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Kxbc

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I have mentioned before. Toyotas will always appeal to a large segment of Singapore car buying population who wants a good driving experience. The definition of good driving experience is vey subjective, but most of us will agree that a large segment of the car buying population in Singapore define good driving experience as 'turn the key and drive and no breakdowns despite not being diligent in servicing the car, i.e reliability, dependability, loyal and unquestioning work horse'. The 'feel' and the 'road holding' of the car is not the most important and definitely not the deciding factor in the car buying process. Even if individual car owners look away from Toyota, car rental companies such as Uber LCR will be more willing to buy Altis and rent it out because let's be honest, the maintenance cost is lower and this means higher turnaround and greater profits.

 

Don't agree with your comment.

 

Car owners have different needs for their cars. Reliability and dependability, though not your key requirements for you (I assume you drive a VW seeing your Das Auto icon), are not wrong decision indicators. It is just whether you rank them as priority.

 

Ultimately, if you feel that you can afford the price of the car you like, then let's go buy it. Whether that company makes a high or low profit margin on the vehicle you buy is not a consideration.

 

Btw, I have never owned a Toyota.

 

 

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Ct3833

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I just don't understand. The sum don't add up. Recently they just completed a new building to house champion and Toyota along padan crescent. Shouldn't they be increasing headcount instead of cutting down?

Any merger and consolidation will lead to fall out. Their situation is made worse by moving some of the backend jobs to low cost countries. Whike they may increase sales headcountsbut no way the increase could make up for the reduction and consolidation of backend jobs.
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Don't agree with your comment.

 

Car owners have different needs for their cars. Reliability and dependability, though not your key requirements for you (I assume you drive a VW seeing your Das Auto icon), are not wrong decision indicators. It is just whether you rank them as priority.

 

Why do you conclude that 'reliability and dependability is NOT my key requirements'? On the basis on seeing the Das Auto icon?

 

Ultimately, if you feel that you can afford the price of the car you like, then let's go buy it. Whether that company makes a high or low profit margin on the vehicle you buy is not a consideration.

 

Based on your argument, aren't you encouraging consumers to be suckers? To be at the mercy of car distributors who hold monopolies on certain brands?

 

Btw, I have never owned a Toyota.

Don't agree with your comment.

 

Car owners have different needs for their cars. Reliability and dependability, though not your key requirements for you (I assume you drive a VW seeing your Das Auto icon), are not wrong decision indicators. It is just whether you rank them as priority.

 

Ultimately, if you feel that you can afford the price of the car you like, then let's go buy it. Whether that company makes a high or low profit margin on the vehicle you buy is not a consideration.

 

Btw, I have never owned a Toyota.

 

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Kxbc

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Don't agree with your comment.

 

Car owners have different needs for their cars. Reliability and dependability, though not your key requirements for you (I assume you drive a VW seeing your Das Auto icon), are not wrong decision indicators. It is just whether you rank them as priority.

 

Why do you conclude that 'reliability and dependability is NOT my key requirements'? On the basis on seeing the Das Auto icon?

 

Ultimately, if you feel that you can afford the price of the car you like, then let's go buy it. Whether that company makes a high or low profit margin on the vehicle you buy is not a consideration.

 

Based on your argument, aren't you encouraging consumers to be suckers? To be at the mercy of car distributors who hold monopolies on certain brands?

 

Btw, I have never owned a Toyota.

 

I did not say reliability and dependability are not part of your considerations but you seem to place "feel" and "road holding" as more important criteria than reliability and dependability. And given that VW cars do have a reputation for being a driver's car (Sciroco, Golf etc), I infer that "feel" and "road holding" are more important to you. That is my observation.

 

Your argument about suckers is prob misplaced. If you like Car A, you can afford it and there is no other car in the market you really fancy, would the fact that Distributor X making a couple more thousand dollars than Distributor B selling Car B will make you change your mind?

 

Like I say, different folks have different priorities. Other folk having different priorities from you do not make them wrong or suckers. We have to accept that fact of life.

 

Cheers and happy new year.

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Lala81

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My Mazda Biante running on 6 speed auto and Toyota Wish still running on 4 speed auto....

 

How to survive ....

 

Uncle, it's been on 7 speed CVT for many years liao loh...  [laugh]

 

I think you can't really criticise the wish much. 

It has 6 airbags. The price is decent. It's still a very practical car after 10+ years on the road.

It's really still a very easy decision to buy after so many years.

 

Other toyota cars yeah.

 

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Uncle, it's been on 7 speed CVT for many years liao loh...  [laugh]

 

I think you can't really criticise the wish much. 

It has 6 airbags. The price is decent. It's still a very practical car after 10+ years on the road.

It's really still a very easy decision to buy after so many years.

 

Other toyota cars yeah.

 

yeap. My next car will most probably be a WISH  ^_^

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Uncle, it's been on 7 speed CVT for many years liao loh...  [laugh]

 

I think you can't really criticise the wish much. 

It has 6 airbags. The price is decent. It's still a very practical car after 10+ years on the road.

It's really still a very easy decision to buy after so many years.

 

Other toyota cars yeah.

Christopher Tan of ST motoring column owns a Wish and I read he extend COE for his car.

 

Previous weekend, in his ST column for good buys in the different categories, he listed the Wish amongst compacts MPVs as a good buy. I don't always agree with his columns but this car obviously has not let him down and is probably a very practical car to own cos it's not easy to please a motoring journalist I feel. So kudos to the Wish for being long in the tooth but still selling well. 

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Christopher Tan of ST motoring column owns a Wish and I read he extend COE for his car.

 

Previous weekend, in his ST column for good buys in the different categories, he listed the Wish amongst compacts MPVs as a good buy. I don't always agree with his columns but this car obviously has not let him down and is probably a very practical car to own cos it's not easy to please a motoring journalist I feel. So kudos to the Wish for being long in the tooth but still selling well. 

Yeah, for 110k it's a real VFM car.

But how does the current iteration score for NCAP tests I wonder?

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t0y0ta

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 http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/inchcape-staff-fear-more-job-cuts-ahead

 

Sounds like Borneo Motors going into a very bad state.... Ang Mos back in Europe mothership wanna cut the costs here in spite of record profits sucked from here. After sales services will probably go bad.

 

Hope Toyota can find alternative distributor in long term. This idiot company probably will make the Toyota name go bad here.

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therock

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IMO, I think this job trimming isn't a reflection of how well it's doing.

It's just trying to cut costs.. just like when they shifted the manufacture of most of their cars to Thailand without any real reduction of pricing for the customer.

 

We will see in the next few years...

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Camrysfa

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IMO, I think this job trimming isn't a reflection of how well it's doing.

It's just trying to cut costs.. just like when they shifted the manufacture of most of their cars to Thailand without any real reduction of pricing for the customer.

 

We will see in the next few years...

 

Inchcape is just a Toyota distributor.......

About Borneo Motors

Borneo Motors (Singapore) Pte Ltd is today’s leading car distributor in Singapore. Established in 1856, Borneo Motors is part of the Inchcape Group of UK that is well regarded for its prowess in motor distribution.

In 1967, our groundbreaking relationship with Toyota Motor Corporation began, sparking a success that surpassed all expectations. We’ve also launched the Lexus brand in 1992, and further expanded into the heavy goods vehicle market with Hino in 2006.

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inlinesix

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IMO, I think this job trimming isn't a reflection of how well it's doing.

It's just trying to cut costs.. just like when they shifted the manufacture of most of their cars to Thailand without any real reduction of pricing for the customer.

 

We will see in the next few years...

 

Are you talking about TMC or Borneo Motor?

 

Having car made in Asean country will allow intra Asean exports with no import duty.

 

It is not all about cost only.

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 http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/inchcape-staff-fear-more-job-cuts-ahead

 

Sounds like Borneo Motors going into a very bad state.... Ang Mos back in Europe mothership wanna cut the costs here in spite of record profits sucked from here. After sales services will probably go bad.

 

Hope Toyota can find alternative distributor in long term. This idiot company probably will make the Toyota name go bad here.

 

Having re-structuring during high profit period is a smart biz move as P&L is able to absorb restructuring related cost.

 

On the other hand, having retrenchment when the biz in red is bad.

 

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