Jammy_buttons 3rd Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 Went to see bezza, Fit and swift just now. Decided on honda. KAH vs PI is diff of 4-5k savings... Wonder anyone can advise?What it is equipped with and hybrid or non hybrid ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinmig 1st Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 Kah motors Its 68k with or without loans. Not a single PI In the whole of Singapore will allow you unless you pay more. The only true price of the car is a cash only deal without any trade in or other fluff. Only then you can compare. Also PI warranty is as good as almost no warranty. Bear in mind that PI warranty is NOT with the factory but with insurance company and local workshops. A huge big fat difference. Thus if there is zero savings unless itâs a car I really like and not brought in by AD, then itâs the PI route. But for sure Iâll get them to remove whatever warranty they add and get the cash in pocket. The only automotive item which is PI that I readily buy are tyres and of course if they are cheaper. Cause claiming warranty from ADs are next to impossible. Itâs always wear and tear. We have our own workshop. C200 gearbox faulty, we order new and change out for customers.You hear only the bad points of PI. Our cars are covered with Warranty insurance. We buy insurance for added coverage/assurance Cash deal at 69k I will not convince you to get from Pi. Because it’s your $$. Thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 We have our own workshop. C200 gearbox faulty, we order new and change out for customers. You hear only the bad points of PI. Our cars are covered with Warranty insurance. We buy insurance for added coverage/assurance Cash deal at 69k I will not convince you to get from Pi. Because itâs your $$. Thank you ð PI cannot trust. How we know you not lying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinmig 1st Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 PI cannot trust. How we know you not lying?There are black and white for all.The warranty booklet will shows what’s covered and what’s not covered. For sure there are unreliable PI as well as reliable PI. Some will view all PI as unreliable.. then fullstop. Go with your mind open and see what we have to offer.. You do not have to buy at anything just by visiting.. You can also need not leave any contact.. I’m like some of you before i join. I only buy from ADs.. until I realise that ADs profit margin is so high.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 We have our own workshop. C200 gearbox faulty, we order new and change out for customers. You hear only the bad points of PI. Our cars are covered with Warranty insurance. We buy insurance for added coverage/assurance Cash deal at 69k I will not convince you to get from Pi. Because itâs your $$. Thank you ð Show us the paperwork for the gearbox change 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carhorn 5th Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 There are black and white for all. The warranty booklet will shows what’s covered and what’s not covered. For sure there are unreliable PI as well as reliable PI. Some will view all PI as unreliable.. then fullstop. Go with your mind open and see what we have to offer.. You do not have to buy at anything just by visiting.. You can also need not leave any contact.. I’m like some of you before i join. I only buy from ADs.. until I realise that ADs profit margin is so high.. what is the name of your company? location? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinmig 1st Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 what is the name of your company? location? Thank you for your interest.I will not name my company unfortunately as others may deem Me looking for sales. We have 3 showroom Alexandra Road , Leng Kee Road And Ubi AML . Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinmig 1st Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 Show us the paperwork for the gearbox change I’m not able to Show you as I dun have access to it. I’m not at higher management. I can only show you what’s covered (partial) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WangWang888 5th Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 What it is equipped with and hybrid or non hybridNon hybrid 1.3 For pi, got keyless entry, start button, touchscreen auto climate control, sports rim, leather seats, 1 yr servicing, 5yr/100k warranty, pioneer headset with apple play, ultra seats. about 66k from pi. Didnt ask if they got include honda sensing. Its sensing good? Cos went to kah motor and they say not relevant for sg so not included in the 1.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy_buttons 3rd Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 Non hybrid 1.3 For pi, got keyless entry, start button, touchscreen auto climate control, sports rim, leather seats, 1 yr servicing, 5yr/100k warranty, pioneer headset with apple play, ultra seats. about 66k from pi. Didnt ask if they got include honda sensing. Its sensing good? Cos went to kah motor and they say not relevant for sg so not included in the 1.3Then get pi lor. Honda sensing is a safety function Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 (edited) We have our own workshop. C200 gearbox faulty, we order new and change out for customers. You hear only the bad points of PI. Our cars are covered with Warranty insurance. We buy insurance for added coverage/assurance Cash deal at 69k I will not convince you to get from Pi. Because itâs your $$. Thank you ð Thanks for the reply. I have to say @69k, it’s not attractive to me and not that I’m in the market for a jazz/fit now. As mentioned earlier, for me, buying from PI comes about when larger savings From conti such Mercedes and bmw. Or they bring in hybrids and jdm cars which the ADs dont. In this case, with 69k, I don’t see any savings and it’s also almost the exact same car as Kah has so no incentive to go PI. I did encourage my parents back in 2006 to buy a toyota wish from Ricardo and they did. Ricardo were one of the better run PI. Vincar which you represent is also one of the better PI around. This should be the car. https://m.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=779976 Edited November 25, 2018 by Mkl22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winningeleven 4th Gear November 25, 2018 Share November 25, 2018 PI can be a saviour for some car buyers who really need a car . Especially helping those who can't afford 30% down payment and wanted to repay up to 9 years or even 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags 1st Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 Non hybrid 1.3 For pi, got keyless entry, start button, touchscreen auto climate control, sports rim, leather seats, 1 yr servicing, 5yr/100k warranty, pioneer headset with apple play, ultra seats. about 66k from pi. Didnt ask if they got include honda sensing. Its sensing good? Cos went to kah motor and they say not relevant for sg so not included in the 1.3 Price for features sound good. I got mine from AD, 1.3lx. NO Keyless, No Touchscreen climate. No Carplay Wish it came with Carplay.... now trying to find out if its possible to install a headunit with Carplay in mine... Anyone knows if its possible? do i need a bracket to replace the original headunit and if the replacement HU works with the steering controls and rear camera? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 PI can be a saviour for some car buyers who really need a car . Especially helping those who can't afford 30% down payment and wanted to repay up to 9 years or even 10 years.Yes....but the in house loan interest rate they give is a killer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WangWang888 5th Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 PI can be a saviour for some car buyers who really need a car . Especially helping those who can't afford 30% down payment and wanted to repay up to 9 years or even 10 years.Tot mas ruling is 30% down? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneStock 5th Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 Kah motors Its 68k with or without loans. Not a single PI In the whole of Singapore will allow you unless you pay more. The only true price of the car is a cash only deal without any trade in or other fluff. Only then you can compare. Also PI warranty is as good as almost no warranty. Bear in mind that PI warranty is NOT with the factory but with insurance company and local workshops. A huge big fat difference. Thus if there is zero savings unless it’s a car I really like and not brought in by AD, then it’s the PI route. But for sure I’ll get them to remove whatever warranty they add and get the cash in pocket. The only automotive item which is PI that I readily buy are tyres and of course if they are cheaper. Cause claiming warranty from ADs are next to impossible. It’s always wear and tear. agree. for me to consider a PI (even reputable ones) the sell price of the car must be significantly lower than what the AD is asking. If not, it doesn't make sense to take the risks. The savings upfront can be used as an "insurance" to repair any possible failures in the future. With current AD price of $67999...and if the PI price is $69k, wonder who will buy from PI? In addition, AD is now going 3 yrs free service and 5 yrs warranty....and yes, you are right, the buy price from AD remains the same even if don't take up a loan through them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags 1st Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 (edited) Main Advantage are those PIs who have ready stock Honda Fit 1.3 over KM's long wait for their 1.3 (think its about 4-6 months wait now) Last heard if order now, delivery in March/April). But agree that the sell price should be priced lower than AD for it to be worth while. PI's pricing varies from one to another as well... with different specs from each PI Back to CarPlay.... Anyone with a GK Jazz who upgraded to a new HeadUnit with CarPlay? =P Edited November 26, 2018 by rags 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinmig 1st Gear November 26, 2018 Share November 26, 2018 agree. for me to consider a PI (even reputable ones) the sell price of the car must be significantly lower than what the AD is asking. If not, it doesn't make sense to take the risks. The savings upfront can be used as an "insurance" to repair any possible failures in the future. With current AD price of $67999...and if the PI price is $69k, wonder who will buy from PI? In addition, AD is now going 3 yrs free service and 5 yrs warranty....and yes, you are right, the buy price from AD remains the same even if don't take up a loan through them. With Loan it’s 67988Same as Kah But like some mention,kah no keyless, no climate control no CarPlay, no Sensing no folding mirror etc Can loan higher if required ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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