Meanmachine Supercharged June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 A discussion based on discussion on how best to improve COE bidding system ? - One family one car ? -Cap on car loan to value -50-50% -Impose levies on 2nd/3rd car justifiable ? - Judge on car horse-power ? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Clutched June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 I think Singaporeans love their cars. Few will support the horsepower measure. Finally, we have a system that doesn't penalise on small engine high powered cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Best way? Tackle the root cause 1) Get rid of the FTs (PMETs). failing that, 2) Get rid of the P@P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged June 16, 2013 Author Share June 16, 2013 Best way? Tackle the root cause 1) Get rid of the FTs (PMETs). failing that, 2) Get rid of the P@P. Bro, U can get rod of (1), but i donot think you can get rid of (2), hence youmust do something to create a (3) . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluboxed 1st Gear June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 The best way? remove COE system lo.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Sometimes I think ppl are very cute. Try to take a few steps back to see the big picture. When someone put so many vehicles on the roads, how to solve congestion? Think about it, the more cars ppl buy the merrier for them, tweak the system makes their bank account even fatter. They say control car population, implementing more policies, all help to do one thing and one thing only. Do not be a fool and think ideas will help improve traffic conditions. There's only one obvious winner here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthrevan Supercharged June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Best way? Tackle the root cause 1) Get rid of the FTs (PMETs). failing that, 2) Get rid of the P@P. i love both suggestion 1 & 2..but truth be told..both are not easy..especially with so many daft sinkies still supporting P@P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 (edited) Asking for feedback....I think they are asking the obvious and they already know. Ask yourself, why is peak hour traffic smoother on school holidays? Why can't the authorities start from there? See what is the cause and think of ways to solve the problem. I'm not saying to let students have plenty of school holidays. Surely there are reasons why during normal school days there is so much traffic. Tweak tweak tweak the coe system also no point. Trying to control ppl to buy this buy that is very un-democratic. Edited June 16, 2013 by Watwheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix0405 5th Gear June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Asking for feedback....I think they are asking the obvious and they already know. Ask yourself, why is peak hour traffic smoother on school holidays? Why can't the authorities start from there? See what is the cause and think of ways to solve the problem. I'm not saying to let students have plenty of school holidays. Surely there are reasons why during normal school days there is so much traffic. Tweak tweak tweak the coe system also no point. Trying to control ppl to buy this buy that is very un-democratic. Totally agree. There is no problem with the COE system. The problem is with LTA's over project and sudden cut back; the previous 100% , 10 yr financing; allowing agents to bid on buyers' behalf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamz83 Neutral Newbie June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Here's my thought on the list of policy 1) not allow to take any loan. Buy whatever car in CASH 2) scrap COE 3) impose leive for owners who own more than 1 car 4) impose leive to house hold own more than 2 cars 5) the leive system should take over the Coe system. Ppl bid for a piece of paper for their 2nd car onwards( owner) or 3rd car onward (household) Everything should be 100% cash!!!! Feel free to comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Asking for feedback....I think they are asking the obvious and they already know. Ask yourself, why is peak hour traffic smoother on school holidays? Why can't the authorities start from there? See what is the cause and think of ways to solve the problem. I'm not saying to let students have plenty of school holidays. Surely there are reasons why during normal school days there is so much traffic. Tweak tweak tweak the coe system also no point. Trying to control ppl to buy this buy that is very un-democratic. The obvious solution is to stagger or shift the starting school hour to later, maybe 8.30am, 9am or whatever. however, this will also mean the working hour of the parent has to be shifted. changing the office hour is up to private organisation and so the gahment cannot dictate. and dont forget civil service have to start to serve the public at 8.30am , some like poly clinic even earlier. so changing the school hours is not so simple can improve the peak hour traffic thats it. now already primary school some are afternoon session already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 (edited) Here's my thought on the list of policy 1) not allow to take any loan. Buy whatever car in CASH 2) scrap COE 3) impose leive for owners who own more than 1 car 4) impose leive to house hold own more than 2 cars 5) the leive system should take over the Coe system. Ppl bid for a piece of paper for their 2nd car onwards( owner) or 3rd car onward (household) Everything should be 100% cash!!!! Feel free to comment my comment is, have you finished your homework for the hols ? btw is levy. Edited June 16, 2013 by Ingenius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moadia 1st Gear June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Best way? Tackle the root cause 1) Get rid of the FTs (PMETs). failing that, 2) Get rid of the P@P. Strongly agree.. it will not only solve d car issue but also inflation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeydatdog Neutral Newbie June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 Only pure Singaporean can buy car! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jq1988 4th Gear June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 higher COE, higher COE to new cars......not high enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandaeyes Neutral Newbie June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 It is very unlikely that the COE system will be removed. It's like slapping themselves in their own faces and admitting that the system was flawed all the while and they just realized it. Neither will they further punch themselves in their faces to tweak it to a point that everyone can happily buy a car with super low COE like yesteryears. Hence my take is that from now to 2016 it is unlikely to see big changes. Very most to please the middle and lower income groups they may just slap a surcharge on 2 n more car owners. Pleasing general public is effortless when can still milk the cash cow. High COE plus surcharge on 2 or more. Make private transport more expensive to maintain too. Higher ERP plus higher road tax plus whatever taxes that can regulated. Double triple and quadrupled happiness for the coffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penknife 5th Gear June 16, 2013 Share June 16, 2013 If there's no COE, can you take the congestion everyday? When i was in bangkok, sometimes even walking is faster than traveling on the road (that only applies to short distance trips) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Clutched June 17, 2013 Share June 17, 2013 Here's my thought on the list of policy 1) not allow to take any loan. Buy whatever car in CASH 2) scrap COE 3) impose leive for owners who own more than 1 car 4) impose leive to house hold own more than 2 cars 5) the leive system should take over the Coe system. Ppl bid for a piece of paper for their 2nd car onwards( owner) or 3rd car onward (household) Everything should be 100% cash!!!! Feel free to comment 1) Might as well, ban citizens from taking any loan. Then, Ah Long will control the market. 2) Scrap COE, our traffic jams will rival Jakarta. 3) How much levy is enough to deter? Besides, rich owners don't clog out streets. 4) Too many loopholes for successful implementation. 5) Too many loopholes- Proxy bidding, double transfer, black market transactions, etc. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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