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They must have been caught because they asked employees to leave with a stupid reason.

 

How can you say the employees are not qualified when you would have screened their CV (presumably)?

 

By the way, anyone know what business they do?

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Sometimes it's really difficult to find people to work.

 

My company have 2 position hired 3mths ago to replace a Singaporean who went on to assume a higher position.

 

The 2 replacement, one foreigner one local, after working 3mths both decided to find new job.

 

Possibly bcos my CO hired them as contract staff, and the new position one of them have is permanent. The foreigner was said to have resigned w/o a job.

 

Both in administrative roles.

Think my company pay is slightly above market rate

Is it really so hot in the employee market?

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Maybe local employment law should study what the Korean govt is doing. Over there, you can't just retrench as and when you like unless the company is making a loss.

 

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Summary.

 

Employer fine $1 per every minute she late for work even after he give her allowances to start work at 9.30 instead of 9am and she still being frequent late for work.

 

Than she lost an excel file she is working on and she was told to backup their work but she didn't and thus deduct 70% of her.. pay.

 

Under contract terms of her 1yr contract, she need to pay back 3 months salary should she leave company in her contract terms.

 

And employer refused to pay her whole month of march because she was absent without leave for 2 days.

 

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So is employer being fair to employee in this incident that happened.

this one stupid lah! if the employer charges $1/min for late.. then she could've demand to get $1/min for OT!!

 

like that 1 hr OT = $60!! everyday work OT for 2 hrs and see the company can tahan or not!! easily can cover her basic salary!! hahahaha

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Maybe local employment law should study what the Korean govt is doing. Over there, you can't just retrench as and when you like unless the company is making a loss.

 

 

 

many korean come here as waiter too, just like the taiwanese.

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It's up to our MPs to raise and support labor protection laws. Though the lack of these laws also made our economy more competitive and agile. In Korea and Japan, they have other ways to pressure people to leave the company.

 

 

Yap. I know of a case in Korea where this MNC had a verbal agreement with this local director.

The director will take a 6 months paid leave and after that resign on his own.......but after 6 months, he refuse to leave knowing the local law will protect him.

 

what this MNC did was reassign this director a new job. everyday go to HR office do nothing but count paper clips, and the company spread this in the industry.

 

Korean being Korean, face value is very impt. in the end, this director resign on his own.............but his reputation also damage already in the industry.

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what this MNC did was reassign this director a new job. everyday go to HR office do nothing but count paper clips, and the company spread this in the industry.

 

 

 

Using reassignment of job is very common. I am sure some can survive it.

this one stupid lah! if the employer charges $1/min for late.. then she could've demand to get $1/min for OT!!

 

like that 1 hr OT = $60!! everyday work OT for 2 hrs and see the company can tahan or not!! easily can cover her basic salary!! hahahaha

 

How to when OT needs approval ?

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Using reassignment of job is very common. I am sure some can survive it.

 

I am sure some can count paper clips day in and day out until the brain become jelly. [:p]

 

parkroyal @ pickering has quite a few at their coffeehouse

the face got mod or not? :D

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I am sure some can count paper clips day in and day out until the brain become jelly. [:p]

 

 

And why not - the pay is definitely good ! [laugh]

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Maybe local employment law should study what the Korean govt is doing. Over there, you can't just retrench as and when you like unless the company is making a loss.

 

There is a grp of pple protected by the uninked law.

 

U can find this grp from sme to......

 

What counts r not calibre but network.

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I am sure if MOM really check more company, there should be a lot more of such cases.

Agree. This is probably only a single tip of the many icebergs.

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I put myself in the shoes of the employer (Im an employee). If the staff is performing well, working late without being calculative, I wouldnt mind if the staff comes late. Its all about flexibility.

 

However, if the staff attitute is sucks, start work late and go back on dot (worst still, go back early) even when her work is not finished, MIA without leave application or MC, under performing & etc. I would have kick her out during the probation period.

 

Not trying to be mean but if soft hearted and keep such garbage in the company, the negative attitute will spread like cancer. Worst still, if punish her financially, mentally or physically (make her stay back if she cant finish her work). It will back slash and bring bad reputation to the company.

 

 

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Yap. I know of a case in Korea where this MNC had a verbal agreement with this local director.

The director will take a 6 months paid leave and after that resign on his own.......but after 6 months, he refuse to leave knowing the local law will protect him.

 

what this MNC did was reassign this director a new job. everyday go to HR office do nothing but count paper clips, and the company spread this in the industry.

 

Korean being Korean, face value is very impt. in the end, this director resign on his own.............but his reputation also damage already in the industry.

 

I love counting paper clips, especially if being paid a director's salary.

 

Face is not important to me, I would have happily stayed on.

 

:D

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Think its only the Tip. Further, replaced by FW? If exec earning 3k replaced by S Pass 2.2k. Mgr earning 4.5k replaced by EP earning 3.3k.

 

Also must note that for S & EP, above is the min amt. Older FW with more exp should command more. However, with FW, what if the employer under-declare the salaries.... or declare correctly but flip here & there till the FW only gets ~half the declared amount?

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