Roundabout rules: was NTUC right?

[OTOT]

There were no lane markings then, and this isn't a typical roundabout which is why I blamed everything on LTA. Maybe both cars should get NTUC to claim from them instead.

 

Unless there are directional arrows on the ground, on a roundabout, the person on the inner (2 lane) or middle (3 lane) roundabout has the right to exit from there. The person on the outermost lane MUST give way if they want to go straight. Go see the image I posted from the highway code in post #135.

Well if there were no lanes then, it would still make common sense to stick to the left to exit rather than moving parallel to the right of another vehicle? the onus would still be on the red driver to ensure the left of the vehicle was clear and safe before turning left.

[Pandapura]

Well if there were no lanes then, it would still make common sense to stick to the left to exit rather than moving parallel to the right of another vehicle? the onus would still be on the red driver to ensure the left of the vehicle was clear and safe before turning left.

 

Agreed. Maybe this was why NTUC found TS's wife to be 100% liable for the accident?

[Unltd]

Well if there were no lanes then, it would still make common sense to stick to the left to exit rather than moving parallel to the right of another vehicle? the onus would still be on the red driver to ensure the left of the vehicle was clear and safe before turning left.

 

Unfortunately, common sense is not so common.... Especially when it's a certain type of drivers....

[Prince_of_Darkness]

i drive there almost daily.... and can say always exit from the inner lane, as there 2 lanes for cars to exit. senseless for 2 lanes if it is only for the outer lane.

End of the day, Eyes open big big, anticipate, slow down, signal or speed up if necessary.......

[OTOT]

Agreed. Maybe this was why NTUC found TS's wife to be 100% liable for the accident?

TS' wife was lucky as it was a blue sedan. Things could have been a lot worse if it was a truck...

[Elfenstar]

Well if there were no lanes then, it would still make common sense to stick to the left to exit rather than moving parallel to the right of another vehicle? the onus would still be on the red driver to ensure the left of the vehicle was clear and safe before turning left.

 

No lanes? Did you mean no directional arrows? Doesn't common sense dictate that every driver should know the highway code since we all had to study it? Any it clearly states that the onus is on the driver in the outer most lane if he/she is going straight.

[Elfenstar]

Agreed. Maybe this was why NTUC found TS's wife to be 100% liable for the accident?

 

They found the driver to be liable because of BOLA Guidelines, which strangely don't use the rules as a basis. According to GIA's website, these guidelines are just that, and if you disagree with the assessment, you can pursue it further yourself. Did I mention that the organization that handles the disputes is part of GIA and is supposed to follow their guidelines rather than the rules?

[Elfenstar]

TS' wife was lucky as it was a blue sedan. Things could have been a lot worse if it was a truck...

 

Actually it's a beige/gold vios

[Elfenstar]

Unfortunately, common sense is not so common.... Especially when it's a certain type of drivers....

 

Technically, common sense would be to follow the rules, esp since it's more or less the same for roundabouts everywhere in the world. The only difference is the rule of right for right hand drive, rule of left for left hand drive.

[Acemundo]

More likely LTA should take at least 50% liability

 

haha I agree but who dares to claim against them haha

 

[Yhn]

Then legally, wouldn't the onus would be on the person who does not have right of way to ensure that he/she can see right?

 

And the issue is that both think they have the right of way : viz Rule of the Road and GIA guidelines.

 

Think LTA should , for the avoidance of doubt, streamline this roundabout issue.

[Viceroymenthol]

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That looks finger lickin' good.

[SGCMDamian]

When I first got my license and still not familiar with the roads, I made 2 and a half rounds at suntec fountain because my old garmin GPS lost signal and I not sure which exit to go to. [laugh]

 

You should go round 8 times! then buy 4D on your car number plate! most likely to strike!

[Nicholas]

You should go round 8 times! then buy 4D on your car number plate! most likely to strike!

 

Lol, ya hor should have done that! [laugh]

[Galantspeedz]

No lanes? Did you mean no directional arrows? Doesn't common sense dictate that every driver should know the highway code since we all had to study it? Any it clearly states that the onus is on the driver in the outer most lane if he/she is going straight.

 

Erm.. law dictates one should know highway code, common sense dictates one should avoid accident as and when possible regardless of highway code...

 

 

[Unltd]

An Obituary printed in the London Times....

 

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who

has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was,

since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.

He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;

- Why the early bird gets the worm;

- Life isn't always fair;

- and maybe it was my fault.

 

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend

more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children,

are in charge).

 

His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but

overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy

charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens

suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher

fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

 

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the

job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly

children.

 

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental

consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could

not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have

an abortion.

 

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses;

and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

 

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a

burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

 

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed

to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little

in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

 

Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust,

by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his

son, Reason.

 

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers;

I Know My Rights

I Want It Now

Someone Else Is To Blame

I'm A Victim

 

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

[Pandapura]

Erm.. law dictates one should know highway code, common sense dictates one should avoid accident as and when possible regardless of highway code...

 

Common sense when driving = exercising a little common sense, defensive driving and planning ahead of your route so as to ensure a safe and accident-free journey not just for yourself, but other drivers around you.