Rollagt 5th Gear November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 I personally support water rationing exercise once a while, let those younger people wake up to the idea not to waste water ! Ladies who spend 1 hour in shower, please wake up ! Or cut your hair shorter, spend less on expensive hair products and save the environment. LOL ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 I personally support water rationing exercise once a while, let those younger people wake up to the idea not to waste water ! Ladies who spend 1 hour in shower, please wake up ! Or cut your hair shorter, spend less on expensive hair products and save the environment. LOL I think they use water in other ways 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollagt 5th Gear November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 I think they use water in other ways I think I know what you mean. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 I think I know what you mean. LOL tiagong is jin song ones but will strip off the natural layer of protection 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Nowadays like no more such water rationing exercise liao. I remember last time they purposely turn off the whole block water supply and civil defence will come with a big water tank truck. We had to queue to collect free water for our day's use. My mum used to store lots of pails of water before they turned off the mains. We should do this more often, each estate one block per weekend. Like that we get free water and SCDF or PUB boys get some real life training. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Nowadays like no more such water rationing exercise liao. I remember last time they purposely turn off the whole block water supply and civil defence will come with a big water tank truck. We had to queue to collect free water for our day's use. My mum used to store lots of pails of water before they turned off the mains. We should do this more often, each estate one block per weekend. Like that we get free water and SCDF or PUB boys get some real life training. Civil Defence water is free right ?? .... everyone also happy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Civil Defence water is free right ?? .... everyone also happy Not sure abt now. Last time, in the 90's, where I last experience water ration exercise, it was free. But one person one pail at a time. If you want additional, have to re-queue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktglfc Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Not sure abt now. Last time, in the 90's, where I last experience water ration exercise, it was free. But one person one pail at a time. If you want additional, have to re-queue. I experienced too ... helped parents to carry pails up to 15th flr ... tired leh 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Not sure abt now. Last time, in the 90's, where I last experience water ration exercise, it was free. But one person one pail at a time. If you want additional, have to re-queue. In the late '60's when we shifted to our house from Eunos kampung to a shophouse type of house with big spiral staircase balcony on top ; the previous owner left behind a huge galvanised steel drum and my mum told me it was for water rationing in those days; not knowing what to do with it, i grew plants in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Supercharged November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 In the late '60's when we shifted to our house from Eunos kampung to a shophouse type of house with big spiral staircase balcony on top ; the previous owner left behind a huge galvanised steel drum and my mum told me it was for water rationing in those days; not knowing what to do with it, i grew plants in it many of us in younger generation never had experience in water rationing before.......... our life is too rosy here....... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 (edited) many of us in younger generation never had experience in water rationing before.......... our life is too rosy here....... Agree fully; but its so fast life paced now! .... that the slightest inconvenience...... people go beserk and blame govt for anything.... but really our Men in Blue also people don't fear anymore ; In the old days in the 60's/70's even shadow of polis we kids also scared; some more they wear those khaki shorts only - can sprint faster I guess Edited November 18, 2015 by BanCoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 A sure sign of price of water to increase....no surprise Singapore's water success has H2O expert worried Prof Biswas said his passion for water did not come naturally. "I did not choose water. It chose me."ST PHOTO: TAMARA CRAIU PUBLISHED4 HOURS AGO FACEBOOK107TWITTEREMAIL People here taking free flow of clean water for granted: Prof Biswas Carolyn Khew When it comes to water, Singapore may be a victim of its own success, says world renowned water expert Asit Biswas. Water supplies are drying up at an unprecedented rate. But with the authorities here so efficient at making such effects invisible at the turn of the tap, Singapore residents continue to take a free flow of fresh, clean water for granted, Professor Biswas believes. So if he had his way, he would increase water prices here by 30 per cent immediately. "In my view, water prices should have been increased a long time ago," he said, pointing out that they have remained stagnant for nearly 16 years. Prof Biswas, who a decade ago won the Stockholm Water Prize - considered the water industry's Nobel Prize - for his outstanding contributions to global water resource issues, added: "Singaporeans now use water profligately for all household chores, as well as for bathing and hygienic purposes." According to national water agency PUB, the price of potable water for domestic households is currently about $1.50 per cubic metre, or 1,000 litres, (not including GST) for households using 40 cubic m or less per month. Each Singapore resident uses 150 litres of water per day, enough to fill almost two bathtubs. Every year, PUB conducts more than 400,000 water quality tests. ST FILE PHOTO Tap water: Distilling the facts How much do you know about the water you are drinking? The Straits Times gets PUB to answer some burning questions ahead of World Water Day tomorrow. Q Is it necessary to boil tap water before I drink it? A Tap water in Singapore is perfectly safe to drink. The quality of our tap water is well within World Health Organisation guidelines for drinking water quality and the United States Environmental Protection Agency drinking water standards. So unless one requires hot water, there is no need for further boiling, which would be a waste of energy. Every year, PUB conducts more than 400,000 quality tests on the water supplied to customers to ensure that it is entirely wholesome. Q What about installing water treatment or filtration devices, such as water filters and purifiers? A PUB generally discourages the use of such point-of-use filters because bacteria will grow on the filters if they are not kept clean, maintained or replaced regularly. And this may actually foul the tap water that passes through this type of device. There is no need for filters or other point-of-use gadgets that are being peddled in the marketplace for a tidy sum. Q But is the potable water from the tap still clean enough to drink after running through the water pipes? A At PUB waterworks, water is treated and then disinfected using chlorine. Residual chlorine is also present in the water as it moves through the distribution system, all the way to the customer's tap, in order to keep it safe for drinking. It is the residual chlorine in tap water that keeps it germ-free. For those who are more sensitive to its smell or taste, just let the water sit for a while before drinking it. Q How much does a bottle of mineral water typically cost compared to tap water? A A 600ml bottle of drinking water typically costs from 50 cents to $1 when bought at a convenience store or supermarket. For the same amount of tap water, our customers pay only 0.1 cent. So perfectly potable tap water can be 1,000 times cheaper than bottled water. By all means ask for PUB tap water in a restaurant. It will be as good, and probably better, than any expensive bottled water. Carolyn Khew This is far more than the usage in other cities with comparable standards of living, such as Estonia's capital Tallinn, Europe's most water-saving city, where each person uses 95 litres daily, Prof Biswas pointed out. Water usage can be cut easily by substituting a mop for floor washing, in place of high-pressure water jets often seen in housing estates, for instance, and by using non-potable water for watering plants. His advice comes at a time when sustainable water demand has become imperative. With climate change expected to show more pronounced effects, dry spells are only going to become more pronounced within the next two to four decades. "Singapore needs to think in terms of drought. Analysis has indicated that there may be periods where we may have one- to three- year droughts in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia," said Prof Biswas, who is also Distinguished Visiting Professor at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore (NUS). Currently, Singapore gets about half of its water from Malaysia. Therefore, dry weather across the Causeway is a double whammy for the Republic. Two months ago, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli revealed thatJohor's Linggiu Reservoir was half empty. This is a far cry from a level of about 80 per cent at the start of last year. The 55 sq km reservoir is five times larger than all of Singapore's reservoirs combined, and the Republic built it upstream of the Johor River in 1994, so that it can collect and release rainwater to push seawater back into the sea. This ensures that the river water is not too salty to be treated by the Singapore-run water treatment plant there. Singapore residents, however, do not feel the impact of serious dry spells because the PUB runs desalination and Newater plants at high capacity to mitigate the impact of lower rainfall. This cannot continue, said Prof Biswas, who advises 19 governments around the world, including China and Brazil, on water policy issues. "Singapore has to move from supply management to thinking very seriously about how to manage the demands, both for the present and the future," he warned. Besides, water prices now are not commensurate with rising household incomes and inflation, said Prof Biswas, who is also the founder of the Third World Centre for Water Management in Mexico. Sixteen years ago, the median employed resident household income here was $4,398. Water bills represented 0.69 per cent of income based on 20 cubic m of water monthly. But by 2014, the household income had increased to $8,292 and the water bill represented just 0.36 per cent of its monthly income. When contacted, a PUB spokesman said the answer to long-term water sustainability is source diversification. "We have to move towards drought-resistant sources like reuse (that is, Newater) and desalination. These, however, are more energy-intensive, and hence more expensive, sources of water," she said. "Therein lies the challenge. We can become more resilient to climate change, but at the cost of expending more energy." The PUB declined to say if it will be increasing water prices. Prof Biswas said he and his wife are "seriously considering" becoming Singapore permanent residents, as both love the working environment at NUS - where they are academics - and the "quality and intelligence" of the Republic's politicians and civil servants. He admits, however, that his passion for water did not come naturally. The 76-year-old Indian-born Canadian, who is now based in Singapore, said he was interested in soil mechanics initially. But that space was filled, and water had been the only subject left for him to teach at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow, Scotland back in 1963. The subject slowly grew on him. "It's serendipity. I did not choose water. It chose me," he said. Water also brought joy to his life in other ways. Prof Biswas, who graduated with a PhD in engineering from the University of Strathclyde, met his wife, Dr Cecilia Tortajada - thanks to water. They met in the 1990s when Prof Biswas was advising the government of Mexico on water policy. "There were very few scientists who spoke English fluently," he explained. "She was one of them, so that's how we met." 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 A sure sign of price of water to increase....no surprise Singapore's water success has H2O expert worried Prof Biswas said his passion for water did not come naturally. "I did not choose water. It chose me."ST PHOTO: TAMARA CRAIU PUBLISHED4 HOURS AGO FACEBOOK107TWITTEREMAIL People here taking free flow of clean water for granted: Prof Biswas Carolyn Khew When it comes to water, Singapore may be a victim of its own success, says world renowned water expert Asit Biswas. Water supplies are drying up at an unprecedented rate. But with the authorities here so efficient at making such effects invisible at the turn of the tap, Singapore residents continue to take a free flow of fresh, clean water for granted, Professor Biswas believes. So if he had his way, he would increase water prices here by 30 per cent immediately. "In my view, water prices should have been increased a long time ago," he said, pointing out that they have remained stagnant for nearly 16 years. Prof Biswas, who a decade ago won the Stockholm Water Prize - considered the water industry's Nobel Prize - for his outstanding contributions to global water resource issues, added: "Singaporeans now use water profligately for all household chores, as well as for bathing and hygienic purposes." According to national water agency PUB, the price of potable water for domestic households is currently about $1.50 per cubic metre, or 1,000 litres, (not including GST) for households using 40 cubic m or less per month. Each Singapore resident uses 150 litres of water per day, enough to fill almost two bathtubs. Every year, PUB conducts more than 400,000 water quality tests. ST FILE PHOTO Tap water: Distilling the facts How much do you know about the water you are drinking? The Straits Times gets PUB to answer some burning questions ahead of World Water Day tomorrow. Q Is it necessary to boil tap water before I drink it? A Tap water in Singapore is perfectly safe to drink. The quality of our tap water is well within World Health Organisation guidelines for drinking water quality and the United States Environmental Protection Agency drinking water standards. So unless one requires hot water, there is no need for further boiling, which would be a waste of energy. Every year, PUB conducts more than 400,000 quality tests on the water supplied to customers to ensure that it is entirely wholesome. Q What about installing water treatment or filtration devices, such as water filters and purifiers? A PUB generally discourages the use of such point-of-use filters because bacteria will grow on the filters if they are not kept clean, maintained or replaced regularly. And this may actually foul the tap water that passes through this type of device. There is no need for filters or other point-of-use gadgets that are being peddled in the marketplace for a tidy sum. Q But is the potable water from the tap still clean enough to drink after running through the water pipes? A At PUB waterworks, water is treated and then disinfected using chlorine. Residual chlorine is also present in the water as it moves through the distribution system, all the way to the customer's tap, in order to keep it safe for drinking. It is the residual chlorine in tap water that keeps it germ-free. For those who are more sensitive to its smell or taste, just let the water sit for a while before drinking it. Q How much does a bottle of mineral water typically cost compared to tap water? A A 600ml bottle of drinking water typically costs from 50 cents to $1 when bought at a convenience store or supermarket. For the same amount of tap water, our customers pay only 0.1 cent. So perfectly potable tap water can be 1,000 times cheaper than bottled water. By all means ask for PUB tap water in a restaurant. It will be as good, and probably better, than any expensive bottled water. Carolyn Khew This is far more than the usage in other cities with comparable standards of living, such as Estonia's capital Tallinn, Europe's most water-saving city, where each person uses 95 litres daily, Prof Biswas pointed out. Water usage can be cut easily by substituting a mop for floor washing, in place of high-pressure water jets often seen in housing estates, for instance, and by using non-potable water for watering plants. His advice comes at a time when sustainable water demand has become imperative. With climate change expected to show more pronounced effects, dry spells are only going to become more pronounced within the next two to four decades. "Singapore needs to think in terms of drought. Analysis has indicated that there may be periods where we may have one- to three- year droughts in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia," said Prof Biswas, who is also Distinguished Visiting Professor at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore (NUS). Currently, Singapore gets about half of its water from Malaysia. Therefore, dry weather across the Causeway is a double whammy for the Republic. Two months ago, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli revealed thatJohor's Linggiu Reservoir was half empty. This is a far cry from a level of about 80 per cent at the start of last year. The 55 sq km reservoir is five times larger than all of Singapore's reservoirs combined, and the Republic built it upstream of the Johor River in 1994, so that it can collect and release rainwater to push seawater back into the sea. This ensures that the river water is not too salty to be treated by the Singapore-run water treatment plant there. Singapore residents, however, do not feel the impact of serious dry spells because the PUB runs desalination and Newater plants at high capacity to mitigate the impact of lower rainfall. This cannot continue, said Prof Biswas, who advises 19 governments around the world, including China and Brazil, on water policy issues. "Singapore has to move from supply management to thinking very seriously about how to manage the demands, both for the present and the future," he warned. Besides, water prices now are not commensurate with rising household incomes and inflation, said Prof Biswas, who is also the founder of the Third World Centre for Water Management in Mexico. Sixteen years ago, the median employed resident household income here was $4,398. Water bills represented 0.69 per cent of income based on 20 cubic m of water monthly. But by 2014, the household income had increased to $8,292 and the water bill represented just 0.36 per cent of its monthly income. When contacted, a PUB spokesman said the answer to long-term water sustainability is source diversification. "We have to move towards drought-resistant sources like reuse (that is, Newater) and desalination. These, however, are more energy-intensive, and hence more expensive, sources of water," she said. "Therein lies the challenge. We can become more resilient to climate change, but at the cost of expending more energy." The PUB declined to say if it will be increasing water prices. Prof Biswas said he and his wife are "seriously considering" becoming Singapore permanent residents, as both love the working environment at NUS - where they are academics - and the "quality and intelligence" of the Republic's politicians and civil servants. He admits, however, that his passion for water did not come naturally. The 76-year-old Indian-born Canadian, who is now based in Singapore, said he was interested in soil mechanics initially. But that space was filled, and water had been the only subject left for him to teach at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow, Scotland back in 1963. The subject slowly grew on him. "It's serendipity. I did not choose water. It chose me," he said. Water also brought joy to his life in other ways. Prof Biswas, who graduated with a PhD in engineering from the University of Strathclyde, met his wife, Dr Cecilia Tortajada - thanks to water. They met in the 1990s when Prof Biswas was advising the government of Mexico on water policy. "There were very few scientists who spoke English fluently," he explained. "She was one of them, so that's how we met." time to stack washing machines! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoob Supercharged March 21, 2016 Author Share March 21, 2016 Finally after 2 years... someone shares the same thought as me... complacency for our water supply... BUT I definitely disagree on the pricing part... Always using money to solve problem... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 talking about water price, our water (bottled water) price here is damn ex. cheapest bottled water is $1/L. oil price is us$40/barrel or sg 35 cents/L. more ex than oil! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 talking about water price, our water (bottled water) price here is damn ex. cheapest bottled water is $1/L. oil price is us$40/barrel or sg 35 cents/L. more ex than oil! Where u get petrol so cheap ? Which petrol station? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 talking about water price, our water (bottled water) price here is damn ex. cheapest bottled water is $1/L. oil price is us$40/barrel or sg 35 cents/L. more ex than oil! This is always an option for bottled water - Use your own tumbler and fill up. It is free. But there is no alternative to petrol, unless one drives an electric car. (BTW cost is 1 bottled water is less than 10 cents, mostly logistics and packaging. The water is probably less than 1 cent.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Supercharged March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 Finally after 2 years... someone shares the same thought as me... complacency for our water supply... BUT I definitely disagree on the pricing part... Always using money to solve problem... We should have campaigns to education people about water saving, just like current Dengue campaign that is ongoing now. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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