Politicians Talk About Integrity

[Topgear57]

i dont believe in squeaky clean politicians. i think that is a myth. it's all about pot calling the kettle black.

[Count-Bracula]

KKN, these buggers should hit the Indonesians hard on the haze but were like half screwed pussies.

 

This hawker centre saga is only about cleaniness and tekan the oppo.

 

YOG and all the kokups conveniently sweep under the carpet?

 

talk about integrity? har har!

 

 

[Chucky2007]

Since Ms Vivian wants to talk about integrity, maybe he should refer to back to last month when he visited Inodnesian minister about the haze. After coming back, he said their minster apologize for the haze but later the foreign minister said they never apologize for it. So either he/Indonesian minister was "lying" or there was some miscommunication?

 

Indonesian minister apologize for haze???

Be very careful here... Indon dunno minister for something may say "hey dude, sorry about the haze".. but the indon minister may not have apologized actually.. so Ms V say their minister apologise, is kinda correct, just not the actual minister... Be warned don't anyhow say things. .

[Kb27]

When town council (pap) increase the fee in my mother's stall, how come no ministar come to defend "integrity" ?

[Vid]

When town council (pap) increase the fee in my mother's stall, how come no ministar come to defend "integrity" ?

 

You try writing to ST forum and ask them whether it is good politics. Vivi will answer you and PMO will issue statement.

[Jman888]

i dont believe in squeaky clean politicians. i think that is a myth. it's all about pot calling the kettle black.

 

 

agree, depends who is blacker.

[Kingkong]

i dont believe in squeaky clean politicians. i think that is a myth. it's all about pot calling the kettle black.

Maybe should get the Myth Busters do an episode on the myth of clean politicians???

[Kingkong]

he should fix his own house first.

His thinking :

Why should I fix my own house first???

By fixing all the oppo and should I be successful in cleaning them out, whatever policies I set, all 100% will have to OBEY.

Edited July 14, 2013 by Kingkong

[Johorat]

The way I interpret now is that it doesn't help in WP's case if PAP haters (especially WP and SDP supporters) are bringing in YOG issues or haze matters into the current discussion of hawker centers. This only proves that WP are not very clean or keen in answering the real question here.

 

I read the dossier in NEA side and it does not look favorable on WP's town council. The NEA officers' career are at stake. The reports and emails in the dossiers are not redacted, you can see the officers' fullname. A lot is at stake here.

 

The whole point of the matter is whether did Mr Tai say that the hawkers have to pay for extra scaffolding? According to NEA's internal report, yes, Mr Tai did say that.

 

Dunno why the matter become so big.

 

Tai was quoting in the context of minor spring cleaning which does not include cleaning of ceilings. Furthermore the dossier which contained the so called

[Kb27]

One thing for sure, pappy ministars like to nitpick on WP with every chance they get.

The more they do, the less popular they become.

[Passat57]

agree, depends who is blacker.

 

usually the one in power is officially less black, because they set the rules. Governments don't set fair playing ground, as someone implied. Recently, heard can blackout during vote counting also?

Edited July 14, 2013 by Passat57

[Duckduck]

[1fast1]

 

YM and YPM - my favourite shows, ever. Loved watching it as a kid, and absolutely adored the novelisations of both series by Anthony Jay and Jonathan Lynn.

 

Have you seen the modern remake? Don't. It's a pale shadow of its former glory - almost painful to watch. This, despite the fact that the same writers were on board for the new one. Nothing 'clicked' - atrocious acting, trite dialogue, hackneyed humour.

Edited July 14, 2013 by Turboflat4

[Playtime]

YM and YPM - my favourite shows, ever. Loved watching it as a kid, and absolutely adored the novelisations of both series by Anthony Jay and Jonathan Lynn.

 

Have you seen the modern remake? Don't. It's a pale shadow of its former glory - almost painful to watch. This, despite the fact that the same writers were on board for the new one. Nothing 'clicked' - atrocious acting, trite dialogue, hackneyed humour.

 

Got remake ah?

What is the title?

 

A Singapore version would be fantastic. So much materials.

[2BDriver]

One thing for sure, pappy ministars like to nitpick on WP with every chance they get.

The more they do, the less popular they become.

It's a long arguments when one asked for a simple answer of " Yes or No ", and the the "NO" answer been clearly given instantly but one just refused to accept what he had asked earlier and keeps harping, repeating his foolish inquisitive argumentum in wasting a Country Constructive Parliamentarism

Do not click the below link if you are too busy to read such a unnecessary points raised in Singapore Parliament recently

http://thehearttruths.com/

Edited July 15, 2013 by Fongmy

[Joseph22]

quoting of FMSS by them is just a smoke screen.

 

I follow the issues, and cant help but notice the fundamental difference:

 

AIMgate was investigated internally, and despite all the glaring issues, was declared clear.

 

FMSS was mentioned in WP audited statement and certifued clear by an independant auditor.

 

Need not say more.

Audit only to see if they follow procedure. The question is still, why only 1 tender.

 

In my opinion, its two of the same.

 

Anyway not important since wp also give up on aim saga after FMSS is been reveal.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Joseph22

[Latio2005A]

Audit only to see if they follow procedure. The question is still, why only 1 tender.

 

In my opinion, its two of the same.

 

Anyway not important since wp also give up on aim saga after FMSS is been reveal.

 

Do not quite agree with your point. Please see below, esp the bold part. On the other hand, Teo Ho Ping was "quietly" going about the AIM saga until it was exposed. Herein lies the fundamental difference.

(Am not taking sides due to partisan politics, but rather, I am basing on available info in the overt.)

 

 

Managing agent contract tendering process

 

In 2011, Ms Lim exercised her rights as Chairman of the TC to waive a tender for the MA contract when it was first awarded after the GE. The Town Council Financial Rules provide for tender process to be waived in certain circumstances. The reason for the waiver was the urgency in the public interest to put in place a Managing Agent to handle the handover in time.

 

In 2012, Aljunied-Hougang Town Council (AHTC) issued an open tender for a new MA contract. There were three companies that picked up the tender documents, but only FMSS submitted a tender. AHTC was aware of its duties when dealing with a sole tenderer, and that the TC needed to ensure value for money for its residents. AHTC had also commissioned a special external audit of the tender award as an additional assurance of compliance and good governace practices, and that steps had been taken to ensure value for money.

[Joseph22]

Do not quite agree with your point. Please see below, esp the bold part. On the other hand, Teo Ho Ping was "quietly" going about the AIM saga until it was exposed. Herein lies the fundamental difference.

(Am not taking sides due to partisan politics, but rather, I am basing on available info in the overt.)

 

 

Managing agent contract tendering process

 

In 2011, Ms Lim exercised her rights as Chairman of the TC to waive a tender for the MA contract when it was first awarded after the GE. The Town Council Financial Rules provide for tender process to be waived in certain circumstances. The reason for the waiver was the urgency in the public interest to put in place a Managing Agent to handle the handover in time.

 

In 2012, Aljunied-Hougang Town Council (AHTC) issued an open tender for a new MA contract. There were three companies that picked up the tender documents, but only FMSS submitted a tender. AHTC was aware of its duties when dealing with a sole tenderer, and that the TC needed to ensure value for money for its residents. AHTC had also commissioned a special external audit of the tender award as an additional assurance of compliance and good governace practices, and that steps had been taken to ensure value for money.

 

imho, getting a External Auditor doesnt really ensure anything as we know auditor are only auditing base on policy.

 

However, the one i highlight in red is more important. there is tender to 3 companies. and only 1 reply.

this is enough reason for them to go ahead and likely to say its clean. something i miss out. kudos to WP.