ERP II tender may be called in early 2014

[Hydrocarbon]

  On 12/1/2013 at 1:29 AM, Dream said:

Really impressed with the effort and money put in to suck our $$...

If only they can put in the same amount (if not more) effort and money to improve our lives.... hiaz...

 

When got money to suck, must faster come up with plan to suck. When comes to helping the citizens, you must understand that the government cannot pay for everyone ok? Must work hard for yourself. You sick, your pasah.. Cannot pay medical bills, your pasah..

[Baal]

  On 11/30/2013 at 10:31 AM, Thaiyotakamli said:

So no need erp gantries?

In a way yes, because the big chunky erp gantry with a beep sound leaves a bad political after taste.

Hence, making a kill silently makes great sense from a political point of view.

[Nzy]

  On 11/30/2013 at 2:28 PM, Bystander50 said:

 

Anything that is man-made can be broken. Just takes some time to find the loopholes and weaknesses.

 

Like current ERP gantries, quite a number of people may have used fake plates and disconnected the IU, rendering any tracing of the vehcle owner impossible. LTA probably didn't announce these statistics to prevent more copycats.

 

It was also reported people stuffed a piece of cardboard between the contacts of the cashcard and IU so that the parking fees won't be deducted. It wasn't reported till a fix was found.

 

But how does it work? Isn't it the same as just not having a cash card in the IU?

[Gitanic]

 

display big enough to surf porn?

Edited December 3, 2013 by Gitanic

[Nzy]

  On 12/3/2013 at 6:34 AM, Baal said:

In a way yes, because the big chunky erp gantry with a beep sound leaves a bad political after taste.

Hence, making a kill silently makes great sense from a political point of view.

 

Yep. If they want to profit from it then making it silent will work better. People won't feel the pinch as much when they don't notice it. Only when the bill comes every month then they feel it. In the end, people will drive more unless its really so expensive.

Edited December 3, 2013 by Nzy

[Baal]

  On 12/3/2013 at 5:40 AM, Nightkids said:

remove coe?

 

wishful tinking.....at the most they will abolish road tax.....bcos buay tan lui.....as it is annually......

unless the satellite is island wide & ARF 200% ?

[Darthrevan]

  On 12/1/2013 at 1:35 AM, Kangadrool said:

Is this the reason why most exits on commercial buildings now requires you to slot cashcard manually into their machines? At first, I thought they were so kind and thoughtful - to prevent those on complimentary parking ticket from being charged at exit.

 

there are typically few types of EPS parking..one of which is fully auto and semi-auto which requires the driver to slot the cash card manually..the installation costs are different too

[Kangadrool]

  On 12/3/2013 at 8:07 AM, Darthrevan said:

 

there are typically few types of EPS parking..one of which is fully auto and semi-auto which requires the driver to slot the cash card manually..the installation costs are different too

 

oic, most of them are-> entrance = auto, exit = manual. Only HDB = fully auto. Lol.

 

[Bystander50]

  On 12/3/2013 at 6:45 AM, Nzy said:

 

But how does it work? Isn't it the same as just not having a cash card in the IU?

 

The IU's serial number is registered to the vehicle owner's name. So if you disconnect the power to it, it'll no longer be able to communicate with the sensors. If you remove your cashcard only, the IU is still communicating with the sensors.

 

Now, when your IU is disconnected, it won't be able to transmit any information to the sensors. The only way to track you will be via your vehicle number plate. Did you see the black and white strips across the road under the gantry? That will be used to detect vehicles crossing. That will trigger the camera to take a photo of the offending vehicle. With both identification methods removed, how do you think LTA can track you down?

 

For foreign vehicles without the IU where they have unlimited passes through the gantry daily for $5, the camera takes a photo of their number plate and updated into the system. This will be deducted from their Autopass card when they leave.

 

The black and white strips will have a certain threshold from the camera's vision. Assuming the camera is black and white, a vehicle crossing over the strip will render the whole strip white, thus changing the camera's vision threshold. That is how it detects the vehicle passing through it instead of using electronic sensors which are prone to failure after some time.

 

Using camera vision to detect is not something new or "world's first". Manufacturing factories are already using such technology to perform QC on their products. If you look at the packaging, you'll see some markings or spots, these are used for alignment and telling the software what and where to look out for. Using pattern recognition, the capturing of the vehicle number off the image can also be automated, without having an operator to manually enter each vehicle number into the system. Now you know why LTA forbids the use of fanciful number plates? Because the automated system may not be able to pick up the right thing correctly.

[Nzy]

  On 12/3/2013 at 12:29 PM, Bystander50 said:

 

The IU's serial number is registered to the vehicle owner's name. So if you disconnect the power to it, it'll no longer be able to communicate with the sensors. If you remove your cashcard only, the IU is still communicating with the sensors.

 

Now, when your IU is disconnected, it won't be able to transmit any information to the sensors. The only way to track you will be via your vehicle number plate. Did you see the black and white strips across the road under the gantry? That will be used to detect vehicles crossing. That will trigger the camera to take a photo of the offending vehicle. With both identification methods removed, how do you think LTA can track you down?

 

For foreign vehicles without the IU where they have unlimited passes through the gantry daily for $5, the camera takes a photo of their number plate and updated into the system. This will be deducted from their Autopass card when they leave.

 

The black and white strips will have a certain threshold from the camera's vision. Assuming the camera is black and white, a vehicle crossing over the strip will render the whole strip white, thus changing the camera's vision threshold. That is how it detects the vehicle passing through it instead of using electronic sensors which are prone to failure after some time.

 

Using camera vision to detect is not something new or "world's first". Manufacturing factories are already using such technology to perform QC on their products. If you look at the packaging, you'll see some markings or spots, these are used for alignment and telling the software what and where to look out for. Using pattern recognition, the capturing of the vehicle number off the image can also be automated, without having an operator to manually enter each vehicle number into the system. Now you know why LTA forbids the use of fanciful number plates? Because the automated system may not be able to pick up the right thing correctly.

 

I meant the part about the cardboard blocking the contacts of the cashcard. Isn't it the same as removing the cashcard?

[Evillusion]

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:56 AM, Knoobie said:

what a waste of money and time..

dont worry....a government link company will win the tender and then they will sub it out to a foreign company at 1/3 of the tender price....and that foreign company will llst!

[Bystander50]

  On 12/3/2013 at 1:52 PM, Nzy said:

 

I meant the part about the cardboard blocking the contacts of the cashcard. Isn't it the same as removing the cashcard?

Exact details of the flow I'm not sure. But the IU is capable of detecting if a cashcard is inserted or not.

So most likely the software may be written in such a way that the IU will reply to the sensor that the card is in the IU and initiates the deduction process. So if no card, it'll just wait and do nothing.

 

By stuffing a cardboard to break off the contact between the card and IU contacts, the IU unit is unable to make any deductions and write the final value onto the card. There may also be no verifications by the software to validate if the deduction is successful. Probably the sequence is write final balance to the card and it'll trigger the controller to lift the barrier.

[Csxcsxcsx]

don't see how this system would differ from the current one, a taxi uncle who enter and exit the area in 5 minutes would probably travel the same distance as a employee who parked his vehicle for the full day.

 

the only reason they are doing this is so that they could implement a distance based road tax in the future.

 

in any case i am interested in which subsidiary will win the contract and how much they will charge LTA for the system and each unit

[Blackyv]

What would happen to current gantry builder? No more new business or they will be building the new infrastructure?.. Ummm...