Will u buy Diesel or Petrol Cars in SG

[Ct3833]

One who spends $200k on a car should not be worrying about fuel consumption.

[Ceecookie]

2 hours ago, Shoebox said:

Earlier this year, I seriously considered and almost bought a german diesel car.

But in the end i did not, because of these three words: diesel particulate filter.

Actually the DPF can be removed at a workshop (similar to decat) which will remove the hassle of blocked filter. This will fail inspection though so need to reinstall for inspection periods. 

Edited August 1, 2020 by Ceecookie

[Dannnn]

1 hour ago, t0y0ta said:

12k annual mileage you wanna try diesel?

Diesel has a lot more loose ends than petrol and you won't save much $$ on fuel

Short moment of bliss, then a lot more pain waiting

Similar to marrying wrong gal

It's not about the mileage, its about the trip. if travel only 8km per day city, then of cos diesel is a headache. but if one way of 18k km mostly highway, it shld clear the DPF.

weekend can always take out for a drive from east to west to makan etc. 

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Wait till you drive twin turbo diesel with 500nm torque.

You might not want to drive petrol on NSHW.

Nowadays, turbo petrol has similar torque feel in the city.

12k km might not enough to breakeven the additional road tax 

Seriously, to me is not about breakeven of the $ (fuel vs roadtax)

its the driving feel that gave you. Of cos have tried both petrol vs diesel of the same vehicle, before deciding.

Twin turbo diesel maybe is higher tier car, not within budget. 

just likeTS asking E200 vs E220D , we stick to this comparison . test both and most likely will get the E220D.

and not comparing E300 vs E220D etc. or Even 535i/540i vs E220D.

[joshnicc]

I personally prefer petrol

[Solar]

On 8/1/2020 at 8:45 PM, Shoebox said:

Earlier this year, I seriously considered and almost bought a german diesel car.

But in the end i did not, because of these three words: diesel particulate filter.

Don't think that's is a major issue. During the months of Covit lockdown, my mileage was limited to only home and market.

No issue with dpf getting clogged. 

If one is really concerned, what's the problem of driving round the island once in a month or two to clear it? Diesel is still much cheaper in comparison.

[Solar]

On 8/1/2020 at 11:53 PM, Dannnn said:

It's not about the mileage, its about the trip. if travel only 8km per day city, then of cos diesel is a headache. but if one way of 18k km mostly highway, it shld clear the DPF.

weekend can always take out for a drive from east to west to makan etc. 

Seriously, to me is not about breakeven of the $ (fuel vs roadtax)

its the driving feel that gave you. Of cos have tried both petrol vs diesel of the same vehicle, before deciding.

Twin turbo diesel maybe is higher tier car, not within budget. 

just likeTS asking E200 vs E220D , we stick to this comparison . test both and most likely will get the E220D.

and not comparing E300 vs E220D etc. or Even 535i/540i vs E220D.

One issue is the limited rev band. Going downhill on Cameron highland or Genting using engine brake will be hitting redline very often.

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, Solar said:

One issue is the limited rev band. Going downhill on Cameron highland or Genting using engine brake will be hitting redline very often.

Unless your car has very tok kong suspension, unlikely hit redline.

[Solar]

On 8/1/2020 at 9:54 PM, inlinesix said:

Wait till you drive twin turbo diesel with 500nm torque.

You might not want to drive petrol on NSHW.

Nowadays, turbo petrol has similar torque feel in the city.

12k km might not enough to breakeven the additional road tax 

Mine isn't twin, but is having 430nm with a single turbo.

The torque is indeed shiok 😍

[Solar]

3 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Unless your car has very tok kong suspension, unlikely hit redline.

Not sure about that.. but I do find my car's suspension a little hard.. I did hit the redline and had to step on the brake to complement the engine brake as I went downhill.

I didn't have to do as much when I was driving the Legacy GT.

[inlinesix]

Edited September 25, 2020 by inlinesix

[Volvobrick]

Last time the company I worked at also had our own diesel tank and pumped for own fleet. Pumped for our contractor's fleet too!  So much cheaper and I don't remember got maintenance issues for the fleet.  Diesel is diesel, unless those white pumps add water for even more profits.

 

[Hamburger]

Question is, euro 5 boh? Certified?

No point saving a few dollars and paying thousands for repair later.

Edited September 25, 2020 by Hamburger

[Tohto]

13 hours ago, Hamburger said:

Question is, euro 5 boh? Certified?

No point saving a few dollars and paying thousands for repair later.

My guess  this will be industry diesel.

 

[Beregond]

I see the engine oil for diesel car i sian 1/2 already. 

Its forever black oil.  Even when u just change u start  engine. U check dip strick the oil is black.

Not to mention the issue with dpf  Injector .fuel pump bababa

Just ask why eu is pharsing out diesel  car.

Why no super car use diesel. 

[Tohto]

40 minutes ago, Beregond said:

I see the engine oil for diesel car i sian 1/2 already. 

Its forever black oil.  Even when u just change u start  engine. U check dip strick the oil is black.

Not to mention the issue with dpf  Injector .fuel pump bababa

Just ask why eu is pharsing out diesel  car.

Why no super car use diesel. 

OK. This is not supercar.

"BMW X5 M50d review: do you need 395bhp in a diesel SUV? | Top Gear" https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/xdrive-m50d-5dr-auto/first-drive?amp

[Beregond]

2 minutes ago, Tohto said:

OK. This is not supercar.

"BMW X5 M50d review: do you need 395bhp in a diesel SUV? | Top Gear" https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/xdrive-m50d-5dr-auto/first-drive?amp

Diesel  engine can have very powerful model  also.

Look at all the trucks.  

But does the horses and bulls and their  equal have model that use diesel  engine?

If not why? 

Maintenance?  Smoke? Comfort? 

[Volvobrick]

14 minutes ago, Beregond said:

Diesel  engine can have very powerful model  also.

Look at all the trucks.  

But does the horses and bulls and their  equal have model that use diesel  engine?

If not why? 

Maintenance?  Smoke? Comfort? 

Refinement not there I think. Even if a diesel supercar passes by from behind, you would think it's a truck/taxi! Tek Tek Tek...... 

Must go try out the diesel Alpinas to confirm!

 

Edited September 26, 2020 by Volvobrick

[Tohto]

24 minutes ago, Beregond said:

Diesel  engine can have very powerful model  also.

Look at all the trucks.  

But does the horses and bulls and their  equal have model that use diesel  engine?

If not why? 

Maintenance?  Smoke? Comfort? 

Don't think maintenance is not issue. Just that too new locally and this region of the world. If look at Europe, many still prefer diesel.

Power range is low compare to petrol. After 4k from max power already peak out already.

Personally I prefer a diesel engines but need to be 2L above. Those tiny 1.5L engine will be less smooth.

My last drive diesel is a rental X3 2.0D in Germany 2 yrs ago. Does not feel any less refinement. 

My boss is a supporter for diesel. Previously driving the BMW 216GT, this year change to 520d. Again the car does not feel any less refinement.