Baal Supersonic March 16, 2014 Share March 16, 2014 http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/03/16/the-alternative-news-in-1-day-80-cant-open-archives-after-50-years/ The Alternative News in 1 day? (80) – Can’t open archives after 50 years? March 16th, 2014 | Author: Contributions I refer to the article “Release of all past cabinet records may not lead to better outcomes: Lawrence Wong” (Today, Mar 11). Transparency may not lead to better outcomes? It states that “But Mr Lawrence Wong, Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Senior Minister of State for Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI), refuted him, saying that such an open policy may not necessarily lead to better outcomes.” - I am rather puzzled by the reasons given in the subject Parliamentary debate as to why the record of archives which are more than 50 years old, cannot be made public. How can being transparent 50 years later – “may not necessarily lead to better outcomes”? Better outcomes in the future or in the past? Wouldn’t transparency and accountability lead to “better outcomes” now and in the future? Or are we referring to the “outcomes” of our history that cannot be changed? As to “Responding, Mr Wong said the National Archives of Singapore (NAS) does make available public archives for inspection for research and reference. Requests can be made at the NAS’s reading room, and the NAS will consult the relevant agency about providing access to these records. No transparency 50 years later because of “personal privacy”? But while all unclassified information is made available upon request, there are some records which are not available for open access, including those relating to national defence, foreign relations and internal security, as well as documents which may be bound by confidentiality obligations or personal privacy reasons, said Mr Wong.” - What are we saying here? That transparency of Government (and we are not even talking about accountability here) should be subservient to “personal privacy” and “confidentiality obligations”‘ reasons – 50 years after the event! If politicians are so concerned about “personal privacy” 50 years later – perhaps they should not become politicians in the first place. Less transparency = Good governance? With regard to “Mr Wong countered that the Government’s approach “is not transparency for transparency’s sake”, but transparency that leads to good governance.” - I find this to be somewhat self-contradictory. The fundamental basis of “good governance” is transparency and accountability. Check and balance? Our system of democracy which we inherited from the British is fundamentally based on the check and balance of Parliament, the Judiciary and the Executive (Government). So, how can “not being transparent” lead to “good governance”? In respect of “He pointed out that some countries have “gone somewhat overboard with freedom of information legislation or open access”, leading instead to the opaqueness and avoidance of records. - Can we have the names of these countries and an elaboration as to how it has lead “instead to the opaqueness and avoidance of records”? Civil servants won’t record real minutes of meetings? As to “Policy papers or cabinet papers may not have complete information or detail because the civil servants writing them know that the reports will be made available, he said. “I think we have to be careful of such inadvertent consequences.” - What are we saying here? That our highest paid civil servants who have been touted as the most incorruptible and efficient in the world – may not write a correct record of meetings because of the fear that they may be made public 50 years later? Wouldn’t all the people present at the meeting be able to see when the minutes are out – if the civil servant had in fact not written ä factual record of the meeting? If even now we have such an in my view “unfounded” fear – then is there not something wrong with the type of people that we are recruiting into the civil service? – Whatever happened to the values, continual emphasis on integrity and public duty, and training that we are inculcating in them? Why pay the highest salaries in the world – only to arguably, have civil servants who cannot be trusted or relied upon to do their job? “Tian You Yan”? In the final analysis, if I may use the analogy of a Chinese saying “Tian You Yan” (God has eyes) – by not being transparent 50 years after the fact, may have the opposite effect of inculcating a breed of politicians who may not do the right thing – in the comfort that their actions and deliberations may never be subject to the court of public opinion 50 years later. Perhaps we shoud have a compromise by allowing the opening of the Cabinet archives only after all the persons who were in the Cabinet at that time, are long dead and gone. Leong Sze Hian Leong is the Past President of the Society of Financial Service Professionals, an alumnus of Harvard University, has authored 4 books, quoted over 1500 times in the media , has been host of a money radio show, a daily newspaper column, Wharton Fellow, SEACeM Fellow, columnist for Malaysiakini, executive producer of the movie Ilo Ilo (26 international awards). He has served as Honorary Consul of Jamaica and founding advisor to the Financial Planning Associations of Brunei and Indonesia. He has 3 Masters, 2 Bachelors and 13 professional qualifications. He blogs at www.leongszehian.com ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator March 16, 2014 Share March 16, 2014 I begin to suspect you are Leong Sze Hian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic March 16, 2014 Author Share March 16, 2014 I begin to suspect you are Leong Sze Hian [rolleyes] bo lah. My england not so steady & not so savvy as him, know how to go which sites to dig for info. I only 3rd class.....when I see something from him which I think makes some sense, I will share. The way he he searches, analyzes, create charts to illustrate......i'm outta his league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahwhye 5th Gear March 17, 2014 Share March 17, 2014 KNN who dare to open the Pandora box .... esp when the old man and son still around... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldbug 6th Gear March 17, 2014 Share March 17, 2014 Think that Leong fellow eat too full liao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celicar Turbocharged March 18, 2014 Share March 18, 2014 Transparency may not lead to better outcomes? I can say from personal experience that transparency may not lead to better outcomes. Last time my maths teacher used a lot of transparency to write things and I copy a lot of notes home to study, but my results still very bad. No transparency 50 years later because of “personal privacy”? I think no transparency 50 years later is because we got those new projectors to project and display straight from laptop or computer screens, so transparency become obsolete. Less transparency = Good governance? Yes I think so. At least no need to use so many markers and the teacher also don't have to keep staring at the light from the OHP to write things. Transparency may not lead to better outcomes? No transparency 50 years later because of “personal privacy”? Less transparency = Good governance? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic March 18, 2014 Share March 18, 2014 Transparency may not lead to better outcomes? I can say from personal experience that transparency may not lead to better outcomes. Last time my maths teacher used a lot of transparency to write things and I copy a lot of notes home to study, but my results still very bad. No transparency 50 years later because of “personal privacy”? I think no transparency 50 years later is because we got those new projectors to project and display straight from laptop or computer screens, so transparency become obsolete. Less transparency = Good governance? Yes I think so. At least no need to use so many markers and the teacher also don't have to keep staring at the light from the OHP to write things. [laugh] Your "transparency" is different lah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator March 18, 2014 Share March 18, 2014 Transparency may not lead to better outcomes? I can say from personal experience that transparency may not lead to better outcomes. Last time my maths teacher used a lot of transparency to write things and I copy a lot of notes home to study, but my results still very bad. No transparency 50 years later because of “personal privacy”? I think no transparency 50 years later is because we got those new projectors to project and display straight from laptop or computer screens, so transparency become obsolete. Less transparency = Good governance? Yes I think so. At least no need to use so many markers and the teacher also don't have to keep staring at the light from the OHP to write things. muahahaha...knn. u work in sgag ah...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count-Bracula Twincharged March 18, 2014 Share March 18, 2014 (edited) KNN who dare to open the Pandora box .... esp when the old man and son still around... Sun Wu Kong? Puo luo puo luo mi . . . Edited March 18, 2014 by Count-Bracula Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged March 18, 2014 Share March 18, 2014 Aiyah, is means simple la. Singapore got many secrets, cannot tell you. Tell you must kill you. In all seriousness, this just confirms that our Govt works in a "I do things, you accept and shut up" kind of way. Always has been, always will be. No need to talk about accountability and transparency and all that shit. It will never happen with this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Supercharged March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 we need to find out what's the real objective of releasing records. How the release will help the public in any way? our country history has alot of dealing with our neighbors. which means there were alot of policies that were made, to safeguard SG interests, to protect ourselves, including under the belt ones ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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