Grab/Ryde issues and charges

[Carnoob]

My stand will still be good for the industry: -

 

1. Introduce vocational licence still ensures Singaporeans get the job.

2. Offer alternatives for taxi drivers who are just looking for pass time, second income, personal transport etc.

3. Cut down waiting time for taxi during peak hours whereby every drivers are waiting for booking rather than prowling the road

4. Taxi Companies would have to lower their rental fees, improve their drivers' benefits.

5. Uber drivers SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED to pick customers from taxi stands or along the road unless with prior booking.

6. Service Level standards or KPIs can be set for Uber (e.g. 95% of their fleets should meet 40 trips per month to prevent misuse).

 

Car sharing is never going to be popular, car pooling is difficult to execute... then Uber is the best "in-between" solution.

[Myxilplix]

 

4. Taxi Companies would have to lower their rental fees, improve their drivers' benefits.

 

 

Wait people say you wanna raid the reserves, choy!

[Mustank]

 

Wait people say you wanna raid the reserves, choy!

 

XXX MP say higher emplouyer cpf contribution for older workers = best idea, care for workers, care for elderly, best minister

 

YYY MP say the same = raid reserve, silly idea, stoopid, never think about bigger picture, economy

[flashbang]

 

XXX MP say higher emplouyer cpf contribution for older workers = best idea, care for workers, care for elderly, best minister

 

YYY MP say the same = raid reserve, silly idea, stoopid, never think about bigger picture, economy

 

This reminds me of the "Sinkie vs AMDK" style of posts over at a certain forum...

[Jman888]

is Uber ride really cheaper than the rest?

 

 

Uber guarantees minimum hourly earnings for private drivers under new scheme

Move boosts supply of cars on road and benefits passengers, it says

PUBLISHED ON JUN 22, 2015

BY ADRIAN LIM

CAR-BOOKING technology firm Uber has upped the ante in the competition for passengers here - it is guaranteeing its drivers minimum hourly earnings during peak hours.

The move is unprecedented for the taxi business, where cabbies' income is derived solely through fare takings.

The San Francisco-based start-up, which has become a rival to taxi firms in many countries, said the move was to increase its supply of cars on the road here during peak periods and would benefit passengers.

An Uber spokesman told The Straits Times last week: "We're constantly trying to optimise driver earnings to ensure consistently high reliability for riders.

"Passengers are able to benefit... especially during peak hours as more drivers are on the road to take advantage of their earning opportunities," he said.

The guaranteed earnings scheme has been rolled out in almost all cities in the United States but was started here only a few months ago.

Under the scheme, the app company's private car hire drivers can earn up to $32 an hour during weekday morning peak hours of 6am to 10am, and $27 an hour on weekday evenings between 5pm and 11pm.

The scheme also applies during weekends, but at different hours and rates.

If a driver makes less than the guaranteed amount in fares in a particular hour, Uber has promised to top up the difference.

The Straits Times understands that the guaranteed rates are not fixed. They are also gross fares, before Uber takes its 20 per cent commission.

But drivers have to fulfil certain conditions, including staying online on the app for 55 minutes of each hour.

They must also complete at least one ride an hour and accept almost all bookings.

Industry experts said the guaranteed earnings scheme is a way for Uber to get drivers to stay on its app and edge out the competition from similar ride-booking systems, such as Lyft, which has a strong presence in the US.

In Singapore, Uber's closest rival is GrabCar, which is run by cab-booking app GrabTaxi.

Drivers under Uber have mixed views about the new scheme.

Mr Alfred Tan, 54, said that with more drivers plying the streets at the same time, there are not enough bookings to go around.

While the guaranteed rates mean he could get at least $290 a day, he noted that in the past, he could make as much as $400 on a good day. "I was getting more jobs with fewer drivers on the road."

Another driver, Mr G. G. Tan, 43, said Uber recently slashed the minimum fare from $8 to $5, denting earnings.

But Uber said: "Cheaper rides ensure the demand is always increasing, so drivers will always have more and more rides to fulfil. As a result, drivers on the Uber platform make more money."

Other Uber drivers, such as Mr Ken Wong, 29, said the guaranteed earnings scheme has helped. "If I take a customer from town to Sembawang, which costs around $25, I may have to travel back to the city with an empty car. So the top-up can cover the petrol costs," said Mr Wong.

Commuters such as Mr Aditya G., 29, a finance executive who uses the Uber service daily, have already benefited.

"Six months ago, it probably took between 15 and 20 minutes to get a booking, but now it takes less than 10 minutes," said Mr Aditya. "I feel there are more Uber cars now on the road."

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[Soya]

Haven't used Uber in Sg but used it a few times in US (across different states) and yes, it's cheaper. Plus more reliable, cleaner and no need to tip. Distance travelled captured on app n auto bill to credit card. This us how all taxi services shld be.

 

In my past experience, some blardy US cabbies neber show up even if u book 3 hrs in advance, some try to cheat by taking the 'scenic route', some act blur say no change n expect to pocket a 50% tip and some cabs are disgustingly dirty.

 

Long live Uber.

[Tay86]

http://www.mycarforum.com/blog/12/entry-4082-french-taxi-drivers-smash-cars-in-strike-against-uber/ French taxi drivers smash cars in strike against Uber

French taxi drivers smashed up livery cars, set tires ablaze and blocked traffic across the country on Thursday in a nationwide strike aimed at Uber after weeks of rising, sometimes violent tensions over the U.S. ride-hailing company.

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/blog/12/entry-4082-french-taxi-drivers-smash-cars-in-strike-against-uber/

 

Are taxi's in Singapore facing similar issues with Uber?

 

 

[Showster]

Seems an excellent way to beat rising ownership prices both from the Uber driver and the passenger points of view.

 

Who suffers? Taxi companies and taxi drivers?

 

I know of a friend who takes these cars on a daily basis to send his child to childcare centre. Must check on the costs.

[Duckduck]

Seems an excellent way to beat rising ownership prices both from the Uber driver and the passenger points of view.

 

Who suffers? Taxi companies and taxi drivers?

 

I know of a friend who takes these cars on a daily basis to send his child to childcare centre. Must check on the costs.

 

consumers gain coz its a highly subsidized op! theyre just playing musical chairs until that big sucker investor comes along...

 

some tech ideas are great but just not profitable

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses

Edited June 30, 2015 by Duckduck

[Showster]

Uber, Grabtaxi, some others...

 

OK, will tell my friend to enjoy it while it lasts.

 

 

consumers gain coz its a highly subsidized op! theyre just playing musical chairs until that big sucker investor comes along...

 

some tech ideas are great but just not profitable

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses

 

[Enye]

i think many SQ stewardesses like this service

 

saves them from the taxi queue at the airport

 

i saw 1 stewardess in my block using this service - altis driven by an uncle

 

[Wt_know]

must be latio moonlighting ... only accept stewardess booking

if t2 post his porky for uber ... only accept supermodel ... lol

 

i think many SQ stewardesses like this service

 

saves them from the taxi queue at the airport

 

i saw 1 stewardess in my block using this service - altis driven by an uncle

 

 

Edited June 30, 2015 by Wt_know

[Fcw75]

Anyone working as a uber driver?

 

Saw the program on channel 8 last week.

[Shorty]

My fren is an uber driver. Can earn a bit more than 1k per wk.

[Kusje]

My fren is an uber driver. Can earn a bit more than 1k per wk.

 

Sounds not bad until you drill into the specifics I guess.

 

Eg.

 

1. What are his working hours to make 1k per week?

2. He won't have CPF so 1k per week is comparable to a paid employee making 3.4k a month.

3. Is it after including his expenses like car rental?

4. Is it including any special perks given by uber in order to build up critical mass? These perks will disappear once they start to think about profits

5. Are profits going down as more drivers come in?

Edited July 1, 2015 by Kusje

[Kangadrool]

it's like taxi driving, people go into it when

 

1. retrench, cannot find another job.

2. need extra $$$ to feed the family.

 

Nobody goes in to be a professional driver or the love of ferrying self-loading cargoes.

 

 

Sounds not bad until you drill into the specifics I guess.

 

Eg.

 

1. What are his working hours to make 1k per week?

2. He won't have CPF so 1k per week is comparable to a paid employee making 3.4k a month.

3. Is it after including his expenses like car rental?

4. Is it including any special perks given by uber in order to build up critical mass? These perks will disappear once they start to think about profits

5. Are profits going down as more drivers come in?

 

Edited July 2, 2015 by Kangadrool

[Fcw75]

My fren is an uber driver. Can earn a bit more than 1k per wk.

Let me guess, is he in his 40s or 50s?

[Shorty]

 

Sounds not bad until you drill into the specifics I guess.

 

Eg.

 

1. What are his working hours to make 1k per week?

2. He won't have CPF so 1k per week is comparable to a paid employee making 3.4k a month.

3. Is it after including his expenses like car rental?

4. Is it including any special perks given by uber in order to build up critical mass? These perks will disappear once they start to think about profits

5. Are profits going down as more drivers come in?

working hrs very flexible. n i tink he mainly drives noon onwards. car rental im not sure. he showed part of his salary breakdown, didnt see the full picture. but overall i tink not bad fm wat he's saying. he's been doing it for abt 1.5yrs.

Let me guess, is he in his 40s or 50s?

nope...early 30s. with 2 kids n staying in jb. tinking of buying another property there. so i guess cant b doing that bad.