Look are us, so many used car dealers , why izzit so ? so simple, easy money t make, Where is the regulation for used car dealers, who control them and how is so many complaint against car dealers cheating buyers and non-committal of service,running away form deposit etc . . .

 

Open your eyes wide and search within, do away with COE, it does not makes us #1, a poor man soon loses all his money to the rich and the rich are the shameless idiot who pounces on the poor.

 

A day will come to see who is right vs wrong. Wake up !

[Alantan1978]

A dumb move by Najib that will hurt the Malaysia's Tourism. With MH370, MH17, Increased causeway toll, we shall see how much drop in number of tourists you have into Malaysia. Those who have property in JB, better sell it and return to Singapore before their economy sinks even further.

[Icedbs]

 

JOHOR BARU - The Johor state government wants Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd (KTMB) to increase its rail service across the Causeway to hourly trips, as an alternative for commuters burdened by new toll fares at the Singapore checkpoint.

State Domestic Trade, Consumerism and Tourism committee chairman Datuk Tee Siew Kiong said this would also give Malaysians driving into Singapore daily for work a chance to switch to public transport.

"This could also have a positive impact on the traffic congestion at the Causeway as there will be fewer cars on the road," he said in a press conference here on Saturday.

He was commenting on a statement released by Singapore's Land Transport Authority (LTA) that toll charges at the republic's side of the Causeway would be increased five-fold from Oct 1.

- See more at: http://transport.asiaone.com/news/general/story/causeway-toll-hike-johor-wants-hourly-rail-service-singapore#sthash.dOStj7hY.dpuf

 

This is one possible good thing that comes out of the toll price war. Public transport is a more efficient means to move the masses.

 

 

I am already taking buses to go JB and back. I find it faster and obviously cheaper. The bus queue on the causeway is pretty short.

 

And if the bus queue is also darn long, can always zzzz..... on the bus.

 

No stress, no worries on car wear and tear, no worries on toll charges. Make me wonder why everyone still wants to drive in. And when I reach JB, I can easily take cab to anywhere at very reasonable taxi rates.

 

 

[Xefera]

will be interesting to see how this toll charges thing will affect the voting results in the next MY GE.

 

Possible that Johor will fall also and a win for PKT?