Penalised due to maths learning disorder

[Ender]

I didn't know poor in math also can be a medical condition?? Only knew about dyslexia.

 

I can't draw ... Got medical term for that?

 

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DR NOEL Chia Kok Hwee's letter ("'Normal' tuition harmful for kids with learning disabilities"; last Saturday) struck a chord with me.

 

My daughter, who will be 19 this year, has been failing mathematics since Primary 2.

 

She has had many tutors, including those from well-known tuition centres, but has never passed the subject. Her maths scores have affected her overall results and her self-esteem.

 

When my daughter was in Primary 5, we sent her to a child guidance clinic, where she was assessed to be just weak in maths. She continued to struggle with the subject in secondary school. Six years later, we sent her to an educational psychologist, who assessed her to have dyscalculia, or difficulty in learning things related to numbers.

 

My daughter is a voracious reader who speaks and writes well. Although she topped her cohort in English, literature and combined humanities in her N levels, she was denied promotion to Secondary 5 to do her O levels just because she had failed maths. She felt disappointed as most of her classmates with less-than-stellar results went on to the next level.

 

She took her O levels last year as a private candidate and attained three As and a B. She wants to pursue tertiary education but our education system does not cater to students like her.

 

We approached various polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education, but were told that she was required to either have a pass in maths or to have sat the paper.

 

The opportunity to pursue higher education is limited for students like my daughter. Are children with dyscalculia being penalised and denied opportunities for tertiary education?

 

There should be more awareness of this condition so that children with this problem can be diagnosed early and special intervention provided, just like for dyslexia.

 

Yap Cheng Siew (Madam)

[The_Bear]

I didn't know poor in math also can be a medical condition?? Only knew about dyslexia.

 

I can't draw ... Got medical term for that?

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-...sorder-20130924

 

DR NOEL Chia Kok Hwee's letter ("'Normal' tuition harmful for kids with learning disabilities"; last Saturday) struck a chord with me.

 

My daughter, who will be 19 this year, has been failing mathematics since Primary 2.

 

She has had many tutors, including those from well-known tuition centres, but has never passed the subject. Her maths scores have affected her overall results and her self-esteem.

 

When my daughter was in Primary 5, we sent her to a child guidance clinic, where she was assessed to be just weak in maths. She continued to struggle with the subject in secondary school. Six years later, we sent her to an educational psychologist, who assessed her to have dyscalculia, or difficulty in learning things related to numbers.

 

My daughter is a voracious reader who speaks and writes well. Although she topped her cohort in English, literature and combined humanities in her N levels, she was denied promotion to Secondary 5 to do her O levels just because she had failed maths. She felt disappointed as most of her classmates with less-than-stellar results went on to the next level.

 

She took her O levels last year as a private candidate and attained three As and a B. She wants to pursue tertiary education but our education system does not cater to students like her.

 

We approached various polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education, but were told that she was required to either have a pass in maths or to have sat the paper.

 

The opportunity to pursue higher education is limited for students like my daughter. Are children with dyscalculia being penalised and denied opportunities for tertiary education?

 

There should be more awareness of this condition so that children with this problem can be diagnosed early and special intervention provided, just like for dyslexia.

 

Yap Cheng Siew (Madam)

 

Well, math is very important. We don't need more people who can talk talk talk but can't figure out that you can't fit 8 million people onto one small island.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Bavarian

[Rainman]

I didn't know poor in math also can be a medical condition?? Only knew about dyslexia.

 

I can't draw ... Got medical term for that?

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-...sorder-20130924

 

DR NOEL Chia Kok Hwee's letter ("'Normal' tuition harmful for kids with learning disabilities"; last Saturday) struck a chord with me.

 

My daughter, who will be 19 this year, has been failing mathematics since Primary 2.

 

She has had many tutors, including those from well-known tuition centres, but has never passed the subject. Her maths scores have affected her overall results and her self-esteem.

 

When my daughter was in Primary 5, we sent her to a child guidance clinic, where she was assessed to be just weak in maths. She continued to struggle with the subject in secondary school. Six years later, we sent her to an educational psychologist, who assessed her to have dyscalculia, or difficulty in learning things related to numbers.

 

My daughter is a voracious reader who speaks and writes well. Although she topped her cohort in English, literature and combined humanities in her N levels, she was denied promotion to Secondary 5 to do her O levels just because she had failed maths. She felt disappointed as most of her classmates with less-than-stellar results went on to the next level.

 

She took her O levels last year as a private candidate and attained three As and a B. She wants to pursue tertiary education but our education system does not cater to students like her.

 

We approached various polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education, but were told that she was required to either have a pass in maths or to have sat the paper.

 

The opportunity to pursue higher education is limited for students like my daughter. Are children with dyscalculia being penalised and denied opportunities for tertiary education?

 

There should be more awareness of this condition so that children with this problem can be diagnosed early and special intervention provided, just like for dyslexia.

 

Yap Cheng Siew (Madam)

 

 

I think most of us has some sort of medical conditions, most guys have the same as what Tiger Woods has...

[Kusje]

This is rubbish. Her daughter sucks in math so must have special privilege for admission to university?

 

Then what about people who suck in language, science, maths and humanities? They also deserve the same special privilege?

[Felipe]

This is rubbish. Her daughter sucks in math so must have special privilege for admission to university?

 

Then what about people who suck in language, science, maths and humanities? They also deserve the same special privilege?

no. thats y go overseas. our local system is just rigid.

[Ender]

This is rubbish. Her daughter sucks in math so must have special privilege for admission to university?

 

Then what about people who suck in language, science, maths and humanities? They also deserve the same special privilege?

Some charity should organise a fund raising art gallery to display drawings by people with can't draw syndrome. . Also to raise awareness of such condition.

[Sp4wn]

its not about privilege la brother but by going to a tertiary education, she can still be a useful member of society ma. maybe can do theatre, writing books etc. yes maths is important, but it might not pertain to a field she can excel in .. obviously she cant be rocket scientist, but that doesn't mean we cant try to accommodate. our society is just too rigid and result oriented.

[Alheych]

i don't want to be skeptical about the condition. but from an administrative perspective, everyone agrees that rules are important but everyone wants to be the exception.

 

"dyscalculia" is probably rare, so let's talk about a more common one, dyslexia.

 

i've heard of an actual case who is dyslexic just enough to be exempted from chinese. you think genuine or not?

 

our education system would have failed if we don't have enough slots to cater to students with special niches. but it would also not work if people who are not suitable for the mainstream demand to float along the mainstream.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Alheych

[Relagsingh]

When come to collecting money their maths very power.

[Kiadaw]

3 As and a B are already better than my 'O' level result. Yet I made it to Uni & have a relative good profession situation now.

 

If she sucks at other subjects as well, then I will brush it off, but its seems not the case.

 

Not every job required to be good at math. If she can progress higher, she can have a chance of a good career in many possible fields as well.

 

If her parent can show she have been doing well in other subjects since young, & medical proof of her condition, I do not see why we cannot have exceptions. Of course every exception must be justify, but I personally believe she has a strong case.

 

In my opinion, her best chance, if budget allow is to study overseas, on some courses that do not required good maths. Of course, chances are these courses also have few career opportunities in Singapore. so she may end up not returning. It may actually be good for her, but we may lose a talent to another foreigner due to our rigid educational system.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Kiadaw

[Jman888]

i was told Maths is THE most important subject to enter Uni, you can skip Bio to enter into Medical school but you can't do without Maths !

 

anyway she can still go poly without passing Maths according to what he said.

 

 

I didn't know poor in math also can be a medical condition?? Only knew about dyslexia.

 

I can't draw ... Got medical term for that?

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-...sorder-20130924

 

DR NOEL Chia Kok Hwee's letter ("'Normal' tuition harmful for kids with learning disabilities"; last Saturday) struck a chord with me.

 

My daughter, who will be 19 this year, has been failing mathematics since Primary 2.

 

She has had many tutors, including those from well-known tuition centres, but has never passed the subject. Her maths scores have affected her overall results and her self-esteem.

 

When my daughter was in Primary 5, we sent her to a child guidance clinic, where she was assessed to be just weak in maths. She continued to struggle with the subject in secondary school. Six years later, we sent her to an educational psychologist, who assessed her to have dyscalculia, or difficulty in learning things related to numbers.

 

My daughter is a voracious reader who speaks and writes well. Although she topped her cohort in English, literature and combined humanities in her N levels, she was denied promotion to Secondary 5 to do her O levels just because she had failed maths. She felt disappointed as most of her classmates with less-than-stellar results went on to the next level.

 

She took her O levels last year as a private candidate and attained three As and a B. She wants to pursue tertiary education but our education system does not cater to students like her.

 

We approached various polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education, but were told that she was required to either have a pass in maths or to have sat the paper.

 

The opportunity to pursue higher education is limited for students like my daughter. Are children with dyscalculia being penalised and denied opportunities for tertiary education?

 

There should be more awareness of this condition so that children with this problem can be diagnosed early and special intervention provided, just like for dyslexia.

 

Yap Cheng Siew (Madam)

 

[Sosaria]

Psychologists can come up with all kinds of reasons to explain away all kinds of human weaknesses...

 

What next after dys-calculia?

 

I know many kids also fail chinese language regularly in school - will they be excused as having dys-CL-philia?? Then excused from taking the language in school?

 

We'll probably also have dys-physics-philia (some kids really bad at this and seem to have no sense of the logic of physical laws), dis-history-philia (can't seem to remember all those boring dates and events), etc. etc.

 

Quit the excuses. The girl just needs to find a good math tutor, giving one-to-one tutoring, to overcome the weakness in math.

[Adrianli]

I sucked in maths from Pri 1 till Pri 6 mid-term. Always see red on report card. No matter how much one to one tution by my aunties n uncles who were teachers also not helped. Then during mid-term, my Pri 6 form teacher who was also my maths teacher, gave me one to one coaching during the june holidays.

 

Somehow during that intense tution, my brian connected and I understood how maths worked. From then on, maths was my strongest subject. And maths is the only subject u can score 100/100.

 

Even in poly, I never took A maths before and always took E maths till O level. My score in Engineering maths was top of my class. Even I myself was surprised. Every other subjects related to math calculation, its either Dist or A.

 

 

I guess the child in the report is like me. U need something to trigger that part of ur brian. I dont know what that is but it is really a eureka moment.

 

[Mustank]

When come to collecting money their maths very power.

 

all the maths king come out liao

[Mustank]

Psychologists can come up with all kinds of reasons to explain away all kinds of human weaknesses...

 

What next after dys-calculia?

 

I know many kids also fail chinese language regularly in school - will they be excused as having dys-CL-philia?? Then excused from taking the language in school?

 

We'll probably also have dys-physics-philia (some kids really bad at this and seem to have no sense of the logic of physical laws), dis-history-philia (can't seem to remember all those boring dates and events), etc. etc.

 

Quit the excuses. The girl just needs to find a good math tutor, giving one-to-one tutoring, to overcome the weakness in math.

 

i also i also

i is dys-NS-philia

[Nzy]

I think the Poly will still accept if she attempted the math paper. I have friends in Poly who got F9 for E math.

[Vid]

When come to collecting money their maths very power.

 

I have the same medical condition as our ministers. When collect money, my brain works well. But when it comes to paying money, for some unknown reason, my brain suddenly go into seizure. I wonder what this medical condition is called...

[Maxus-MIFA9]

i also i also

i is dys-NS-philia

 

so lucky you.....

 

not dys-sex-philia ....