Darryn Turbocharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 I don't understand this kind of cheating - at the end of the day, how much can save on gas as a proportion of total operating costs? Seems rather foolish to me.. and remember, the fine will be "per instance" - so it might get very expensive very fast (remember the guy that got into trouble for 20+ red plate cheating instances) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthrevan Supercharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 I don't understand this kind of cheating - at the end of the day, how much can save on gas as a proportion of total operating costs? quite a small sum it seems..assuming: 24 restaurants x $10k/month x 12 months = $2.88m saved per annum 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opel17 6th Gear January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 If I know how I will also do the same. LoL.. Seals meant to secure the bypass valve of gas meters were found missing. In some instances, the position of the valve was moved from "closed" to "open", allowing gas to flow without registering on the meters. This is somewhat like bike enter carpark via pavement, instead of via the entry ticket machine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_prince Supersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 I don't understand this kind of cheating - at the end of the day, how much can save on gas as a proportion of total operating costs? Seems rather foolish to me.. and remember, the fine will be "per instance" - so it might get very expensive very fast (remember the guy that got into trouble for 20+ red plate cheating instances) sedikit-sedikit lama-lama jadi bukit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_prince Supersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 Seals meant to secure the bypass valve of gas meters were found missing. In some instances, the position of the valve was moved from "closed" to "open", allowing gas to flow without registering on the meters. This is somewhat like bike enter carpark via pavement, instead of via the entry ticket machine. would never expect to see such systematic cheating from such an establishment.... those small mom &pop cze char stall, maybe.... but a proper restaurant with 20+ branches? c'mon if 1 or 2 branch do that, maybe branch manager hand itchy. so many branches, means it's probably orders from above. shame on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 quite a small sum it seems..assuming: 24 restaurants x $10k/month x 12 months = $2.88m saved per annum While that sounds like, and is a lot of money - it would need to be put into the context of total operating costs, and also of total gas costs. I was doing a quick google to see if I could get some info on how much gas a restaurant uses on a daily basis - but this seems to be rather difficult. My out-right guess would be that your figure of $10k would be more about right for the total month supply - and you can'r really expect to get away with recording a zero gas use right? At most - what? 50% cheat - is it really worth it given the penalities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 seriously, if they cheat on something so basic like gas expenses for a restaurant. i really shudder to think what other cost cutting practices the management has put in place. It's definitely systemic since so many branches involved. i won't eat there again. ingredients may be cheong one also ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_Zai 3rd Gear January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 Is that an honest mistake? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 seriously, if they cheat on something so basic like gas expenses for a restaurant. i really shudder to think what other cost cutting practices the management has put in place. It's definitely systemic since so many branches involved. i won't eat there again. ingredients may be cheong one also ... I bet many other kitchens do the same. As for food the taste do not lie. Their customers not stupid. They are also not the dumb to tarnish their own signboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count-Bracula Twincharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 What a load of GAZ! WHY THEY LIKE DAT!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count-Bracula Twincharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 hmmmm........... next time eating at the restuarant, will ask the waiter, cook by gas or charcoal ..... If they want cheap affordable gas, I can supply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camrysfa Turbocharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 Think this SG restaurant group could have 'saved' a few hundred K. This 2012 HK report is abt a gang of 90 ppl doing the same thing; restaurants involved; HK can mete upto 14 years jail. How about SG? Police have rounded up more than 90 people suspected of participating in a widespread meter-tampering scheme - thought to have cost gas and power providers HK$30 million - to help restaurants lower their utility bills. Authorities launched an operation eight days ago after receiving a tip-off about the practice, which involves more than 100 cafes, canteens, hot-pot shops and restaurants spread across Hong Kong Island, Kowloon and the New Territories, police said. In all, 93 were arrested in "Operation Toughminer" - 80 men and 13 women, aged 25 to 69. Those arrested include the owners of the establishments and other people believed to have tampered with meters. Five of the suspects have been charged with conspiracy to defraud. The others were released pending further investigations. Police said the owners and managers of the businesses gave at least some of the money they saved to other, unnamed individuals involved in the scheme. As evidence, police seized 62 gas meters, 29 power meters, a cache of tools and two private cars. Authorities have warned members of the public not to tamper with the meters that public utilities rely on to fairly administer charges. The police said that, under the Theft Ordinance, business owners who approve or allow people to tamper with their utility meters could be charged with fraud and face sentences of up to 14 years in prison. The police said the operation was conducted in co-operation with the public utilities and that authorities would continue to work with the utility companies to combat crime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 Ok question from a different direction: Would any of this tampering or by-passing or whatever they did constitute as a safety hazard? Because you don't wanna fook around with gas explosions. If got safety violations, hoot them with that also (although we know in Singapore first priority is ah gong's money, safety is secondary). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotr 6th Gear January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 Next time better don't go already, they will also increase prices or reduce portion size in order to maintain margins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 I bet many other kitchens do the same. As for food the taste do not lie. Their customers not stupid. They are also not the dumb to tarnish their own signboard. There are a lot of things that taste similar but are not what u paid for. For example fake shark fin is aplenty. Taste the same also. i guess if normal cze char then nvm lor, but restaurant i would be wary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 would never expect to see such systematic cheating from such an establishment.... those small mom &pop cze char stall, maybe.... but a proper restaurant with 20+ branches? c'mon if 1 or 2 branch do that, maybe branch manager hand itchy. so many branches, means it's probably orders from above. shame on them It is still tze char stall to me. Haha Nothing special at all. Food so so, service normal, deco obiang. What the big deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 It is still tze char stall to me. Haha Nothing special at all. Food so so, service normal, deco obiang. What the big deal? Actually the cream crab dish is nice to me.. Regular buyer of the char siew bun also.. But after this report.. Real turn off... All the qns the food all start popping up Actually the cream crab dish is nice to me.. Regular buyer of the char siew bun also.. But after this report.. Real turn off... All the qns abt the food all start popping up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 20, 2014 Share January 20, 2014 (edited) paradise, crystal kitchen, soup restaurant, dian xiao er, pu tien, etc ... variants of fancy tze char? It is still tze char stall to me. HahaNothing special at all.Food so so, service normal, deco obiang.What the big deal? Edited January 20, 2014 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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