SAF Colonel only fined $6,000 for traffic accident

[missmarigold]

45 year old Tan Yan Yee, a colonel in the Singapore Armed Forces, was fined $6,000 and had his license suspended for 3 years for causing the death of a pedestrian in 2011.

 

Tan had been driving along Yio Chu Kang Road at 8:14pm on November 13, 2011. He had failed to keep a proper lookout and as a result, hit an 86 year old pedestrian, Mr Lau Ing See, who was crossing the road.

 

Tan had argued that he was keeping a good lookout but the visibility on the night was bad and he was unable to see the pedestrian in time and by the time he did see Mr Lau, it was too late for him to stop.

 

He had said that it was raining moderately heavily and the victim was wearing dark clothing.

 

However, the court ruled that the rain was only a slight drizzle and there was fair visibility. Therefore, Tan should have been able to see the old man in time to stop and could have reasonably avoided the accident if he had been keeping a better lookout.

 

For his failure to keep a good look out for dangers while driving, Tan was fined $6,000 and had his licence suspended for 3 years.

 

Edited January 9, 2014 by missmarigold

[Neutrino]

If the court had believed he was keeping a good look out what would the result of the trial have been?

 

And when does the 3 year license suspention begin?

Edited January 9, 2014 by Neutrino

[Toothiewabbit]

 

 

 

 

45 year old Tan Yan Yee, a colonel in the Singapore Armed Forces, was fined $6,000 and had his license suspended for 3 years for causing the death of a pedestrian in 2011.

 

Tan had been driving along Yio Chu Kang Road at 8:14pm on November 13, 2011. He had failed to keep a proper lookout and as a result, hit an 86 year old pedestrian, Mr Lau Ing See, who was crossing the road.

 

Tan had argued that he was keeping a good lookout but the visibility on the night was bad and he was unable to see the pedestrian in time and by the time he did see Mr Lau, it was too late for him to stop.

 

He had said that it was raining moderately heavily and the victim was wearing dark clothing.

 

However, the court ruled that the rain was only a slight drizzle and there was fair visibility. Therefore, Tan should have been able to see the old man in time to stop and could have reasonably avoided the accident if he had been keeping a better lookout.

 

For his failure to keep a good look out for dangers while driving, Tan was fined $6,000 and had his licence suspended for 3 years.

 

Anyone can exprain the difference between a good lookout and a better lookout?

[Tarenn]

Just wondering and excuse my being a little offtrack, SAF colonel entitle to MID executive car?

[Vega]

Just wondering and excuse my being a little offtrack, SAF colonel entitle to MID executive car?

 

depending on appointment. even a major can entitled a MID car.

[Hydrocarbon]

Anyone can exprain the difference between a good lookout and a better lookout?

 

Good lookout = saw but not in time to do anything.

Better lookout = "to see the old man in time to stop and could have reasonably avoided the accident"

[Watwheels]

There were so many fatal accidents involving elderly folks it makes you wonder who's the real victim.

[Kusje]

So was the pedestrian jaywalking?

 

If he was, then this punishment is actually quite harsh. Even more so if the pedestrian had suddenly dashed out onto the road.

[ER-3682]

 

depending on appointment. even a major can entitled a MID car.

GP car.

[Watwheels]

So was the pedestrian jaywalking?

 

If he was, then this punishment is actually quite harsh. Even more so if the pedestrian had suddenly dashed out onto the road.

At 86 I doubt the elderly man knows what he's doing. It's kinda dangerous he's not being looked after and let him roam about on his own.

[Maseratigood]

 

Good lookout = saw but not in time to do anything.

Better lookout = "to see the old man in time to stop and could have reasonably avoided the accident"

 

 

Lookout is lookout wor, it has little to do with the actions resulting from the lookout. Seeing and doing something after seeing are two different activities, dio boh?

 

If you see someone attractive, this is a result of your keeping a lookout for attractive bodies. What you do after spotting the attractive body, and how fast your do it, will be the resulting actions, or stage 2 so to speak. Lookout is stage 1

 

Actually I am also not very sure.

 

Maybe to make it simple, Good Lookout = Lookout using normal eyes, Better Lookout = Lookout using an eagle's eyes... or bionic eyes.

 

I am more confused now.

[Count-Bracula]

 

 

 

 

45 year old Tan Yan Yee, a colonel in the Singapore Armed Forces, was fined $6,000 and had his license suspended for 3 years for causing the death of a pedestrian in 2011.

 

Tan had been driving along Yio Chu Kang Road at 8:14pm on November 13, 2011. He had failed to keep a proper lookout and as a result, hit an 86 year old pedestrian, Mr Lau Ing See, who was crossing the road.

 

Tan had argued that he was keeping a good lookout but the visibility on the night was bad and he was unable to see the pedestrian in time and by the time he did see Mr Lau, it was too late for him to stop.

 

He had said that it was raining moderately heavily and the victim was wearing dark clothing.

 

However, the court ruled that the rain was only a slight drizzle and there was fair visibility. Therefore, Tan should have been able to see the old man in time to stop and could have reasonably avoided the accident if he had been keeping a better lookout.

 

For his failure to keep a good look out for dangers while driving, Tan was fined $6,000 and had his licence suspended for 3 years.

 

Wah, this kind of standard can be colonel? What if got war . . . enemy appear in front of him and he cannot see then how? Edited January 9, 2014 by Count-Bracula

[Toothiewabbit]

Wah, this kind of standard can be colonel? What if got war . . . enemy appear in front of him and he cannot see then how?

Can be. Can be dead colonel lor.

[Toothiewabbit]

 

 

Lookout is lookout wor, it has little to do with the actions resulting from the lookout. Seeing and doing something after seeing are two different activities, dio boh?

 

If you see someone attractive, this is a result of your keeping a lookout for attractive bodies. What you do after spotting the attractive body, and how fast your do it, will be the resulting actions, or stage 2 so to speak. Lookout is stage 1

 

Actually I am also not very sure.

 

Maybe to make it simple, Good Lookout = Lookout using normal eyes, Better Lookout = Lookout using an eagle's eyes... or bionic eyes.

 

I am more confused now.

Dunch forget x-ray eyes

 

That's why I am curious how the courts ascertain if the accused did or did not give a proper lookout but yet, could not avoid hitting the pedestrian.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Toothiewabbit

[Neutrino]

So was the pedestrian jaywalking?

 

If he was, then this punishment is actually quite harsh. Even more so if the pedestrian had suddenly dashed out onto the road.

 

Yeah but you've introduced two 'ifs' there which presumably were answered in court.

 

One 'presumably' beats two 'ifs'.

[Kusje]

This probably means a criminal record and his SAF career is over ?

 

Don't officers retire at 45 anyway? Or has that changed?

[Alheych]

 

Don't officers retire at 45 anyway? Or has that changed?

 

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

When Tony Tan was Minister for Defence, the age was lowered to 42 so that people can start their second careers.

 

When Teo Chee Hean took over it was revised to 45 because 42 is really too young, and SAF turnover will be very high.

 

Now I believe it is back to 50. That's why they increase the range of ranks, CWO, SLTC etc so that there are more ranks to progress through. It is also not healthy for a defence force to have a constantly changing composition of manpower at the regular level.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Alheych

[Camrysfa]

This pix of him in Jul 13 - as Defence Attache in KL.

He seemed to have put on weight - stress?

 

Anybody can recall? Did the 86 year old cross at a pedestrain crossing?