Bystander50 5th Gear February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 I sincerely hope Singtel would start charging whatsapp company money But I also hope whatsapp co won't pay When massive subscribers migrate to other telcos, I love to see stinktel kneel down and say sorry to whatsapp co And when stinktel say sorry, I hope whatsapp co will never allow them to carry the services anymore Once stinktel loses massive subscribers, I hope to see liquidators come in to slaughter the fat cats Already we have seen such destructive revenue policies, at the public detriment, in mrt Now a glc wants to do the same? Wow! 2016 bros! Squeeze stinktel where it really hurt the most, their bosses balls Don't forget last time who spoil the World Cup market by bidding high high? Don't forget when the govt allowed other operators to come in, the fixed line fees dropped from $20 plus to less than $10? All hail the Internet! They'll not say sorry, they'll say go into partnership and invest ... blah blah blah. Ever since Stinktel overcharged me for something which I did not even use, I paid up, contract up and never ever looked back. Although eventually other telcos will follow suit, at least boycott the one who came out with the idea. When the masses boycott, in future, no others will dare take the lead. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 Now, let's get this straight. They want to charge a value added service for Whatsapp. It doesn't mean whatsapp is banned on singtel right? You can continue to use it as normal right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 (edited) http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/02/27/hundreds-of-tiny-satellites-could-soon-deliver-free-internet-worldwide/ ‘Outernet’ poised to kiss censorship goodbye February 27th, 2014 | Author: Editorial Hundreds of tiny satellites encircle the earth. When the Media Development Authority (MDA) announced its slew of plans to regulate the Internet, many alternative news websites and bloggers – including members of the #FreeMyInternet group – were alarmed. They were gravely concerned that the PAP government was trying to censor and control what netizens could read on the Internet, thus ensuring that netizens read only “the right things”. These concerns are legitimate as Singapore has consistently fared poorly in Reporters Without Borders’ World Press Freedom Index. Just this month, the island nation placed a dismal 150th in the 2014 instalment of the annual index (‘SG’s World Press Freedom Index ranking drops to 150‘). But worry no more, for the Outernet is poised to kiss censorship goodbye for users of the worldwide web about a year from now. If the project bankrolled by the Media Development Investment Fund (MDIF) of New York is successful, it will be a boon for Internet users in information-restricted countries like China, North Korea and, arguably, Singapore. The Outernet project is currently at the technical assessment stage. MDIF plans to deploy a test satellite to see how long-range WiFi would work if it is beamed down by a tiny 10x10x10-centimeter payload called a CubeSat. If all goes as planned, a test CubeSat will be sent into orbit next January, and within a few years there could be hundreds of similar devices circling the Earth and sending down signals. Once that is accomplished, countries that largely censor the web would be hard-pressed to restrict Internet access. MDIF President Peter Whitehead told the National Journal recently: We exist to support the flow of independent news, information, and debate that people need to build free, thriving societies. [The Outernet has the potential to] enable fuller participation in public life, hold the powerful to account and protect the rights of the individual. To accomplish this though, MDIF is facing an uphill battle, at least with regards to funding. Sending hundreds of tiny WiFi-ready satellites into orbit is not as inexpensive as one might imagine. Getting just one tiny CubeSat into orbit could cost $100,000 or more, and slightly larger satellites being considered by Outernet could cost 3 times more. Syed Karim, MDIF’s director of innovation, told the National Journal’s Alex Brown that it would take only 3 years and $12 billion to get the project up and running. “[but] we don’t have $12 billion,” Karim said, “so we’ll do as much as we can with CubeSats and broadcast data.” “Broadcasting data,” Outernet says on its website, “allows citizens to reduce their reliance on costly internet data plans in places where monthly fees are too expensive for average citizens. And offering continuously updated web content from space bypasses censorship of the Internet.” About 40% of the planet currently does not have access to any sort of Internet service, the company says, but basic CubeSats could send one-way signals down to earth to deliver news or content through a “global notification system during emergencies and natural disasters,” according to its website. Access to knowledge and information is a human right and Outernet will guarantee this right by taking a practical approach to information delivery. By transmitting digital content to mobile devices, simple antennae and existing satellite dishes, a basic level of news, information, education and entertainment will be available to all of humanity. If Outernet can succeed in that noble mission, then they will start to figure a way to also let customers send data back to the CubeSats, ideally creating free, “two-way internet access for everyone” in a few years’ time. During a recent question-and-answer session on the website Reddit, Karim explained that the Outernet project is already more affordable because some of the most expensive aspects of the endeavor, at least with regards to research, have already been considered by other entrepreneurial space experts. Karim said: There isn’t a lot of raw research that is being done here; much of what is being described has already been proven by other small satellite programs and experiments. There’s really nothing that is technically impossible to this. But against telecoms operators trying to shut the project down before it gets off the ground, we will fight… and we will win. Meanwhile, his group is gunning to figure out how to make that dream a reality without going over budget. “We want to stay as small as possible, because size and weight are directly related to dollars,” Karim elaborated. “Much of the size is dictated by power requirements and the solar panels needed satisfy those requirements.” It is not known if MDA is even aware of the existence of Outernet, let alone if it has any plans to demand a “performance bond of $50,000″ or more from MDIF to broadcast its free signal to Singapore. Edited February 27, 2014 by Baal 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychay 6th Gear February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 Like that my unused talk time, data and sms can SingTel pay me back? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 Like that my unused talk time, data and sms can SingTel pay me back? go prepaid way. Pay only for what you used. Can use it as a pager also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckbuild 6th Gear February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 go prepaid way. Pay only for what you used. Can use it as a pager also. IIRC, need to pay additional to use whatsapp on prepaid... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 This may sound sadistic, but I think our greedy giant corporates (many of them Govt-linked too) need to experience a financial meltdown, similar to the 2008 US financial crisis. Only then will they learn. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pms 3rd Gear February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 (edited) Knn stinktel, my whatsap network usage for the past 2 years only 150mb, so 1 month only use about 6mb. Like that also wanna charge $6. 1G excess already charge $10. So how many cents would 6mb cost me for using whatsap? If you check your whatsap network usage, you be suprised how little data you used. Edited February 27, 2014 by Pms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 Anyway if you want can go download the app Telegram. It works the same way. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W210k 1st Gear February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 Like COEs for cars to LTA, if I were MDA, I'd view cellular telephony and data as a want, NOT a need. But if you need it, then for fcuks sake, pay for it! Nothing comes free. Like public transport, calls still can be made over land lines - no? Another measure that the MDA needs to take is the rampant downloading of copyrighted media (movies, songs and computer software) without payment (i.e., pirated material) - via bit torrent, or alike. I heard a policy on this will be put in place sooner, rather than later, with stiff fine penalties and even jail terms! I think Singapore is moving toward the right direction, if we want to attain full first-world status. Whatever 'we' have been doing for the past decades makes us no different from the third-world. Gutter oil anyone? :-o 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 Like COEs for cars to LTA, if I were MDA, I'd view cellular telephony and data as a want, NOT a need. But if you need it, then for fcuks sake, pay for it! Nothing comes free. Like public transport, calls still can be made over land lines - no? Another measure that the MDA needs to take is the rampant downloading of copyrighted media (movies, songs and computer software) without payment (i.e., pirated material) - via bit torrent, or alike. I heard a policy on this will be put in place sooner, rather than later, with stiff fine penalties and even jail terms! I think Singapore is moving toward the right direction, if we want to attain full first-world status. Whatever 'we' have been doing for the past decades makes us no different from the third-world. Gutter oil anyone? :-o I challenenge stinktel to start charging Facebook, the owner of what apps now I would love to see stinktel destroyed by its own foolishness just like smrt 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream 5th Gear February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 (edited) Like COEs for cars to LTA, if I were MDA, I'd view cellular telephony and data as a want, NOT a need. But if you need it, then for fcuks sake, pay for it! Nothing comes free. Like public transport, calls still can be made over land lines - no? Another measure that the MDA needs to take is the rampant downloading of copyrighted media (movies, songs and computer software) without payment (i.e., pirated material) - via bit torrent, or alike. I heard a policy on this will be put in place sooner, rather than later, with stiff fine penalties and even jail terms! I think Singapore is moving toward the right direction, if we want to attain full first-world status. Whatever 'we' have been doing for the past decades makes us no different from the third-world. Gutter oil anyone? :-o so by doing these and those we can become first world? First world country or first world government or first world-whatever? What so good about becoming first world when most struggle to make a decent living? Edited February 28, 2014 by Dream 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckbuild 6th Gear February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 KNN, today all over the news saying that we misunderstand what she mean.... Want to see how to collaborate with Whatsapp and how they can charge whatsapp from there blah blah blah, saw the power of users retaliate already now scare shit right! Think before say lor! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 Nah...Hitler also fedup.... http://youtu.be/S51IGRx-cuQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodtviedt 2nd Gear February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 KNN, today all over the news saying that we misunderstand what she mean.... Want to see how to collaborate with Whatsapp and how they can charge whatsapp from there blah blah blah, saw the power of users retaliate already now scare shit right! Think before say lor! I think all along was a statement to call for rights to charge WhatsApp and Skype, its the online community with a political agenda that sensationalize the distorted picture. TRS, for one, used the title "Singtel CEO wants to charge customers for using Skype and Whatsapp" previously until they changed it to "SINGTEL CEO WANTS TO CHARGE SKYPE AND WHATSAPP FOR USING THEIR NETWORK SERVICES" recently only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosaybo 6th Gear February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 though the charge is for those without prepaid plan but still wants to connect using watsapp. Existing user with data plan not included. More like a new add on plan for pre-paid card users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH_CO 6th Gear February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 What do u expect when you let woman with moles to be at top ? Look at the ruins which is caused by our temasek ceo's appointments of women on top. Singtel , posted a lower profit due to involvement to soccer , SMRT weekly breakdowns and more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator February 28, 2014 Share February 28, 2014 though the charge is for those without prepaid plan but still wants to connect using watsapp. Existing user with data plan not included. More like a new add on plan for pre-paid card users. those are the add-on services, nothing to do with what she recent speech. What she talk about is inline with whatsapp wanted to do which is charging user on yearly basis but have not implemented yet. Maybe when the talk with the telco on the fee, they might start doing so in future, especially when they launch the voice app. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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