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While Singapore teens have been proven to do well in problem-solving, Singaporeans still fare poorly in spoken English and lack confidence in articulating their views, said Member of Parliament Hri Kumar Nair yesterday.

 

While Singapore teens have been proven to do well in problem-solving, Singaporeans still fare poorly in spoken English and lack confidence in articulating their views, said Member of Parliament Hri Kumar Nair yesterday.
Far too often, he shared on his Facebook page, he has attended meetings where Singaporeans kept silent, giving the impression they are ignorant.
So, although Singapore teens scored well in the Programme for International Student Assessment (Pisa) released on Tuesday, beating students from 43 other economies in its problem-solving test, there is still room for improvement. Singaporeans he dealt with are mostly "hardworking, knowledgeable and have a deep sense of responsibility and commitment to their work", said the Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC MP. "But they are often let down by their standard of spoken English and a lack of confidence to persuade or articulate their views on their feet. Many employers I know share this view," the lawyer added.
These are what he considers important aspects of education which Pisa does not test.
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i somewhat agree with him.

look at hongkee and taiwanese ... anyone you pickup on the street

young or old ... they can really articulate their view clearly

 

sporean not just camera shy ... can't really speak up clearly, ask right questions, etc

 

we need to buckle up!

 

i don't have enough info or stats whether sporean fare poorly in english but articulation is really poor ... double confirmed!

 

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i somewhat agree with him.

look at hongkee and taiwanese ... anyone you pickup on the street

young or old ... they can really articulate their view clearly

 

sporean not just camera shy ... can't really speak up clearly, ask right questions, etc

 

we need to buckle up!

 

i don't have enough info or stats whether sporean fare poorly in english but articulation is really poor ... double confirmed!

 

Simi somewhat?

 

Totally agree!

 

But largely has to do with the submissive culture and being afraid of making mistakes. We were made and built to be this way so that it is easier.......Put an American ang moh through the exact same environment and paces over the same amount of time, and you'll see little difference in the end result.

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we need to buckle up!

 

i don't have enough info or stats whether sporean fare poorly in english but articulation is really poor ... double confirmed!

 

Its "we need to buck up"

 

You buckle up in a car

 

I agree with you now

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True u ask people in the street about gahmen, they wont say anything.

 

But in taiwan they will say Ma President Jiayou!

Is that Prata he's eating? What an unfortunate food choice to be photographed with! [laugh]

It represent his ethnicity ok lol

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Can't agree more.

 

It's ingrained in the system, starting from education. It's not just English, but Mother Tongues as well. And don't blame the 2 language system in schools or start giving yourself consolation prizes that humans can only master one language well.

 

It's a two way street. Gahment must also be prepared for more vocal, critical and passionate voices from the masses = "aggressive" (in their views) when Singaporeans start to open up. This may not be what they wish for. Merely opening up a small speaker corner with the requirement to apply permit to speak is just a small little step, but that's nothing and can do nothing much.

 

There must be a need to tolerate diverse views and voices even if these are considered "wayward" to some.

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Is that Prata he's eating? What an unfortunate food choice to be photographed with! [laugh]

Prata, curry and teh tarik, is ok lah!

 

Dont like that leh, pang chan a bit.

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Can't agree more.

 

It's ingrained in the system, starting from education. It's not just English, but Mother Tongues as well. And don't blame the 2 language system in schools or start giving yourself consolation prizes that humans can only master one language well.

 

It's a two way street. Gahment must also be prepared for more vocal, critical and passionate voices from the masses = "aggressive" (in their views) when Singaporeans start to open up. This may not be what they wish for. Merely opening up a small speaker corner with the requirement to apply permit to speak is just a small little step, but that's nothing and can do nothing much.

 

There must be a need to tolerate diverse views and voices even if these are considered "wayward" to some.

knn. ah beng like me. never got pang chance me go top top notch skools like our dear minister! of course lim pei no confident talk to him mah.

 

if gimme chance go study high high. like him go priceton or oxbridge. I also will talk very the confidently like him mah.

 

too bad I only go jalan ulu sembawang primary school so I lan lan suck thumb la!

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Is that Prata he's eating? What an unfortunate food choice to be photographed with! [laugh]

 

bro.......kopi shop.......and he Indian.........prata and teh tatik ok lah.............you want him eat roti john or murtabak ah???........ [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

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bro.......kopi shop.......and he Indian.........prata and teh tatik ok lah.............you want him eat roti john or murtabak ah???........ [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

can order thosai mah. or appam. lol
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can order thosai mah. or appam. lol

 

than mee goreng and rojak also come to mind liao lor.............. [laugh] [laugh]

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Must pay all spectrum of the society well too. Otherwise, how to have confidence when speaking to others?

 

knn. ah beng like me. never got pang chance me go top top notch skools like our dear minister! of course lim pei no confident talk to him mah.

if gimme chance go study high high. like him go priceton or oxbridge. I also will talk very the confidently like him mah.

too bad I only go jalan ulu sembawang primary school so I lan lan suck thumb la!

 

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liddat, i jialat man, i where got tokking skills? i where tok to my patients? boohooo....

 

 

on a more serous note. I tend to agree with Hari here. Let's not even look at the kids, but even adults. Those that I ahve had conversations with, cannot get their point across without the regular 'erms, ahs, let me see' gap fillers. They are unable to construe a sentence fluidly in one go and need these fillers. I find it highly irritating.

 

Sentence construction should be an intrinsic skill and should come out fluidly. Granted, it takes practice and confidence which i feel a lot of our folks lack. Even sending the kids for drama and speech courses, does not get much help if they do not practice.

 

Speaking for myself, it is only in the last 5 years or so, after much contact with people from the ground to the boardroom, am i able to hold my own in an audience and command the wanted attention. No easy solution to this.

 

Simply put, it starts at home. Our teachers should also be trained in this area so that they can also mentor and guide our youth accordingly.

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nabei. making me hungry. suddenly got cravings for jb roti john. lol

 

jam lah............by the time you reach you hungry like f**k liao................and by the time you get back hungry liao............... [laugh] [laugh]

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