Icedbs Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 (edited) Posting this at the risk of being junked, but i look at it as just another avenue of releasing stress, just like the restaurant in Spain where patrons throw their plates on the floor in appreciation of the food. I still keep my Uni books too, not so much of the " knowledge " but for rememberance of the efforts. My wife on the other hand, gives hers away not wanting to see them ever again. Different strokes for different folks. Knowledge stays with you and not by the amount of books or test papers you keep after the exam. It is about the learning experience not the housekeeping experience .. You could think of it this way because you are an adult now. I think most of us understands it. However, kids won't think this way if they see parents encouraging them to burn their books. They will perceive it that books are garbage. Edited October 8, 2013 by Icedbs ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4vtec 3rd Gear October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 You could think of this way because you are an adult now. I think most of us understands it. However, kids won't think this way if they see parents encouraging them to burn their books. They will perceive it that books are garbage. There is truth in your statement as well. Again, it is not recommended as a prime form of stress release. i keep all my journals that i print during Uni and after the exam, bring them to office and be shredded, stress release for me.... with the advant of technology nowadays, books might be a thing of the past soon , maybe they will organise a " thrash the E- reader " spiritual release ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 (edited) Book burning goes beyond just the "waste of a good textbook" and "not valuing education" - there is a long and very nasty history of book burnings, the most notorious of which is during Nazi Germany - and the most common reasoning - well, I'll lift something from wiki for that Book burning (also biblioclasm or libricide) is the practice of destroying, often ceremoniously, books or other written material. In modern times, other forms of media, such as phonograph records, video tapes, and CDs have also been ceremoniously burned or shredded. Book burning is usually carried out in public, and is generally motivated by moral, religious, or political objections to the material. While I understand and appreciate the wish to celebrate the end of PSLE, the stress it caused and also the wish to mark the end of one chapter of your life - given the historical implications and the undertone there is to book burning I don't think the decision was particularly wise. Edited October 8, 2013 by Darryn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 want to keep the books for others also hard. syllabus keep changing every few years... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 (edited) book gives knowledge and you dun discredit them by burning (porn like playboy not counted ).... if the book that is the root cause of the stress they been through and burning mark the end of it, then whatever stress in future can be ended with burning, i think bosses will be the first in line or maybe the road hogger's car Edited October 8, 2013 by Jman888 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 Book burning goes beyond just the "waste of a good textbook" and "not valuing education" - there is a long and very nasty history of book burnings, the most notorious of which is during Nazi Germany - and the most common reasoning - well, I'll lift something from wiki for that While I understand and appreciate the wish to celebrate the end of PSLE, the stress it caused and also the wish to mark the end of one chapter of your life - given the historical implications and the undertone there is to book burning I don't think the decision was particularly wise. Ahemmm.....PLSE - Nazi germany appearing within 1 post? Tink you're reading wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too deep into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhyy701 Clutched October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 Please, not every families can afford education for their children. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 Ahemmm.....PLSE - Nazi germany appearing within 1 post? Tink you're reading wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too deep into this. Agree on that front, PSLE is nothing to do with Nazi Germany - Just trying to say, that sometimes you need to think about the symbolism of an act. Even as I accept this book burning as an innocent and well meaning way to relieve stress and symbolise the end of exams, at the same time - in other situations, book burning had some very nasty associations (and it wasn't just Nazi Germany - think also the destruction of the Library at Alexandria for example) For something like this, I'd think of it as "a bit clueless" rather than anything else - that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss the historical significance though right? One criticism that is often levelled at Singapore kids is that they don't have a very good understanding of history, or world events and our place in the world (actually - that accusation is thrown at a lot of kids) - having a bit of a debate about why ceremonial book burnings are not a good idea might be good for some people. Also, it does depend a bit on culture - when I first came to Singapore I blardy nearly fell over when I heard of a school called Red Swastica. It wasn't until I researched and learned more that I realised and appreciated what was being communicated. My daughter's school has a swastica on the front gate. For Singapore, totally appropriate - if that were to happen in New Zealand, people would be up in arms - and it would take a LOT of education, debate, explanation if it were ever to be accepted. Why? Simply because - what we learned at school - Swastica = Nazi Germany (we did learn that the Nazi party "stole" it from Buddhism) - you don't tend to appreciate other meanings and interpretations until you live them. The upshot of a very long post? Burning the books is ok. Having a discussion about the burning of books and the historical significance and the implications - also valuable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 book gives knowledge and you dun discredit them by burning (porn like playboy not counted ).... if the book that is the root cause of the stress they been through and burning mark the end of it, then whatever stress in future can be ended with burning, i think bosses will be the first in line or maybe the road hogger's car the books are not the cause of their stress, it is just the semblance of their stress. their stress actually comes from themselves, the parents and the education system. because they can't destruct these 3, the books become the hapless victim of the students' liberation. also, sad to see student more focused about the end (examinations) than the means (books) of education. they are read but not educated. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 (edited) the books are not the cause of their stress, it is just the semblance of their stress. their stress actually comes from themselves, the parents and the education system. because they can't destruct these 3, the books become the hapless victim of the students' liberation. also, sad to see student more focused about the end (examinations) than the means (books) of education. they are read but not educated. When I was very young, I was told to respect books for they are a source of great knowledge. I was also told that Abraham Lincoln walk 10 miles everyday to get books to read cause his family is too poor to buy him books. Not sure how true is that though, but it did sink into me that books are precious. I am not sure how kids are taught these days Maybe, they are taught to respect ipads and not books. Edited October 8, 2013 by Icedbs 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joseph22 Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 Book burning goes beyond just the "waste of a good textbook" and "not valuing education" - there is a long and very nasty history of book burnings, the most notorious of which is during Nazi Germany - and the most common reasoning - well, I'll lift something from wiki for that While I understand and appreciate the wish to celebrate the end of PSLE, the stress it caused and also the wish to mark the end of one chapter of your life - given the historical implications and the undertone there is to book burning I don't think the decision was particularly wise. The western started really late for book burning. China already did that in the BC era Liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 The western started really late for book burning. China already did that in the BC era Liao. heh - Well, you could argue the point that the bible started it long before anything else with the destruction of the tower of babel and the creation of confusion by casting people out from one language to many (not exactly book burning, but the destruction of knowledge by destroying the ability of people to talk to one another comes close enough in my mind) Strangely enough - there are a LOT of parallels to the legend of the Tower of Babel mentioned in many different historical texts and religions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 When I was very young, I was told to respect books for they are a source of great knowledge. I was also told that Abraham Lincoln walk 10 miles everyday to get books to read cause his family is too poor to buy him books. Not sure how true is that though, but it did sink into me that books are precious. I am not sure how kids are taught these days Maybe, they are taught to respect ipads and not books. yep, I actually kept my textbooks for the longest of time because I value the knowledge it gives me and think I can occasionally go back to the books to refresh my knowledge. perhaps that explains why I am not exam-smart but tends to understand and retain well the things I have studied or learnt. The western started really late for book burning. China already did that in the BC era Liao. china did that because the emperor wanted to stop certain part of history and knowledge from being circulated amongst the commoners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 heh - Well, you could argue the point that the bible started it long before anything else with the destruction of the tower of babel and the creation of confusion by casting people out from one language to many (not exactly book burning, but the destruction of knowledge by destroying the ability of people to talk to one another comes close enough in my mind) Strangely enough - there are a LOT of parallels to the legend of the Tower of Babel mentioned in many different historical texts and religions No I am literately saying books burning with historical record. Don't push this to talk about religious record knowing I am Christian, its a low down move to try to gain a upper hand.. btw, bible doesn't come from the east or west. Its position is just nice in the middle. So don't claim credit as if its come from the west. China book burning is a recorded event don't by emperor of Qing. yep, I actually kept my textbooks for the longest of time because I value the knowledge it gives me and think I can occasionally go back to the books to refresh my knowledge. perhaps that explains why I am not exam-smart but tends to understand and retain well the things I have studied or learnt. china did that because the emperor wanted to stop certain part of history and knowledge from being circulated amongst the commoners? Yeah bro, think Qing emperor think knowledge will cause danger to his reign. I pointed that out just wanting Daryn to know it goes a way further back. If I am not wrong it's also recorded That time they even control knife that they have a centralize chopping knife guarded by soldiers for 10 household. Imagine having to que up to chop vege for meals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 No I am literately saying books burning with historical record. Don't push this to talk about religious record knowing I am Christian, I didn't know you were Christian..... But yeah - I do know that "destruction of knowledge" goes back to way way long ago - hence the mention of the library at Alexandria The library is famous for having been burned, resulting in the loss of many scrolls and books, and has become a symbol of the destruction of cultural knowledge. Ancient sources differ widely on who is responsible for the destruction and when it occurred. Although there is a mythology of the burning of the Library at Alexandria, the library may have suffered several fires or acts of destruction over many years. Actually, somedays I really wish I had studied ancient history - I find it really interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 This is manifestation of the deep seated hatred & resentment of the pressure cooker style education system here. Both the child & parent are cooked by it. Its not a protest against knowledge per se, but against the excessive pressure of the system. It takes the fun out of learning & kills the enjoyment of learning. That being said, I enjoyed the experience I had while pursuing my night class course. I enjoyed my lessons, the class interaction & knowledge. Stressful at times but I enjoyed it and felt a sense of fulfilment when I achieved the grade. But again its a private organization outside the regime like education system. I chose the course by my choice/interest. I am glad they did it. (both parent & child) Not because of anti knowledge sentiments but out of frustration of the system. So what's next? Ban textbook burning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged October 8, 2013 Share October 8, 2013 Book burning goes beyond just the "waste of a good textbook" and "not valuing education" - there is a long and very nasty history of book burnings, the most notorious of which is during Nazi Germany - and the most common reasoning - well, I'll lift something from wiki for that While I understand and appreciate the wish to celebrate the end of PSLE, the stress it caused and also the wish to mark the end of one chapter of your life - given the historical implications and the undertone there is to book burning I don't think the decision was particularly wise. Darryn... amazing! You've just proven Godwin's Law!! That is: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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