Which 2nd hand car dealer is good?

[evidence]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time. 

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car. 

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

1st posting praise to the sky??

 

Bro,

 

This is what I did. Haha. Like preparing for exam.

 

1. Define your needs and budget

- Do not stretch your budget ( Economy not good )

- Focus on need not want ( but you must love the design and look )

This is what I did, because cars are expensive (initial outlay/maintenance) and it helps me narrow down my search focus.

- set aside some funds for repairs and replacement ( be realistic, old car sure have problems. Unless you are very lucky )

 

2. Research on Dealers and Cars

- Please do homework on dealers reputation and cars issues

( just search by : dealer name problems/review/feedback/blacklist or car name problems or go car forum to find ) btw, no bad review online is good, but it does not guarantee there are no issues.

- Shortlist types of car that meet your need and budget

- Shortlist dealers that you can gamble your trust on ( if possible select those that are members of SVTA and Case Trust )

This will shorten the list of cars available.

Do search frequently on the cars as there might be more cars listed as time goes by. Start search early.

 

- Things to note

Cars - batch problems, specific issues ( gearbox and such )

 

Dealers - List price on sgcarmart and ST cars may not be "real" , some tricks are -

- U called and enquired on a cheap car listed, they said available , but told you sold and recommend you another car when you went down to see the cheap car.

- Car Dealers posting as direct owners to avoid lemon law

- Claim to be 1 owner but infact is 2 or more.

 

Check car condition

- test drive if possible ( i did when we agreed on the price, but before I pay any deposit yet )

 

- Tire condition must check ( immediate cost for u, so u know what to expect and not surprise u , can nego abit too )

- interior ( really depends on your expectation )

- exterior ( really depends on your expectation )

- call authorized service center to check on warranty and last service date ( if you are buying less than 5yrs old car )

- Ask for STA Report or Do STA/VIA or AA Test

 

3. Pricing / payment

- Deposit usually they ask for 2k ( Usually put SGD500 or max 1k )

 

- Neg full refund of deposit if STA/Viacom test indicate possible

Accident ( chassis alignment ) ( but STA / Viacom test you pay lah )

 

- Neg price of car to the price you want ( here depends on car types, cheaper car maybe 3k down from list price, more expensive car is 5k down? This is just indicative, maybe forum old birds can advise )

To be sure, do home work to check market price for similar model.

 

- Admin fee - don't pay

 

- STA or Viacom - I paid for mine, some said can neg free with dealer

 

- insurance ( usually they prefer to use theirs ) you can don't use theirs but must pay them Sgd200 plus.

( I used theirs as only 200sgd more than my current insurance )

 

- Usually need to pay downpayment by cashier order or internet transfer ( I did internet transfer at their shop and they did transfer immediately )

 

That is all i have now.

 

Summary of my experience

- The dealer i went to did not have website, only facebook and details on Sgcarmart.

- I can't find any reviews or complaint online about the dealer

- The dealer is SVTA member

- It is at AML

- Price listed on Sgcarmart is Genuine

- I checked similar car at other dealers to have a feel of price and car condition

- I neg price and secure a test drive before placing Deposit

- Salesman not pushy

- They ask for Admin Fee - I did not pay. Just neg agreed on Final price of Car

- STA report is Grade B - Accepted and Collected car happily ( now i know AA test is known to be more detail , will go for AA next time )

- All done in 5 working days, can be shorter but i was busy

 

It was a long process, finally it is done.

 

Sorry for the WOT.

 

Hope it is useful

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well done, hope this will help others but the best to me is to bring ur

own mechanic to test the car for u....

[glyeo84]

1st posting praise to the sky??

 

well done, hope this will help others but the best to me is to bring ur

own mechanic to test the car for u....

 

Yes it's my first posting. Thank you for welcoming me. I am just sharing what i felt after i bought a used car from him.

 

I hope it's not wrong to be generous in giving compliments to people who have done well. 

 

Like i said, i'm not related to them and if you feel that my praise is too overwhelming, you can avoid using his services.

 

cheers and have a great week ahead. :)

[Jerrlim]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time. 

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car. 

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

 

Awwwwww. So sweet of you! Are you David Gan?

Also David Gan is the name of the famous hair dresser of mediacorp lady artistes such as Zoe Tay, Rui En, Fann Wong, etc. Did you recently changed profession to become used car dealer too?

 

 

[Wyfitms]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time.

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car.

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

Admin fee 1000 to 1500??

 

After reading all the horror stories and u agreed to not send car for inspection that cost abt $100 only? That's being cautious?

[SGCMVassago]

1st posting praise to the sky??

 

 

well done, hope this will help others but the best to me is to bring ur

own mechanic to test the car for u....

 

Never thought of that.

Should do that next time. Thanks for the tips. Cheers!

[Sunny]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time.

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car.

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

 

I thought u were Refering the botak David Gan talk until got hair

[Hamburger]

Naive until don't know what to say.....

Not related to ah gan.....of course I believe

[Fcw75]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time.

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car.

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

Hi David Gan!

[echang104]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but my Parallel import camry is coming to ten years this dec. If I choose not to extend coe is it better to sell to 2nd hand dealers or scrap?

[evidence]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but my Parallel import camry is coming to ten years this dec. If I choose not to extend coe is it better to sell to 2nd hand dealers or scrap?

Just to share w u....i also have a car balance six mths but i didnt want to pay road tax n renew insurance and so i decided to sell it...guess wat, my paper was $11200 at tat time n these dealers n scrap yards offer me $500 -1000 above paper n i was a bit upset...but i was patient enuff til i sold my car to a rental company...nowadays there r too many of them that can offer u higher than dealers.... Be on the look out for these companies.....

[echang104]

Thanks so much for the information. Can you give me the contact of some of the rental companies?

[Lim_pk]

Hi,

 

I would like to compliment David Gan for his professionalism and outstanding service from Choon Bee Motor and credit Pte Ltd.Please note that i am not related to them in any way.

 

Recently, I bought a Volkswagen from his good company under consignment purchase. And because it is my first car, i had tonnes of questions and doubts about buying a used car, especially after having read through umpteen horror stories from all the forums in mycarforum and hardwarezone about unscrupulous dealers. Hence, I was very cautious in my purchase and compared the services from at least 7-8 Agent Dealers. Some had very high admin fee from $1000 to $1500 and high deposits ie $2000-$3000. David was able to work out a reasonable all in price for the car. I was satisfied.

 

In my opinion, David is honest in answering all my questions promptly, provided useful suggestions and positive feedback. So much so till i felt bad about even bothering him via whatsapp at night after his working hours. He settled all the paperwork quickly and i bought the car with a peace of mind in about 2-3 weeks time.

 

The quality of the car was good and he delivered what he promised (ie, agreeing to rectify the cosmetic parts of the car such as dents and scratches). I trusted his words and i took the risk of not sending the car for inspection. ( please do this at your own peril as i have done and verified my servicing checks with Volkswagen singapore, hence this decision).

 

I would recommend his service to friends who are looking for a used car.

 

Look for David Gan from Choon Bee Motor & credit Pte Ltd.

 

Regards,

Ignatius

Happy owner of Passat cc Volkswagen

You are lucky. I'm just had a very unpleasant and upset experience with Motor East Pte Ltd. I bought a used car claim that full services at authorize car dealer.

What happen after few days drive. The engine oil level warning sign pops up. I called the dealer they said need to top up 1 little engine oil. It is normal for conti car. After top up. One week later pops up again. Send to recommended workshop to check. First, drain engine oil and change oil filter then go back monitor.

After 2 weeks drive 1400km engine oil warning lights up again. Go back to workshop, change another parts $600+. Come back monitor again. Drove another 1500km lights up again. This type need to leave the car for 2-3 weeks for major engine overhaul or trouble shooting for repair.

Another issue of the car was found double clutch is already worn. Replacement is $3-5k another how many days downtime not sure.

 

Called the used car dealers Motor East for help in courtercy car. It was unpleasant and firm ignore for discussion and encourage me to go ahead for any channel complain. Is anyone can help to advise.

[ER-3682]

You are lucky. I'm just had a very unpleasant and upset experience with Motor East Pte Ltd. I bought a used car claim that full services at authorize car dealer.

What happen after few days drive. The engine oil level warning sign pops up. I called the dealer they said need to top up 1 little engine oil. It is normal for conti car. After top up. One week later pops up again. Send to recommended workshop to check. First, drain engine oil and change oil filter then go back monitor.

After 2 weeks drive 1400km engine oil warning lights up again. Go back to workshop, change another parts $600+. Come back monitor again. Drove another 1500km lights up again. This type need to leave the car for 2-3 weeks for major engine overhaul or trouble shooting for repair.

Another issue of the car was found double clutch is already worn. Replacement is $3-5k another how many days downtime not sure.

 

Called the used car dealers Motor East for help in courtercy car. It was unpleasant and firm ignore for discussion and encourage me to go ahead for any channel complain. Is anyone can help to advise.

This car should be VW,either Jetta or Golf.

[Imac]

Planning to get a 2nd Mazda 2.

 

But dunno which dealer to go for or avoid?

 

Anyone can advice

 All used-car dealers are honest people....no worry...just buy....

 

[Boonkeng]

Anyone encountered car dealer which reduce the ODO readings?

[Porche]

This is common.

[Fcw75]

Anyone encountered car dealer which reduce the ODO readings?

My answer to you is which dealer doesn't?

 

Maybe with the exception of Henly.

[Boonkeng]

Oh. Didnt know there is such a practise. I just noticed the car i sold to the dealer was listed on SGCM with 50000 KM less.