Mcf777 Turbocharged November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 hey, Transport Minister, Please erect ERP at TPE and SLE. Always JAM. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplecar 4th Gear November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 hey, Transport Minister, Please erect ERP at TPE and SLE. Always JAM. These vehicles that are shunted off these ERP gantries will have to find alternative routes if they dont want to pay. Else they will still pay if no viable meaningful routes are found. Vechicles shunted off these roads/expressways will cause congestions at the other roads. Impose ERP at those roads would simply move congestion elsewhere. Hence, it makes sense to reduce total vehicle population if we dont want road congestions, and stop having so many properties in one region. Traffic Management is supposed to take these developments into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maseratigood 5th Gear November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 I believe they slowed down because the speed limit there is 70kph and a speed camera is there to ensure this is adhered to. i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade. i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why) but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade. i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why) but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them. That is the "reason" for that ERP gantry right before the bridge! Don't know why people want to buy so powerful car but stinge on stepping more gas when going up slope... Wonder when they realise that it is actually burning more fuel than saving... At first I was wondering if it was due to the speed camera at the other end that causes this chain effect of slowing down all the way to the beginning of the bridge. However, I notice that the traffic is always much smoother after the incline portion... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 That is the "reason" for that ERP gantry right before the bridge! Don't know why people want to buy so powerful car but stinge on stepping more gas when going up slope... Wonder when they realise that it is actually burning more fuel than saving... At first I was wondering if it was due to the speed camera at the other end that causes this chain effect of slowing down all the way to the beginning of the bridge. However, I notice that the traffic is always much smoother after the incline portion... Why would it burn more fuel? Sometimes I go up slope also just maintain the same amount of throttle and the car will slow down alittle. Usually the dashboard will show better FC when I do that. Then when going down the slope I just release the accelerator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplecar 4th Gear November 1, 2013 Share November 1, 2013 i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade. i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why) but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them. That behavior is strange to me. Not sure why people do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 Why would it burn more fuel? Sometimes I go up slope also just maintain the same amount of throttle and the car will slow down alittle. Usually the dashboard will show better FC when I do that. Then when going down the slope I just release the accelerator. It is the same theory as driving an underpowered car. You step more and drag to cruising speed earlier and will notice better FC. That behavior is strange to me. Not sure why people do that. because they can junk you when you tell them not to!! lol! they just never realise that the chain effect of slowing down is an excellent excuse for that ERP gantry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 It is the same theory as driving an underpowered car. You step more and drag to cruising speed earlier and will notice better FC. Tested on my car and doesn't seem to be true. Overall get worse FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 Tested on my car and doesn't seem to be true. Overall get worse FC. i'm not sure what car you're driving or how you really test it. anyway, the whole idea is to allow the traffic to be smooth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 i'm not sure what car you're driving or how you really test it. anyway, the whole idea is to allow the traffic to be smooth. Based on the torque app connected to the OBD2 port. The FC I get when I step harder on the accelerator to maintain speed is alot worse than if I just maintain the same amount of throttle and let the car slow down alittle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 Based on the torque app connected to the OBD2 port. The FC I get when I step harder on the accelerator to maintain speed is alot worse than if I just maintain the same amount of throttle and let the car slow down alittle. Definitely it will be reflecting a higher FC for that period whereby you step harder. It is like driving up Genting 10kph vs 50kph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged November 4, 2013 Share November 4, 2013 Definitely it will be reflecting a higher FC for that period whereby you step harder. It is like driving up Genting 10kph vs 50kph. Its not alittle bit higher. Its alot higher. During my commute if I step on the accelerator to maintain the same speed, the avg FC increases from 14+km/l to 12+km/l by the time I reach the top of the slope. If I just maintain same amount of throttle, by the time I reach the top of the slope, FC drops to 13+km/l. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged November 5, 2013 Share November 5, 2013 Its not alittle bit higher. Its alot higher. During my commute if I step on the accelerator to maintain the same speed, the avg FC increases from 14+km/l to 12+km/l by the time I reach the top of the slope. If I just maintain same amount of throttle, by the time I reach the top of the slope, FC drops to 13+km/l. I don't know how to explain to you but I have already experiment it based on total mileage on a full tank and calculating it. well i can't stop it if you still insist on doing it. but please keep it to lane 2 and 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpmanz 5th Gear November 5, 2013 Share November 5, 2013 any bros here did the trial for the gps based erp pliot systems? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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