Steptronic Supercharged May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 I pump shell 98 ler...but 1.6 still underpowered....exora mpv...can 2.0 bimmer beat those irritating taxis on the road?...their sonata and epica are very powerful ler...once they revvvv, you can't even see their tail light...very fast...super fast! Bimmer 2L with Turbo can beat any taxi (including those "E"s). Taxis cannot take up the corners any better than any Bimmer. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penknife 5th Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 what do i consider? it's all in the mind consider cc? bhp? price? model? country of origin? consider something which sips petrol or a petrol guzzler a civic 1.8 to a scirrocco 1.4, an upgrade or downgrade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 Also can argue... 2007 you drive a 2.4L Toyota Camry. 2011 you drive a 1.6L Volvo S80 So up grade or downgrade ?? In this case should based on badge liao. Toyota to volvo confirmed is upgrade. If you tell me volvo to audi, then must depends liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptronic Supercharged May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 what do i consider? it's all in the mind consider cc? bhp? price? model? country of origin? consider something which sips petrol or a petrol guzzler a civic 1.8 to a scirrocco 1.4, an upgrade or downgrade? Considered upgrade based on options 1,2 and 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyfitms Twincharged May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 i would choose overall comfort and driveability of the car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckbuild 6th Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 I pump shell 98 ler...but 1.6 still underpowered....exora mpv...can 2.0 bimmer beat those irritating taxis on the road?...their sonata and epica are very powerful ler...once they revvvv, you can't even see their tail light...very fast...super fast! Actually why you wanna beat them? Just drive as per normal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penknife 5th Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 Considered upgrade based on options 1,2 and 4. to most people, it will be an upgrade. but the definition of upgrade/downgrade is interpreted differently among different people. there are no rules which says changing from what to what is an upgrade. so i rather consider everything as a change for the better. whether it's upgrade or downgrade, it's how you think and what the society thinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthboy 4th Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 how come comfort and luxury not on the list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passat57 3rd Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 I would use OMV as a yardstick. Even from new 335 series to a 10- years old Bentley, i still think it is upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 for me upgrade of car means I no longer drive car & hv a chauffeur too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifi3d 4th Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 Upgrade for me is to change from red plate to black plate. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky61 1st Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 (edited) I would consider modifying an existing car as an upgrade (eg upgrade brakes, upgrade suspension). Ur definition of 'upgrade' is to change car.... Edited May 22, 2013 by Sky61 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider 3rd Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 All these hard to compare lah... My case...was driving a 2nd hand Lancer GLXi (the one that looks like Evo 3) 1.6L...then change to a 6 year old Legacy 1.8GL...my Lancer was newer and Legacy is older and cheaper. But Legacy is a much bigger car and more powerful than the Lancer...so upgrade or downgrade ? For me I chose the Legacy cos it make sense...scrap value was 29K !! The selling price is 48K...so minus off the scrap value the car dep only around 5K a year...and after the 2nd year...every month the installment I pay...a part of "go back" to my scrap value...no brainer to drive this car. I remember correctly I put 20K for the downpayment...the interest I got back lagi better than putting money in the fix deposit. 20K principle amount...48 months get 9K as interest !! hahahahahaha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 Usually all of the above together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 To me, its more of change car. Never think if its upgrade or downgrade. And its old car change to newer car. When car is 5 year old, regardless if change to another used car or brand new car.. but must be newer definitely. Personally I will not go for another older car. If existing car is 1.5l 5 year old, change to a 2.4l 1,2,3,4 year old ok.. but not a 5 year onwards bigger car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfmatic Neutral Newbie May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 Higher depreciation !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooosh 1st Gear May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 My top 3 criteria is 1) Handling, 2) Power, 3) OMV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic May 22, 2013 Share May 22, 2013 To me, its more of change car. Never think if its upgrade or downgrade. And its old car change to newer car. When car is 5 year old, regardless if change to another used car or brand new car.. but must be newer definitely. Personally I will not go for another older car. If existing car is 1.5l 5 year old, change to a 2.4l 1,2,3,4 year old ok.. but not a 5 year onwards bigger car. You got a thing against older car? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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