KIA K3 perform poorly on head on crash

[Watwheels]

When it comes to cars, safety comes at a premium. Thing is most small cars sold worldwide comes with an affordable price tag(except for sgp). When it comes to innovation and safety...they come at higher costs.

 

So it's not surprising most small cars fail such tests.

 

Anyway the video link seems to have moved. But I found it in Youtube...

 

Enjoy.

 

 

 

I think the passenger safety cell is more important dan the number of airbags car makers put in a car on this particular test. Like mentioned it's not a full frontal impact.

Edited August 11, 2013 by Watwheels

[Caravan]

This is call moving the goal posts. If they want car makers to do well in a particular tests, they should let them know in advance.

I can take a 90's car and put them through any of today's crash tests and they will fail miserably.

[Vitaminc1231]

This is call moving the goal posts. If they want car makers to do well in a particular tests, they should let them know in advance.

I can take a 90's car and put them through any of today's crash tests and they will fail miserably.

 

Finally someone is making sense.

[Yhn]

Newbie post.

Take it with a pinch of salt

 

Came across a 60 year old man as newbie ?

 

[Yhn]

This is call moving the goal posts. If they want car makers to do well in a particular tests, they should let them know in advance.

I can take a 90's car and put them through any of today's crash tests and they will fail miserably.

 

This IIHS is in US right? May be they informed Subaru of this test ahead.

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showto...673145&hl=*

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Again this year every major automaker has at least one winner. Subaru remains the only manufacturer with the distinction of earning awards for every model it builds. Subaru picks up 5 awards, including one for the redesigned Impreza, a small car.

 

[Wishxsr]

Wow.. K3 crash test so bad? dangerous leh.

[Eugn86]

What this small overlap frontal test is all about:

 

"To help drive further improvements in frontal crash protection, the Institute in 2012 introduced a small overlap frontal crash test. The test is designed to replicate what happens when the front corner of a vehicle collides with another vehicle or an object like a tree or utility pole. This crash test is a challenge for some safety belt and airbag designs because occupants move both forward and toward the side of the vehicle...

Small overlap frontal crashes primarily affect a vehicle's outer edges, which aren't well protected by the crush-zone structures. Crash forces go directly into the front wheel, suspension system and firewall. It is not uncommon for the wheel to be forced rearward into the footwell, contributing to even more intrusion in the occupant compartment and resulting in serious leg and foot injuries. To provide effective protection in small overlap crashes, the safety cage needs to resist crash forces that aren't tempered by crush-zone structures. Widening these front-end structures also would help."

 

Kia Forte did indeed perform poorly in this test. Looking at the video, the amount of intrusion of the dashboard into the cabin and the collapsed A pillars look uncomfortable. The Civic on the other hand had much lesser intrusion and the driver's head landed at the airbag.

 

I disagree about letting car manufacturers know in advance about a particular test. Will accidents let you know what it will be before it happens to you? No! That's why they are called accidents. It is the responsibility of car manufacturers to build safer cars for the masses... and crash tests and their results drive this momentum. Will it change the way people buy their cars? To those financially healthy to have a fine selection of models to choose from, maybe. To those who have only enough for the most basic transportation, no.

[Zogel]

The AD already removed some of the safety features available overseas like the extra airbags so that the OMV will be lower. So the results will be different if they use the models that the ADs bring in.

 

Airbags are mostly useless if u have a inferior structure.

[Sugar]

This is call moving the goal posts. If they want car makers to do well in a particular tests, they should let them know in advance.

I can take a 90's car and put them through any of today's crash tests and they will fail miserably.

 

 

This is nonsense.

 

Lets say all milk powder are now being tested for a chemical compound called XX.

XX has been used in making several brands of milk powder since day 1 but there has never been concerns about it until now.

 

And now XX is proven to be dangerous for babies. Is this called moving the goal post?

 

If I am a parent and some brands fail the XX test (contains traces of XX), I wont take it with a pinch of salt but avoid that brand of milk powder completely.

[Zogel]

But this is more important right? Since most accidents are actually not head on crash. Most accidents only hit a small portion of the front part only ma.

 

To mitigate this..

Some of the owners who owns those cars that fared badly may attempt to crash head on instead.

[Blackyv]

Moral of story?... If wanna hit, don't swing the steering wheel, hit it head on...

[Yhn]

What this small overlap frontal test is all about:

 

"To help drive further improvements in frontal crash protection, the Institute in 2012 introduced a small overlap frontal crash test. The test is designed to replicate what happens when the front corner of a vehicle collides with another vehicle or an object like a tree or utility pole. This crash test is a challenge for some safety belt and airbag designs because occupants move both forward and toward the side of the vehicle...

Small overlap frontal crashes primarily affect a vehicle's outer edges, which aren't well protected by the crush-zone structures. Crash forces go directly into the front wheel, suspension system and firewall. It is not uncommon for the wheel to be forced rearward into the footwell, contributing to even more intrusion in the occupant compartment and resulting in serious leg and foot injuries. To provide effective protection in small overlap crashes, the safety cage needs to resist crash forces that aren't tempered by crush-zone structures. Widening these front-end structures also would help."

 

Kia Forte did indeed perform poorly in this test. Looking at the video, the amount of intrusion of the dashboard into the cabin and the collapsed A pillars look uncomfortable. The Civic on the other hand had much lesser intrusion and the driver's head landed at the airbag.

 

I disagree about letting car manufacturers know in advance about a particular test. Will accidents let you know what it will be before it happens to you? No! That's why they are called accidents. It is the responsibility of car manufacturers to build safer cars for the masses... and crash tests and their results drive this momentum. Will it change the way people buy their cars? To those financially healthy to have a fine selection of models to choose from, maybe. To those who have only enough for the most basic transportation, no.

 

 

Well said

[Cat]

Yes, this link report the more correct one, head on, side, and rollover test result, offset test is b-------t! http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5...?vehicleId=8658

[Yhn]

To mitigate this..

Some of the owners who owns those cars that fared badly may attempt to crash head on instead.

 

hahaha , you joke

[Vitaminc1231]

Moral of story?... If wanna hit, don't swing the steering wheel, hit it head on...

 

hahaha, creative solution!

[Darthrevan]

Moral of story?... If wanna hit, don't swing the steering wheel, hit it head on...

 

indeed..i would do that too!

[Pandapura]

To mitigate this..

Some of the owners who owns those cars that fared badly may attempt to crash head on instead.

 

Haha, good joke.

 

Not too sure though whether those bros who bought their new K3s will share your "light-hearted" suggestion.

 

[Kangadrool]

The AD already removed some of the safety features available overseas like the extra airbags so that the OMV will be lower. So the results will be different if they use the models that the ADs bring in.

 

I am even appalled that they are ADs that still bring in cars with lap belt on rear centre seat instead of 3-pointed belt. How much can they save?