Hackers hijack Find My iPhone\Apple Privacy

[Sabian]

  On 1/28/2016 at 4:32 AM, RadX said:

somehow i get a diff experience le

 

when der are any overseas transactions that appear to be fraudulent, i will get a call from UOB immed.  They stop the transaction and send me a replacement card WITHIN THE DAY.

Your case different lah. Yours bo OTP involved mah.

 

VISA/ Mastercard rules will be in your favour so UOB jit tao tell the merchant's bank that billed you to fxxk off since physical card was not present and no OTP issued.

  On 1/27/2016 at 7:32 AM, Sp4wn said:

UOB sucks balls la. last time my cc kena hijack ... used in spain to book hotel room etc and spent a few hundred euro. i had already notified  them a week ago when i receive 2 mysterious otp sms ... and when i reported this, at first they told me i am liable, i was like wtf ... im in sg, and just few days ago i informed you there may be something suspicious? 

 

they said they will hold me liable for the full amount regardless, until they can verify it wasnt me who spent the money (even when i say i can show my passport).

 

long story short, these idiots refunded my money after 3 months ... when i how they come to that conclusion i wasnt there, they say confidential, cannot say.

 

thank god i made dbs my primary bank after that. 

You may be the first few to kena so the bank might bit overcautious in not accepting liability and they usually buy time this way and when more and more cases come flooding through, they refund you because it starts to look like a trend.

 

If you were with DBS at that point in time, their reaction will also likely be the same.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Sabian

[Darryn]

We had a shitty experience with stand chart. I ended up complain to MAS to sort it out.

 

Cancelled accounts after that.

[ins1dious]

  On 1/28/2016 at 12:04 PM, Darryn said:

We had a shitty experience with stand chart. I ended up complain to MAS to sort it out.

 

Cancelled accounts after that.

 

ha... in my case... I had collected about 350k reward points with my StanChart card over 3 years... they were due to expire on 31-Dec-2015... me all happy about the Bangkok Spa experience in JB so forgot about it.

 

Only realised after missus came back on 3rd Jan 2016 and asked me if I'd redeemed the expiring points for her Robinsons shopping 

 

Lots of scoldings for me that day   as these points were worth about $1,400... and it pisses a woman off more if she's denied a free deal.

 

Spoke to their customer service, they said they can put back 100k points... me cry some more... tell her I'll have to sleep in sofa, yada yada... she finally relented and said she will make a request.

 

They put back all the points in a week. Which is pretty decent thing for them to do 

[Blueray]

  On 1/28/2016 at 6:26 AM, Watwheels said:

I also kenna fraudulent use of my uob cc too. 3 transactions amounting to around 3K uk pounds. At 11+pm. I was already asleep. Saw the sms that the transaction was made in the morning when I woke up. Call the cc center to inform them they quickly froze the transaction, cancelled my cc and refunded the money full the next work day. This happened last year. I was issued with a new card the following week. Very efficient I would say.

 

I feel that this dude is not telling the whole story.

 

I agree, banks quite on with suspected fraudulent credit card transactions these days and I have gone thru the fraud reporting process with 2 local banks myself.

 

This guy's story not quite complete to me too ...

[Ttl1976]

  On 1/28/2016 at 5:55 AM, Lala81 said:

UOB is still my preferred bank.

Shorter queue than POSB/DBS or OCBC.

 

They did once call me and tell me that u have X digits inside your bank account, why don't you use it for some investment purposes.

I told them, if u ever call me again about how much $ i have in my bank account, i will immediately withdraw and close all my bank accounts with your bank.

Never got a call from them again ever after that.

Wow.....

U r elite then.

:)

 

I always get call from banks too.

Cos i always owe them money....

 

Ha ha ha

[RadX]

Will Tim Cook's privacy stance win or lose customers for Apple?

• Posted 19 Feb 2016 09:20

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SAN FRANCISCO: Apple Inc Chief Executive Tim Cook's refusal to comply with the U.S. government's request to unlock an iPhone of one of the San Bernardino, California attackers drew strong reaction from critics and supporters this week, but is unclear how the decision will affect potential buyers of the company's products.

In an open letter to customers, Cook vowed to fight a court order from a Los Angeles judge to provide "reasonable technical assistance" to investigators wanting access to the phone of Rizwan Farook, a shooter in the San Bernardino attack that killed 14. Cook said complying with the government's request would set a dangerous precedent that could ultimately undermine the security of its iPhones.

Users supporting and opposing Apple's position flooded Twitter with rival hashtags #thankyouapple and #boycottapple and Facebook users wrote lengthy posts on the move.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey tweeted his support for Cook on Thursday, joining groups like Amnesty International in applauding Cook's stance. Conservative pundit Ann Coulter was among Cook's many critics, suggesting in a social media post that Apple made the move "for PR" purposes.

Branding expert Allen Adamson, founder of Brand Simple Consulting, praised Cook's forthright note to customers.

"Corporate leaders are better off having a very clear, principled view that customers can either agree or disagree with rather than having ambiguity and lack of clarity as to what the company stands for," said Adamson, whose New York-based firm advises companies on volatile branding matters.

Adamson and other branding experts said Cook's open letter was important in getting ahead of the debate, even if its users do not necessarily support the company's decision.

Apple has come under fire from Republican lawmakers and presidential candidates like Donald Trump, but the company has also rallied support among privacy advocates.

"This is a lightning rod issue in the country right now and it is hugely emotional and polarizing. It is still unclear how it will connect with consumers," said Adamson.

Other analysts also pointed to Apple's brand power as a likely shield against any immediate backlash from consumers. A recent survey of 44,000 consumers by branding consulting firm Brand Keys Inc found the company leading other major tech brands in virtually all categories from devices to services on customer engagement and loyalty.

"They have an extraordinary high level of emotional engagement with consumers," said Brand Keys president Robert Passikoff.

A steady stream of customers visited the Apple store in downtown San Francisco on Thursday, and shoppers seemed unfazed by the controversy.

"I buy from Apple because of the product quality. This doesn't affect our decision to buy from them," said Esther Stearns, a retired tech worker.

(Reporting by Mari Saito; Additional reporting by Julia Love; Editing by Bernard Orr)

 

[Mustank]

  On 2/19/2016 at 1:51 AM, RadX said:

 

Will Tim Cook's privacy stance win or lose customers for Apple?

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SAN FRANCISCO: Apple Inc Chief Executive Tim Cook's refusal to comply with the U.S. government's request to unlock an iPhone of one of the San Bernardino, California attackers drew strong reaction from critics and supporters this week, but is unclear how the decision will affect potential buyers of the company's products.

In an open letter to customers, Cook vowed to fight a court order from a Los Angeles judge to provide "reasonable technical assistance" to investigators wanting access to the phone of Rizwan Farook, a shooter in the San Bernardino attack that killed 14. Cook said complying with the government's request would set a dangerous precedent that could ultimately undermine the security of its iPhones.

Users supporting and opposing Apple's position flooded Twitter with rival hashtags #thankyouapple and #boycottapple and Facebook users wrote lengthy posts on the move.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey tweeted his support for Cook on Thursday, joining groups like Amnesty International in applauding Cook's stance. Conservative pundit Ann Coulter was among Cook's many critics, suggesting in a social media post that Apple made the move "for PR" purposes.

Branding expert Allen Adamson, founder of Brand Simple Consulting, praised Cook's forthright note to customers.

"Corporate leaders are better off having a very clear, principled view that customers can either agree or disagree with rather than having ambiguity and lack of clarity as to what the company stands for," said Adamson, whose New York-based firm advises companies on volatile branding matters.

Adamson and other branding experts said Cook's open letter was important in getting ahead of the debate, even if its users do not necessarily support the company's decision.

Apple has come under fire from Republican lawmakers and presidential candidates like Donald Trump, but the company has also rallied support among privacy advocates.

"This is a lightning rod issue in the country right now and it is hugely emotional and polarizing. It is still unclear how it will connect with consumers," said Adamson.

Other analysts also pointed to Apple's brand power as a likely shield against any immediate backlash from consumers. A recent survey of 44,000 consumers by branding consulting firm Brand Keys Inc found the company leading other major tech brands in virtually all categories from devices to services on customer engagement and loyalty.

"They have an extraordinary high level of emotional engagement with consumers," said Brand Keys president Robert Passikoff.

A steady stream of customers visited the Apple store in downtown San Francisco on Thursday, and shoppers seemed unfazed by the controversy.

"I buy from Apple because of the product quality. This doesn't affect our decision to buy from them," said Esther Stearns, a retired tech worker.

(Reporting by Mari Saito; Additional reporting by Julia Love; Editing by Bernard Orr)

 

 

that time hidemyass the VPN provider faced the same problem

http://www.thewire.com/technology/2011/09/lulzsec-hacker-exposed-service-he-thought-would-hide-him/42895/

[RadX]

  On 2/19/2016 at 2:08 AM, Mustank said:

that time hidemyass the VPN provider faced the same problem

http://www.thewire.com/technology/2011/09/lulzsec-hacker-exposed-service-he-thought-would-hide-him/42895/

 

 

Seeing this as a link to terrorism, I wonder how they will react as their very existence and safety depends on this.  That said, it opens up a whole new era or market for iSIS 

 

OR it could be a ploy to lead them INTO buying more devices and who knows, Apple just say this 'unable to comply' reason as a 'red herring' to conceal what they already intend to do, ie lure those talibans, iSIS, whatever group.

 

Hmmmmmmmmm

[Blueray]

interesting to see how this personal privacy vs national security matter will develop.

 

 

[Sabian]

  On 2/19/2016 at 2:11 AM, RadX said:

Seeing this as a link to terrorism, I wonder how they will react as their very existence and safety depends on this.  That said, it opens up a whole new era or market for iSIS 

 

OR it could be a ploy to lead them INTO buying more devices and who knows, Apple just say this 'unable to comply' reason as a 'red herring' to conceal what they already intend to do, ie lure those talibans, iSIS, whatever group.

 

Hmmmmmmmmm

knn...everything you also say liao...win liao lor.

[Ender]

If Apple win, iphone will be terrorist choice of communication.

[RadX]

  On 2/19/2016 at 7:20 AM, Sabian said:

knn...everything you also say liao...win liao lor.

Nb... Take a thief to catch thief?

[Blueray]

what would Tim Cook's decision be if the victims happen to be his family members ?

[AndrewLee72]

I read in news that this i-phone if you key wrong pin for a few times it will wipe out the phone data or something.

 

Thats why the local police there is not going to try to break the phone by keying in multiple pins... correct me if im wrong...

 

Wah so US Iphone is different from local sets? I thot you can try as many times as you like on the pin code?

[ins1dious]

  On 2/19/2016 at 2:00 PM, Blueray said:

what would Tim Cook's decision be if the victims happen to be his family members ?

 

I suspect... it'll still be the same. TC comes off as principled when making a stand. Even with the family of the victims in this shootout... some say they want Apple to break the lock and but others say the value of the Constitution is sacrosanct and should be upheld.

 

My initial reaction was that Apple should have made an exception with this phone... as the FBI head was saying this won't set a precedent and that it will be a one-off, etc etc... but later reports started filtering in as how it will NOT be exactly how the FBI head was portraying it to be... that this will be a precedent and that current requests for over 175 other phones will also come in later.

 

Keeping that in mind... it looks like a Federal Judge is also agreeing to Apple's trepidations for this breaking lock request.

 

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Judge Sides With Apple in N.Y. Drug Case Involving Locked Phone

A judge in New York sided Monday with Apple, a ruling that could affect a similar, much-watched case over a terrorist’s phone in California. Photo: Associated Press/Carolyn Kaster

 

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Devlin Barrett

Updated Feb. 29, 2016 7:57 p.m. ET

 

A federal judge in New York sided Monday with Apple Inc. against the Justice Department, about whether the company can be forced to help investigators extract data from a locked phone—a ruling that could affect a similar, much-watched case involving a shooter’s phone in California.

 

The ruling, which could shape the broader battle about privacy, security and technology now being waged between Washington and Silicon Valley, comes a day before the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Apple’s top lawyer are due to testify before Congress.

 

Magistrate Judge James Orenstein issued a 50-page order rejecting the Justice Department’s argument that the 18th century All Writs Act gives prosecutors the authority to compel Apple to help investigators bypass the passcode-protection system on an Apple iPhone seized in a drug investigation.

The decision could have a ripple effect in Congress and California, where a judge is weighing a similar request in a dispute about an iPhone used by Syed Rizwan Farook, gunman in December’s San Bernardino attack, which killed 14 people.

 

In Monday’s ruling, the judge concluded that the government’s view of the 1789 All Writs Act is so far-reaching “as to cast doubt on [its] constitutionality if adopted.’’

 

He said the critical issues of 21st century privacy and technology should be decided by today’s lawmakers, not by reinterpreting an old law. “It would betray our constitutional heritage and our people’s claim to democratic governance for a judge to pretend that our Founders already had that debate, and ended it, in 1789,” Judge Orenstein wrote.

 

While the ruling is the first of its kind, it is certain to be reviewed by appeals court judges, and both sides are preparing for the issue to eventually reach the Supreme Court. 

 

A senior Apple executive called the ruling thoughtful and cogent, and noted that Judge Orenstein rejected a demand by New York prosecutors that was less ambitious than what prosecutors are seeking in San Bernardino—suggesting that it may be even harder for the Justice Department to win in California. Apple is expected to file the judge’s ruling as an exhibit in the San Bernardino case.

 

A Justice Department spokeswoman said the agency was “disappointed’’ in the decision and plans to ask a district judge to review it. “This phone may contain evidence that will assist us in an active criminal investigation, and we will continue to use the judicial system in our attempt to obtain it,” she said.

 

The All Writs Act gives judges broad authority to order others to do what they say, and often is used to fill in gaps in existing laws. In the past, courts have used the law to compel phone companies to help agents track and monitor calls; force landlords to turn over security videos; and make credit-card companies provide customer records.

 

The ruling marks the first time a federal judge has rejected the Justice Department’s interpretation that current law allows investigators to force technology companies to help extract data from their customer’s locked phones or other devices.

 

Apple previously has assisted in dozens of similar situations, and the New York case marked a turning point—the company resisted such efforts, and the judge questioned the legality of what prosecutors were trying to do. There are another dozen known cases in which the Justice Department is trying to force Apple to help investigators extract data from locked iPhones. 

In the California case, prosecutors want the company to write a specific piece of software that would disable certain security features on the phone, thereby enabling the FBI to guess at the passcode until they come up with the right combination. Under the current setup, the phone is erased after 10 failed password attempts.

 

The magistrate judge in the San Bernardino case, Sheri Pym, appears more sympathetic to the Justice Department’s arguments. She has issued an order directing Apple to help investigators open Mr. Farook’s phone, though she did so without hearing from the company and Apple is contesting the order. 

The Brooklyn case is different in that the government wants Apple to bypass the passcode so that investigators can retrieve some—but not all—of the data on the phone. Yet the two cases are linked by the broader policy debate and by the government’s use of the All Writs Act to try to compel Apple to help investigators. 

 

Judge Orenstein devoted much of his ruling to prosecutors’ argument that because Congress largely has been silent on the issue of what companies, particularly technology firms, may be required to do to assist investigations, the All Writs Act authorizes them to compel companies to assist investigations.

 

Judge Orenstein disagreed. He was especially sharp in noting that Apple wasn’t being accused of any impropriety.

 

“Apple is not doing anything to keep law enforcement agents from conducting their investigation. Apple has not conspired with [the defendant] to make the data on his device inaccessible,’’ the judge wrote. “The government’s complaint is precisely that Apple is doing nothing at all.”

 

In seeking to use the All Writs Act in this way, Judge Orenstein said, the Justice Department is seeking to rely on judicial authority in an area where it is Congress’ responsibility to pass a law if it chooses.

 

“It is also clear that the government has made the considered decision that it is better off securing such crypto-legislative authority from the courts…rather than taking the chance that open legislative debate might produce a result less to its liking,” he wrote. 

 

  On 2/23/2016 at 3:32 AM, Digthis1 said:

I read in news that this i-phone if you key wrong pin for a few times it will wipe out the phone data or something.

 

Thats why the local police there is not going to try to break the phone by keying in multiple pins... correct me if im wrong...

 

Wah so US Iphone is different from local sets? I thot you can try as many times as you like on the pin code?

 

It is not different from the US sets... you can turn this feature on/off in the Settings -> Touch ID & Passcode -> Erase Data.

[Kb27]

Watch out for IOS 9.3 update.

You don't want to get locked out.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35898788

iPhone and iPad owners locked out of their devices because of a problem with Apple's latest mobile operating system have been provided with a solution.

 

The iOS 9.3 update caused some older versions of the phones and tablets to require the IDs and passwords previously used to set them up.

 

Many people complained that their machines had become unusable because they had forgotten or did not know the details.

[EricChan]

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[Jamesc]

  On 1/28/2016 at 4:20 AM, ins1dious said:

Sometime in early Sept last year... there was a large cheque deposit in my personal UOB account. I couldn't for the life of me figure out the source of this amount.

 

 

 

Najib is that you my good friend?