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More major roads may be subject to ERP


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hey, Transport Minister,

 

Please erect ERP at TPE and SLE.

Always JAM.

These vehicles that are shunted off these ERP gantries will have to find alternative routes if they dont want to pay. Else they will still pay if no viable meaningful routes are found.

 

Vechicles shunted off these roads/expressways will cause congestions at the other roads. Impose ERP at those roads would simply move congestion elsewhere.

 

Hence, it makes sense to reduce total vehicle population if we dont want road congestions, and stop having so many properties in one region. Traffic Management is supposed to take these developments into account.

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I believe they slowed down because the speed limit there is 70kph and a speed camera is there to ensure this is adhered to.

 

i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade.

 

i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why)

 

but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned

 

worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them.

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i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade.

 

i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why)

 

but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned

 

worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them.

That is the "reason" for that ERP gantry right before the bridge!

 

Don't know why people want to buy so powerful car but stinge on stepping more gas when going up slope...

 

Wonder when they realise that it is actually burning more fuel than saving...

 

At first I was wondering if it was due to the speed camera at the other end that causes this chain effect of slowing down all the way to the beginning of the bridge. However, I notice that the traffic is always much smoother after the incline portion...

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That is the "reason" for that ERP gantry right before the bridge!

 

Don't know why people want to buy so powerful car but stinge on stepping more gas when going up slope...

 

Wonder when they realise that it is actually burning more fuel than saving...

 

At first I was wondering if it was due to the speed camera at the other end that causes this chain effect of slowing down all the way to the beginning of the bridge. However, I notice that the traffic is always much smoother after the incline portion...

 

Why would it burn more fuel? Sometimes I go up slope also just maintain the same amount of throttle and the car will slow down alittle. Usually the dashboard will show better FC when I do that. Then when going down the slope I just release the accelerator.

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i know there's a spdcam after the bridge goes down towards marine parade.

 

i was refering to going up from Keppel direction towards the top of the bridge. the cars on the slope (uphill) can go as slow as 30, 40kmh causing other cars behind to almost stopping (dont know why)

 

but once they pass the peak, they go fast again and then slow down to 70 just before the spdcam you mentioned

 

worst is big trucks are slow going up this climb (naturally), but they occupy lane 3, sometimes even lane 2! where by right as they are so slow they should just stick to lane 4 and free the other lanes for normal cars which move faster than them.

That behavior is strange to me. Not sure why people do that.

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Why would it burn more fuel? Sometimes I go up slope also just maintain the same amount of throttle and the car will slow down alittle. Usually the dashboard will show better FC when I do that. Then when going down the slope I just release the accelerator.

It is the same theory as driving an underpowered car. You step more and drag to cruising speed earlier and will notice better FC.

That behavior is strange to me. Not sure why people do that.

because they can junk you when you tell them not to!! lol!

 

they just never realise that the chain effect of slowing down is an excellent excuse for that ERP gantry.

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It is the same theory as driving an underpowered car. You step more and drag to cruising speed earlier and will notice better FC.

 

Tested on my car and doesn't seem to be true. Overall get worse FC.

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Tested on my car and doesn't seem to be true. Overall get worse FC.

i'm not sure what car you're driving or how you really test it.

 

anyway, the whole idea is to allow the traffic to be smooth.

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i'm not sure what car you're driving or how you really test it.

 

anyway, the whole idea is to allow the traffic to be smooth.

Based on the torque app connected to the OBD2 port. The FC I get when I step harder on the accelerator to maintain speed is alot worse than if I just maintain the same amount of throttle and let the car slow down alittle.

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Based on the torque app connected to the OBD2 port. The FC I get when I step harder on the accelerator to maintain speed is alot worse than if I just maintain the same amount of throttle and let the car slow down alittle.

Definitely it will be reflecting a higher FC for that period whereby you step harder. It is like driving up Genting 10kph vs 50kph.

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Definitely it will be reflecting a higher FC for that period whereby you step harder. It is like driving up Genting 10kph vs 50kph.

Its not alittle bit higher. Its alot higher. During my commute if I step on the accelerator to maintain the same speed, the avg FC increases from 14+km/l to 12+km/l by the time I reach the top of the slope. If I just maintain same amount of throttle, by the time I reach the top of the slope, FC drops to 13+km/l.

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Its not alittle bit higher. Its alot higher. During my commute if I step on the accelerator to maintain the same speed, the avg FC increases from 14+km/l to 12+km/l by the time I reach the top of the slope. If I just maintain same amount of throttle, by the time I reach the top of the slope, FC drops to 13+km/l.

I don't know how to explain to you but I have already experiment it based on total mileage on a full tank and calculating it.

 

well i can't stop it if you still insist on doing it. but please keep it to lane 2 and 3.

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