Maid abuse: Couple face more charges

[Evillusion]

those baby bonus and stuff ... vapourizes or evaporates damn fast.. its not hard cash where you can buy milk tins (I was told) mostly medical only ...

 

Something like Merc C&C giving out those thousands credits....... will finish by year 2 already...... after that you are on your own

 

Like what they said........ no free Lunch

My daughter's time the gov will top up dollar for dollar up to $2.5-3k where the account will have about $5-6k at the 7th yr and can be withdrawn fully. I did that for her.......

[13177]

when you ask a staff wait for you until you call/text him ...

he probably go kopitiam lim kopi, mcdonald to enjoy aircon or atas coffee at SB/CBTL playing phone

 

when you ask a maid to wait for you "outside" ... there is not much option for the maid

must standby near where you shout or whistle to call the maid

 

and maid (unless very season type) has inferior feeling, they wont sit next to uncle/auntie if there are sitting area there

hence, they have to find their own place to squat

Thats the problem, when other people see they would assume maid abuse?! 

[BanCoe]

I've lost touch with this Baby Bonus $ for $ thingy and it goes to another account afterthat like how Edusave balance goes to CPF or something like that . Maybe newly minted fathers or to be fathers like @radx  will know better   

 

    

My daughter's time the gov will top up dollar for dollar up to $2.5-3k where the account will have about $5-6k at the 7th yr and can be withdrawn fully. I did that for her.......

 

[Evillusion]

I've lost touch with this Baby Bonus $ for $ thingy and it goes to another account afterthat like how Edusave balance goes to CPF or something like that . Maybe newly minted fathers or to be fathers like @radx will know better

Ya...me too! Not in my handbook anymore since my kids all above 10 years old...

[Angcheek]

Ya...me too! Not in my handbook anymore since my kids all above 10 years old...ððð.

Ur kids so young

[Angcheek]

I've lost touch with this Baby Bonus $ for $ thingy and it goes to another account afterthat like how Edusave balance goes to CPF or something like that . Maybe newly minted fathers or to be fathers like @radx will know better

Ai yo thats easy to solve ... just pop afew out

[Evillusion]

Ur kids so young ðð

My son 26 this November and my daughter will be 14 this september 16.....we always disturb her about her birthday..

[Mkl22]

Maybe you are right. Employer asked the maid to wait outside, maybe no asked her to squat or sit on the pavement. Maid herself choose to squat or sit there?    Now have to listen to the maid part of her story what have actually happens?    We are simply just guessing or assume only.

 

ya agreed. the ignorant ang mo thinks he knows it all. its very common and normal for the people of the countries around us to sit or squat by the kerb or pavement. nothing wrong with that. always imposing their own  shortsightedness...

[Galantspeedz]

Siao liao if ang mo see a bunch of ah bengs and ah lians squatting at shopping centre, sure think is a bunch of malnourished teens being abused

[Voodooman]

Siao liao if ang mo see a bunch of ah bengs and ah lians squatting at shopping centre, sure think is a bunch of malnourished teens being abused

This case can confirm not abuse. Can also confirm i don't need an angmo to tell me i should ask my helper to join me at the dining table while we dine (i know many families don't do that as they treat the maid as an "employee"). Edited January 26, 2019 by Voodooman

[D3badge]

only husband and wife in the house need 2 maids? 

 

i think the couple a bit 变态！

  and the news say a flat in yishun! 2 maid for 2 person in a flat? wow

[Kusje]

This case can confirm not abuse. Can also confirm i don't need an angmo to tell me i should ask my helper to join me at the dining table while we dine (i know many families don't do that as they treat the maid as an "employee").

Ang mo full of Bs lah.

 

Do you see Alfred being seated with batman for dinner?

[Voodooman]

Ang mo full of Bs lah.

 

Do you see Alfred being seated with batman for dinner?

Yup. Full of angmo class bulls**t.

[Mahjong74]

Jail for couple who punched, forced maid to drink dirty mop water

 

SINGAPORE — A husband and wife were sentenced to jail on Monday (Feb 11) for abusing their domestic helper by, among other things, making her drink dirty water mixed with dog hair and a floor cleaning agent.

Linda Seah Lei Sie, a 39-year-old beauty salon manager who was convicted of six charges, was sentenced to three years in jail for instigating most of the abuses.

 

She had told Myanmar national Phyu Phyu Mar to knock her head hard against the kitchen floor, saying that the maid agency had ordered it, and grabbed the helper’s hair so forcefully that a chunk of it fell out.

Seah was separately ordered to pay the victim S$11,800 in compensation, of which S$9,000 was to make up for her pain and suffering, while the remaining S$2,800 was to account for her loss of income over four months.

Seah’s husband Lim Toon Leng, a 44-year-old interior designer, was convicted of one charge of punching the helper twice on her forehead and was sentenced to six weeks’ jail.

 

Lawyers of the Singaporean couple, who claimed trial for their charges, told the court their clients will be appealing against their conviction and sentencing.

The couple was granted a stay of execution pending their appeal.

Seah’s bail amount was bumped up from S$10,000 to S$15,000 and she had to surrender her passport to prevent her from leaving the country.

Lim’s bail amount remains at S$5,000.

Ms Phyu Phyu Mar, whose age is not known, was hired in February 2016 to take care of the couple’s daughter, now aged seven, in their Punggol flat, and accompany Seah to the beauty salon a few times a week.

She was attacked between August and October that year.

Among other abuses, Seah had forced the maid to pour scalding hot water on her own shoulders on two occasions, then gave her a needle to puncture the blisters that had developed, instead of taking her to seek medical attention.

Seah had also used her mobile phone to hit the helper multiple times on her head, eye and hand.

 

AGGRAVATING FACTORS

 

District Judge Olivia Low said Seah’s acts demanded a more severe sentencing as they were “calculated” and had brought psychological as well as physical harm to Ms Phyu Phyu Mar.

Seah had also continued to show a “clear lack of remorse” throughout the 16-day trial, the judge noted.

“By asking the victim to pour hot water on herself, or telling the victim that the agency had asked for the victim to knock her head on the floor, Linda hoped to avoid blame for the injuries suffered by the victim,” said District Judge Low.

She added: “Linda’s unhappiness with the victim’s work should not justify any form of violence against the victim.”

In sentencing Seah, District Judge Low also considered five aggravating factors which were not tied to the charges she faced:

• Ms Phyu Phyu Mar was “denied food” such that her weight had plummeted from 50kg to 38kg by October 2016. The maid had testified that she was given only biscuits and sometimes uncooked noodles that were dipped in cold water. Seah argued during the trial that the maid had wanted to slim down.

• The maid was not paid her salary throughout her employment, and only received her pay in November 2016 after the Ministry of Manpower intervened.

• Seah had “constantly threatened” to report the maid to the police, causing the victim to live in fear.

• Seah took steps to isolate the maid by discouraging her from interacting with the staff at the beauty salon, Anew Me Beauty Aesthetics.

• Seah told the maid to lie to the police even after investigations began. The court heard that Seah had instructed the victim to tell four officers that she got her bruises from falling down while cleaning.

In seeking a lighter sentence for Seah on Monday, defence lawyer Ragbir Singh Bajwa said Seah’s presence in her daughter’s life is “crucial” as the girl, now a Primary Two pupil at Raffles Girls’ Primary School, is “solely reliant” on her for day-to-day needs.

He noted that Seah had no issues with two other domestic helpers whom she had engaged before Ms Phyu Phyu Mar.

One of them worked for her for about three-and-a-half years with “no allegations of impropriety”, he said.

Mr Bajwa added that the couple “did take steps to medicate” the maid by giving her a “sterilised” needle to poke the blisters on her arm caused by the scalding water.

 

THE PROSECUTION ARGUES

 

But Deputy Public Prosecutor Sarah Shi argued that this should not be considered as a mitigating factor as the needle only caused additional pain.

Ms Shi urged the court to take into account the lasting trauma inflicted on the maid, citing the victim’s impact statement which was recorded on Jan 31 this year.

In it, Ms Phyu Phyu Mar said she was scared to continue working as a domestic worker because she thinks she might be abused again.

“The protection of domestic maids from abuse by their employers is a matter of public interest, given their vulnerable status and the prevalence of such relationships in Singapore,” Ms Shi wrote in her sentencing submission.

For each charge of voluntarily causing hurt to a maid, the couple could have been jailed up to three years and fined up to S$7,500.

For causing hurt by means of poison, Seah could have been jailed up to 10 years, fined and caned.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/jail-terms-couple-who-punched-forced-maid-drink-dirty-mop-water

 

To summarise

 

wife sentenced to 3 years jail

 

husband sentenced to 6 weeks jail

[WangWang888]

Jail for couple who punched, forced maid to drink dirty mop water

 

SINGAPORE â A husband and wife were sentenced to jail on Monday (Feb 11) for abusing their domestic helper by, among other things, making her drink dirty water mixed with dog hair and a floor cleaning agent.

Linda Seah Lei Sie, a 39-year-old beauty salon manager who was convicted of six charges, was sentenced to three years in jail for instigating most of the abuses.

She had told Myanmar national Phyu Phyu Mar to knock her head hard against the kitchen floor, saying that the maid agency had ordered it, and grabbed the helperâs hair so forcefully that a chunk of it fell out.

Seah was separately ordered to pay the victim S$11,800 in compensation, of which S$9,000 was to make up for her pain and suffering, while the remaining S$2,800 was to account for her loss of income over four months.

Seahâs husband Lim Toon Leng, a 44-year-old interior designer, was convicted of one charge of punching the helper twice on her forehead and was sentenced to six weeksâ jail.

Lawyers of the Singaporean couple, who claimed trial for their charges, told the court their clients will be appealing against their conviction and sentencing.

The couple was granted a stay of execution pending their appeal.

Seahâs bail amount was bumped up from S$10,000 to S$15,000 and she had to surrender her passport to prevent her from leaving the country.

Limâs bail amount remains at S$5,000.

Ms Phyu Phyu Mar, whose age is not known, was hired in February 2016 to take care of the coupleâs daughter, now aged seven, in their Punggol flat, and accompany Seah to the beauty salon a few times a week.

She was attacked between August and October that year.

Among other abuses, Seah had forced the maid to pour scalding hot water on her own shoulders on two occasions, then gave her a needle to puncture the blisters that had developed, instead of taking her to seek medical attention.

Seah had also used her mobile phone to hit the helper multiple times on her head, eye and hand.

AGGRAVATING FACTORS

District Judge Olivia Low said Seahâs acts demanded a more severe sentencing as they were âcalculatedâ and had brought psychological as well as physical harm to Ms Phyu Phyu Mar.

Seah had also continued to show a âclear lack of remorseâ throughout the 16-day trial, the judge noted.

âBy asking the victim to pour hot water on herself, or telling the victim that the agency had asked for the victim to knock her head on the floor, Linda hoped to avoid blame for the injuries suffered by the victim,â said District Judge Low.

She added: âLindaâs unhappiness with the victimâs work should not justify any form of violence against the victim.â

In sentencing Seah, District Judge Low also considered five aggravating factors which were not tied to the charges she faced:

• Ms Phyu Phyu Mar was âdenied foodâ such that her weight had plummeted from 50kg to 38kg by October 2016. The maid had testified that she was given only biscuits and sometimes uncooked noodles that were dipped in cold water. Seah argued during the trial that the maid had wanted to slim down.

• The maid was not paid her salary throughout her employment, and only received her pay in November 2016 after the Ministry of Manpower intervened.

• Seah had âconstantly threatenedâ to report the maid to the police, causing the victim to live in fear.

• Seah took steps to isolate the maid by discouraging her from interacting with the staff at the beauty salon, Anew Me Beauty Aesthetics.

• Seah told the maid to lie to the police even after investigations began. The court heard that Seah had instructed the victim to tell four officers that she got her bruises from falling down while cleaning.

In seeking a lighter sentence for Seah on Monday, defence lawyer Ragbir Singh Bajwa said Seahâs presence in her daughterâs life is âcrucialâ as the girl, now a Primary Two pupil at Raffles Girlsâ Primary School, is âsolely reliantâ on her for day-to-day needs.

He noted that Seah had no issues with two other domestic helpers whom she had engaged before Ms Phyu Phyu Mar.

One of them worked for her for about three-and-a-half years with âno allegations of improprietyâ, he said.

Mr Bajwa added that the couple âdid take steps to medicateâ the maid by giving her a âsterilisedâ needle to poke the blisters on her arm caused by the scalding water.

THE PROSECUTION ARGUES

But Deputy Public Prosecutor Sarah Shi argued that this should not be considered as a mitigating factor as the needle only caused additional pain.

Ms Shi urged the court to take into account the lasting trauma inflicted on the maid, citing the victimâs impact statement which was recorded on Jan 31 this year.

In it, Ms Phyu Phyu Mar said she was scared to continue working as a domestic worker because she thinks she might be abused again.

âThe protection of domestic maids from abuse by their employers is a matter of public interest, given their vulnerable status and the prevalence of such relationships in Singapore,â Ms Shi wrote in her sentencing submission.

For each charge of voluntarily causing hurt to a maid, the couple could have been jailed up to three years and fined up to S$7,500.

For causing hurt by means of poison, Seah could have been jailed up to 10 years, fined and caned.

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/jail-terms-couple-who-punched-forced-maid-drink-dirty-mop-water

 

To summarise

 

wife sentenced to 3 years jail

 

husband sentenced to 6 weeks jail

The wife damn fierce seah....

[Victor68]

when you ask a staff wait for you until you call/text him ...

he probably go kopitiam lim kopi, mcdonald to enjoy aircon or atas coffee at SB/CBTL playing phone

 

when you ask a maid to wait for you "outside" ... there is not much option for the maid

must standby near where you shout or whistle to call the maid

 

and maid (unless very season type) has inferior feeling, they wont sit next to uncle/auntie if there are sitting area there

hence, they have to find their own place to squat

That is where the employer should always consider for his maid. Can he leave her at home if he can't bring her in? Alternatively, can he bring her somewhere nearby so that she could wait so that he could find her when he is finished? Always put yourself in her shoes and you would know what is best for her. I won't consider this an abuse but inconsiderate.

[Kusje]

3 years jail only?

 

Wa Kai, SG laws really weak

[ER-3682]

3 years jail only?

 

Wa Kai, SG laws really weak

Minus Weekends & Holidays..2 Years....only.