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wkloh

wkloh

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I just received info from my PI that they have ready stock for Vezel X available for collection before CNY.

If interested I can PM you their contacts.

Disclaimer : I just info purely for the Bro & Sis in this forum & I got no relation with them..

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Anzz

Anzz

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I just received info from my PI that they have ready stock for Vezel X available for collection before CNY.

If interested I can PM you their contacts.

Disclaimer : I just info purely for the Bro & Sis in this forum & I got no relation with them..

 

Are you talking about me having stock before CNY.......... :wub::wub::wub:

Lol

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indulge

indulge

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Bros,what is the recommended milleage for every CVT gear box oil change, especially for our baby Vezel.Thx!

 

Workshop will tell you 40k... its best to do it at <30k

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LEEST

LEEST

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Workshop will tell you 40k... its best to do it at <30k

Thanks!

Honda cvt know to be delicate. I do it every 20k since my fit GE6 days.

Thanks!

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logic69

logic69

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I tested the engine cut off vs the aircon temperature function or theory you may call. I was at a traffic light junction, come to a complete stop and confirmed engine was cut off. Next I brought the aircon setting all the way to 18C, the engine started immediately. So some bros here who mentioned that this is one of the reasons preventing engine to cut off is correct.

 

Today is also my 2nd top up of the petrol tank (38 litres to be exact) after completed 622km after the first full tank top up. Based on this, the FC is about 16.3 km/litres. Just for sharing.

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Rationalexuberance

Rationalexuberance

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Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

Niltrams (Smartlin) bro! Thanks so much for the super detailed intro of the hybrid. The drive was lovely and unforgettable. Still trying so hard to hold the vivid experience and relive the feeling now. I am 110% sold on the vezel and 98% sold on getting the hybrid. Only financial plans to be done. Needa 1st sell my beloved CU2 to the next Honda loving owner. Edited by Rationalexuberance
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Vega

Vega

Turbocharged

 

Carplate xx00? The white one. If so, then that's my customer's car. Haha, just collected yesterday.

 

indeed it is. his previous car is a black car right?

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EagleStar

EagleStar

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Can any bro here advise the road holding/ stability of this Vezel. As my current Honda Civic has less than 10 months to go, i am keen to buy a Honda car again. I like heavy car with a good road holding, sturdy body and less bumpy when on the highway. Mostly travel highway 70/ city 30.

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Friendstar

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Niltrams (Smartlin) bro! Thanks so much for the super detailed intro of the hybrid. The drive was lovely and unforgettable. Still trying so hard to hold the vivid experience and relive the feeling now. I am 110% sold on the vezel and 98% sold on getting the hybrid. Only financial plans to be done. Needa 1st sell my beloved CU2 to the next Honda loving owner.

U selling cu2 and buying vezel?

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