samfreak 3rd Gear August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 honestly i don't really care i value my passenger safety more than trying to show that my MPV can carry more than its stated capacity Yup. 10pax. 6 adults, 2 teens and 2 under 12s to be exact. And it was the same 10 pax for NDP 2013 and for exactly the same purpose. The only diff is everyone weighed a little more this year than last! (I think there was also more food for the picnic). And my passengers felt very, very safe .... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmOm 5th Gear August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Not trying to challenge your perception of risk but do you know that in the unfortunate event that something happens, your insurance policy will be void because the number of people on-board exceeded the stated passenger limit for the car? Yup. 10pax. 6 adults, 2 teens and 2 under 12s to be exact. And it was the same 10 pax for NDP 2013 and for exactly the same purpose. The only diff is everyone weighed a little more this year than last! (I think there was also more food for the picnic). And my passengers felt very, very safe .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Not trying to challenge your perception of risk but do you know that in the unfortunate event that something happens, your insurance policy will be void because the number of people on-board exceeded the stated passenger limit for the car? Gee… thanks for highlighting this. I've not carried that many before, but I think my father had, when 7 relatives came from China and he went to ferry them around... My view is that this should not be done consciously on a regular basis, but like many things else in life, it's a risk we should be aware of and manage accordingly. If something really happens, then there is no running away from taking responsibility lor... To mitigate the risks, better make sure for example, take extra precaution when driving... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samfreak 3rd Gear August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Not trying to challenge your perception of risk but do you know that in the unfortunate event that something happens, your insurance policy will be void because the number of people on-board exceeded the stated passenger limit for the car? Am aware. And went ahead after a risk assessment. It was a < 10 mins drive on relatively quiet roads with heavy TP presence (because of NDP). As atrecord pointed out, its not done on a regular basis (once a year in this case). Heck, I wouldn't want to 'overload' the car regularly. There are probably more overloaded sedans than MPVs, proportion-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Am aware. And went ahead after a risk assessment. It was a < 10 mins drive on relatively quiet roads with heavy TP presence (because of NDP). As atrecord pointed out, its not done on a regular basis (once a year in this case). Heck, I wouldn't want to 'overload' the car regularly. There are probably more overloaded sedans than MPVs, proportion-wise. taking calculated risks is one thing but selling it as a great feature of the car on a public forum is another you never know someone might just do it on a regular basis without knowing the risks at all no offence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samfreak 3rd Gear August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 taking calculated risks is one thing but selling it as a great feature of the car on a public forum is another you never know someone might just do it on a regular basis without knowing the risks at all no offence No, no offence at all . But I'm curious: in what way did I 'sell' this as a 'great feature' (other than describing how many folks I packed in?)? Every car has this 'great feature', yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmOm 5th Gear August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Besides the voiding of insurance risk, there is also the impact on the handling and maneuverability of the car. Not too long ago, there was a VW Golf that got into an accident along ECP and the driver + front passenger lost their lives. I believe the driver never anticipated the accident. The Golf is a capable car and it handles well. However, given that the passenger limit (and perhaps also the weight limit) had been exceeded, the handling would have been affected to a certain extent especially when it was being driven at very high speeds. The risk that one takes is of course a personal choice. As a fellow driver and road-user, all I wish to do is to share more on the risks involved so that fewer lives can be lost from carelessness. All the best! Gee… thanks for highlighting this. I've not carried that many before, but I think my father had, when 7 relatives came from China and he went to ferry them around... My view is that this should not be done consciously on a regular basis, but like many things else in life, it's a risk we should be aware of and manage accordingly. If something really happens, then there is no running away from taking responsibility lor... To mitigate the risks, better make sure for example, take extra precaution when driving... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged August 12, 2014 Share August 12, 2014 Relax abit lah tiny matter lah, if not later meet up abit awkward. Come let's go back to discuss your favourite MPVs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Besides the voiding of insurance risk, there is also the impact on the handling and maneuverability of the car. Not too long ago, there was a VW Golf that got into an accident along ECP and the driver + front passenger lost their lives. I believe the driver never anticipated the accident. The Golf is a capable car and it handles well. However, given that the passenger limit (and perhaps also the weight limit) had been exceeded, the handling would have been affected to a certain extent especially when it was being driven at very high speeds. The risk that one takes is of course a personal choice. As a fellow driver and road-user, all I wish to do is to share more on the risks involved so that fewer lives can be lost from carelessness. All the best! Good point. In that example you cited, i think the car was charging at a speed that was waaaaaay above speed limit, which means there was no mitigation of risks taken when the car was quite full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 taking calculated risks is one thing but selling it as a great feature of the car on a public forum is another you never know someone might just do it on a regular basis without knowing the risks at all no offence True that someone reading just that one post could have taken the point completely out of context and mistake it (the car can take up to 10 pax) as a selling point. But if the person had followed the discussion in the whole thread (or just a few more pages), then it will not be difficult to understand that the point to make was with regard to how spacious a 7-seater MPV is, and in that particular instance, a comparison was made between 2 MPVs (Isis vs grand picasso). And the crux was just to emphasize that the former is much more spacious than the latter, nothing more. But, yah, let's be more careful in future in what is said lor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Ok to hai lian abit on my moment of calculated risk recently: 2 adults + 6 kids of primary school age. It was within the limit of car capacity but it really took a lot to get the kids under control! Good thing I am very strict. Everyone very comfortable but unbearably noisy the whole journey. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 ayoh we're all adults here no need to lecture each other wat is safety lah. we can b driving alone or have 20 pple in the MPV but the thing none of us can control is our fate. if got a out of control car decide to buang our car, if only u driving then u may die lor. if got 20 pple inside all 20 may die lor. up to us to consider wat is good n bad. even the shortest trip outside our house we cant control a mad driver from crashing into us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbintheheart 2nd Gear August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Hi Bros, new here...looking for a MPV to replace my sedan due to increase in family size...am looking at the Toyota Wish...called BM to check that the Classic variant comes with fabric seats...is that true?? any option to change to leather?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiiuwii 1st Gear August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Hi Bros, new here...looking for a MPV to replace my sedan due to increase in family size...am looking at the Toyota Wish...called BM to check that the Classic variant comes with fabric seats...is that true?? any option to change to leather?? Classic is fabric seats and comes without touch screen radio/gps/reverse camera/dvd player mounted at the top. To have all these is about $4000 more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 ayoh we're all adults here no need to lecture each other wat is safety lah. we can b driving alone or have 20 pple in the MPV but the thing none of us can control is our fate. if got a out of control car decide to buang our car, if only u driving then u may die lor. if got 20 pple inside all 20 may die lor. up to us to consider wat is good n bad. even the shortest trip outside our house we cant control a mad driver from crashing into us. yeah. My FIL ferrys my kid everyday in a Toyota Liteace. Would i like my kid to be seated in a child seat, yeah sure, but it's just not practical. But i try to make sure they only drive within the neighbourhood. Further trips, i will try to fetch them there if possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 yeah. My FIL ferrys my kid everyday in a Toyota Liteace. Would i like my kid to be seated in a child seat, yeah sure, but it's just not practical. But i try to make sure they only drive within the neighbourhood. Further trips, i will try to fetch them there if possible. Wah, this was what happened for me 9 yr ago too, for a good 2-3 yr... Initially it was only one kid, which was ok. My father just drove slowly, and it was short distance away only. Then when younger one also needed to go childcare, will need one of them to sit at the back… And I bit bullet bought a cheap 2nd car… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Wah, this was what happened for me 9 yr ago too, for a good 2-3 yr... Initially it was only one kid, which was ok. My father just drove slowly, and it was short distance away only. Then when younger one also needed to go childcare, will need one of them to sit at the back… And I bit bullet bought a cheap 2nd car… I have plans to buy a 2nd car for my wife to drive when my FIL's liteace is going to scrap. But that's another 4 yrs away. I will fetch my elder kid in the morning to nursery soon. But pickup is by my FIL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powxus 3rd Gear August 13, 2014 Share August 13, 2014 Classic is fabric seats and comes without touch screen radio/gps/reverse camera/dvd player mounted at the top. To have all these is about $4000 more. Classic should have radio/gps/reverse camera but do not have dvd player mounted on the roof. If need you can still go outside and change to leather seats. Frankly I do not think the dvd player is necessary. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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