Do I need to change tire ?

[Jamesc]

I am sure it's worse than it looks right?

[Beregond]

  On 3/7/2022 at 7:18 AM, Jamesc said:

Small tear on my MIL tyre.

Nothing to worry about.

Use until die lah.

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actually like this still can save.

the wire not expose yet.

buy 1 elephant glue 1sgd nia. and the damage is repair

( i say 1 )

[Jamesc]

So troublesome.

I just put this.

  On 3/7/2022 at 7:25 AM, Beregond said:

actually like this still can save.

the wire not expose yet.

buy 1 elephant glue 1sgd nia. and the damage is repair

( i say 1 )

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[Roberttan]

  On 3/7/2022 at 4:52 AM, Darnpunk said:

Asking for opinion, would you replace tyre that has patch in sidewall area nearer to the inner part? Attached picture.

Some background.. I had to patch my new front left tyre last July 2021 at a tyre shop (1K mileage). Recently did 10K servicing and tyre rotation. So now it's at rear right. The mechanic advised if possible to replace the tyre as patch done on sidewall. For now to monitor regularly etc.

I read online those severe sidewall damage can cause tyre to burst which sounds scary. And minor ones 1/4 inch can be patched.

Can't really decide if mine can be considered minor or bad. I think if it was not repairable, the tyre workshop that I sent for patching would have advised me to replace?

Thinking of driving for another 5K or so, then replace all tyres. Or just replace the rear 2 now and then at next 10K, replace all.

What would you do?

 

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just my sharing

if you want 100% peace of Mind replace it.

you can TRY a method Internal seal with special material name PRP (although the manufacturers will not recommend),one of the purpose of 

this Internal repair allows the tire Mechanic to inspect internally for any hidden damaged or injury which may lead to tire Explosion as someone mentioned. 

repair is Repair please do not ask the Service provider is it safe to use the tire lol.

tires is the only 4 points between you and Road and tire only fails when working very hard like heavy load and high speed. 

do your Own Maths Safety against Money.

just MHO  

 

[Beregond]

  On 3/11/2022 at 2:58 AM, Roberttan said:

just my sharing

if you want 100% peace of Mind replace it.

you can TRY a method Internal seal with special material name PRP (although the manufacturers will not recommend),one of the purpose of 

this Internal repair allows the tire Mechanic to inspect internally for any hidden damaged or injury which may lead to tire Explosion as someone mentioned. 

repair is Repair please do not ask the Service provider is it safe to use the tire lol.

tires is the only 4 points between you and Road and tire only fails when working very hard like heavy load and high speed. 

do your Own Maths Safety against Money.

just MHO  

 

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at the corner there, internal repair make it worst😂

that area is very thin, internal repair, they still need to grind it. and that area flex alot.

poke a worm through, can work mean can, cannot mean change

[mersaylee]

  On 3/7/2022 at 7:18 AM, Jamesc said:

Small tear on my MIL tyre.

Nothing to worry about.

Use until die lah.

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How you inflict that tyre injury...aim straight at a big pothole?😁

[Roberttan]

  On 3/11/2022 at 3:46 AM, Beregond said:

at the corner there, internal repair make it worst😂

that area is very thin, internal repair, they still need to grind it. and that area flex alot.

poke a worm through, can work mean can, cannot mean change

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1 of the reason why internal repair can do is allow you to view internally for any hidden damaged which can not be seen from outside,

if you Poke from outside you will not have chance to view internally and external Poke can  make the Hole even bigger and may worsen the injury.

 

[DOBIEMKZ]

  On 3/11/2022 at 3:54 AM, mersaylee said:

How you inflict that tyre injury...aim straight at a big pothole?😁

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You know that he (Jxxxxc) is a masseur right??
That's how he trained his fingers.😁

[Mark5040]

Hi you are asking about Do I need to change tire?, for this you have to search on google.

[Yamapi]

Is it normal for tyres to turn brown at the sidewall? The tyres are Bridgestone Potenza Sport, about 2 months old

[Danieldoe]

Depending on the age and use of the tires, you can replace them. Read More@ car mechanic in Auckland

Edited May 23, 2022 by Danieldoe

[boonhat_91]

Hello MCFers, seeking expert opinions. Sometimes I drive my FIL's car, FD Civic stock. On more than one occasion I have experienced the rear sliding. Once was on some backroad corner in Johor, and again recently when making a u-turn from stationary in Sg. Both times, the road was wet, but speed was fairly low. Both times had 1 front passenger, both pax total weight no more than 170kg. My wife driving it on her own has also experienced multiple occasions of loss of rear traction, also on wet road on a bend she says. Tyres are not bald, mileage should be <20k. My wife and I had feedback this to my FIL before and supposedly his tyre shop checked and said all ok.

1. Could this be an alignment and/or suspension issue?

2. I know we like to bash cheap tyres here, but could these so easily lose traction (low speed turn in wet)? Fronts are Firenza ST-something and Rears are Rotalla Setula E-Race, all in stock 205/16 size. Which leads to...

3. Could the different brand/model in the front vs rear be the cause? If my FIL is really stubborn about using budget tyres, could just changing 2 tyres to follow the same brand/model be sufficient to stop these instances of low speed rear traction loss?

Thanks in advance!

[mersaylee]

  On 10/23/2022 at 5:14 AM, boonhat_91 said:

Hello MCFers, seeking expert opinions. Sometimes I drive my FIL's car, FD Civic stock. On more than one occasion I have experienced the rear sliding. Once was on some backroad corner in Johor, and again recently when making a u-turn from stationary in Sg. Both times, the road was wet, but speed was fairly low. Both times had 1 front passenger, both pax total weight no more than 170kg. My wife driving it on her own has also experienced multiple occasions of loss of rear traction, also on wet road on a bend she says. Tyres are not bald, mileage should be <20k. My wife and I had feedback this to my FIL before and supposedly his tyre shop checked and said all ok.

1. Could this be an alignment and/or suspension issue?

2. I know we like to bash cheap tyres here, but could these so easily lose traction (low speed turn in wet)? Fronts are Firenza ST-something and Rears are Rotalla Setula E-Race, all in stock 205/16 size. Which leads to...

3. Could the different brand/model in the front vs rear be the cause? If my FIL is really stubborn about using budget tyres, could just changing 2 tyres to follow the same brand/model be sufficient to stop these instances of low speed rear traction loss?

Thanks in advance!

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I'd rather use same tyres for front and rear regardless of age of both sets than to use new mixed tyres for each axle or side...16" tyres are cheap...I'd just change all 4 to see if issue persist then go from there...

[Mkl22]

  On 10/23/2022 at 5:14 AM, boonhat_91 said:

Hello MCFers, seeking expert opinions. Sometimes I drive my FIL's car, FD Civic stock. On more than one occasion I have experienced the rear sliding. Once was on some backroad corner in Johor, and again recently when making a u-turn from stationary in Sg. Both times, the road was wet, but speed was fairly low. Both times had 1 front passenger, both pax total weight no more than 170kg. My wife driving it on her own has also experienced multiple occasions of loss of rear traction, also on wet road on a bend she says. Tyres are not bald, mileage should be <20k. My wife and I had feedback this to my FIL before and supposedly his tyre shop checked and said all ok.

1. Could this be an alignment and/or suspension issue?

2. I know we like to bash cheap tyres here, but could these so easily lose traction (low speed turn in wet)? Fronts are Firenza ST-something and Rears are Rotalla Setula E-Race, all in stock 205/16 size. Which leads to...

3. Could the different brand/model in the front vs rear be the cause? If my FIL is really stubborn about using budget tyres, could just changing 2 tyres to follow the same brand/model be sufficient to stop these instances of low speed rear traction loss?

Thanks in advance!

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$250 decision lor. Change the rears to re004 which imho is good and relatively quiet. 
its shit tires and or suspension. Got thread doesn’t mean got grip. 
In the end not your car unless you want to change for him for free. Also how often you drive. Just heck it la. 
Wait till he langar then rub it in and say “limpeh tell to change, you stubborn old man don’t want to! Now langar lor, deserve it! “ 🤣

[Fcw75]

There’s always Tourandor. 😁

[DOBIEMKZ]

  On 10/23/2022 at 5:14 AM, boonhat_91 said:

Hello MCFers, seeking expert opinions. Sometimes I drive my FIL's car, FD Civic stock. On more than one occasion I have experienced the rear sliding. Once was on some backroad corner in Johor, and again recently when making a u-turn from stationary in Sg. Both times, the road was wet, but speed was fairly low. Both times had 1 front passenger, both pax total weight no more than 170kg. My wife driving it on her own has also experienced multiple occasions of loss of rear traction, also on wet road on a bend she says. Tyres are not bald, mileage should be <20k. My wife and I had feedback this to my FIL before and supposedly his tyre shop checked and said all ok.

1. Could this be an alignment and/or suspension issue?

2. I know we like to bash cheap tyres here, but could these so easily lose traction (low speed turn in wet)? Fronts are Firenza ST-something and Rears are Rotalla Setula E-Race, all in stock 205/16 size. Which leads to...

3. Could the different brand/model in the front vs rear be the cause? If my FIL is really stubborn about using budget tyres, could just changing 2 tyres to follow the same brand/model be sufficient to stop these instances of low speed rear traction loss?

Thanks in advance!

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Seems that rear tyres have less traction than the front. So are the rear tyres older than the front tyres? You can see the 4-digit month & year of manufacture on the tyre sidewall.

Otherwise swap the rear tyres to the front and vice versa and see if symptom persists.

[Shibadog]

  On 10/23/2022 at 5:14 AM, boonhat_91 said:

Hello MCFers, seeking expert opinions. Sometimes I drive my FIL's car, FD Civic stock. On more than one occasion I have experienced the rear sliding. Once was on some backroad corner in Johor, and again recently when making a u-turn from stationary in Sg. Both times, the road was wet, but speed was fairly low. Both times had 1 front passenger, both pax total weight no more than 170kg. My wife driving it on her own has also experienced multiple occasions of loss of rear traction, also on wet road on a bend she says. Tyres are not bald, mileage should be <20k. My wife and I had feedback this to my FIL before and supposedly his tyre shop checked and said all ok.

1. Could this be an alignment and/or suspension issue?

2. I know we like to bash cheap tyres here, but could these so easily lose traction (low speed turn in wet)? Fronts are Firenza ST-something and Rears are Rotalla Setula E-Race, all in stock 205/16 size. Which leads to...

3. Could the different brand/model in the front vs rear be the cause? If my FIL is really stubborn about using budget tyres, could just changing 2 tyres to follow the same brand/model be sufficient to stop these instances of low speed rear traction loss?

Thanks in advance!

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Noted you and your wife have both experienced it multiple times, but has your FIL experienced it himself? Is the car in Msia? i noticed this Rotalla brand getting popular there. 

suggestions:

1) chk tyre age. Tyre mileage low but could it be old due to low use during covid?

2) chk tyre pressure

3) if tyre age n pressure ok, chk alignment n suspension (inld bushings) for wear. FD is a car which usually has good mechanical grip 

4) change new set of 4 better tyres. Also seriously consider going to a different tyre shop.

[boonhat_91]

  On 10/23/2022 at 5:32 AM, Mkl22 said:

its shit tires and or suspension. Got thread doesn’t mean got grip. 
 

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  On 10/23/2022 at 6:21 AM, Shibadog said:

Noted you and your wife have both experienced it multiple times, but has your FIL experienced it himself? Is the car in Msia? i noticed this Rotalla brand getting popular there. 

suggestions:

1) chk tyre age. Tyre mileage low but could it be old due to low use during covid?

2) chk tyre pressure

3) if tyre age n pressure ok, chk alignment n suspension (inld bushings) for wear. FD is a car which usually has good mechanical grip 

4) change new set of 4 better tyres. Also seriously consider going to a different tyre shop.

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Thanks for the advices! If you don't mind entertaining me further, could you elaborate on how sub-optimal or worn alignment and suspension could lead to rear traction loss?

The car is in Sg but driven frequently in msia as my FIL has a biz there. I don't think he has experienced it himself, neither has my SIL who also drives the car regularly.

Tyre pressure is likely to be underinflated as I'm aware it is not checked regularly. I would think that underinflated tyre actually has more traction, but do correct me if I'm wrong.