Farrer Road Flyover Death trap

[Myxilplix]

lose traction over this is a joke shows how pathetic some drivers are

 

I second this fellow's comments.

 

How difficult is it to drive within safe limits (for the road conditions) and place your vehicle correctly within the lane to avoid the depressions/grilles? If someone were to do a count, they'd probably find that thousands of vehicles pass over that stretch of road daily, so why only some special people seem to encounter problems there? Is it so difficult to practice the observation of hazards (depressions/grilles) and apply the necessary actions to avoid them (position your vehicle within the lane so that your tires don't run into the depressions and yet your vehicle does not run out of the lane)?

 

I have driven over that stretch a countless number of times without issue and i'm sure many other members on this forum have as well. The CTE tunnels northbound also have similar depressions, but to a lesser extent.

 

It's not rocket science, just that so many people on the roads are complacent drivers and/or don't even possess the basic skills to handle their vehicles properly. I dare say a large number of them are also driving vehicles that are too large for their skill and/or confidence levels.

[Solar]

same here.. always drive just nice to avoid the grills yet still within the lane.

i actually didn't think much about losing traction, but rather a concern if those grills give way and my wheel/tyre get dropped inside while driving?

that'll be disastrous.. the whole thing can become separated from the car

[Myxilplix]

no la, some maybe don't know the road well and cannot react in time. anyway there was a study about reaction time and they realise it's not reaction time, but anticipating what will happen.

 

If they don't know the road well then they should not be driving at a speed that does not allow them to react in time, should they? Might as well stick to the centre or left lane and go abit slower since they don't know the road well.

 

But in this case the point is moot as the grilles and depressions are noticeable from a distance and allow sufficient time for forward planning and action, it is not a case of a sudden emergency or coming around a blind curve to find an obstruction in the road.

[Darryn]

Metal grilles esp on wet weather is a recipes for disaster. i learn this the hard way during my cycling days.

 

+ 5 on this -

 

Remember, for cyclists we have to avoid grills on the left lane, so do give us space or remember that if we are not all the way to the left their might be a reason

[Swifter78]

So far did anyone die? If not, Govt won't take action one lah.

[Watwheels]

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Woman driver....

 

The bend to me is ok. The grilles are avoidable coz the lane is wide enough. Bottom line is the driver skill. I notice many drivers dunno how to nego a bend. Sometimes they would like jam brake while nego a bend. Following behind such lousy drivers is dangerous and they like to be in the 1st lane.

 

Other dan this stretch of road the stretch of bends along ECP outside MBS also got many accidents. The metal barriers along the center divider is always new and shiny. And this is happening in both directions. Why? Coz of kuku drivers lor.

Edited April 29, 2013 by Watwheels

[Beachboy7718]

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Woman driver....

 

The bend to me is ok. The grilles are avoidable coz the lane is wide enough. Bottom line is the driver skill. I notice many drivers dunno how to nego a bend. Sometimes they would like jam brake while nego a bend. Following behind such lousy drivers is dangerous and they like to be in the 1st lane.

 

Other dan this stretch of road the stretch of bends along ECP outside MBS also got many accidents. The metal barriers along the center divider is always new and shiny. And this is happening in both directions. Why? Coz of kuku drivers lor.

 

Yes, it is matter of skill. Sorry to mention some roads LTA gives you the most min width to handle more lanes and traffic. Talking about the lornie road after this flyover, it is even narrower with those drainage holes at lane 1 and retaining wall at the side. My wife comments that she is frighten to drive here especially you take the middle lane while 2 big buses/lorries may squeze you out

 

Thus if you can not handle lane 1 or 2 then take lane 3 with slow and steady.

 

[Mockngbrd]

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Woman driver....

 

The bend to me is ok. The grilles are avoidable coz the lane is wide enough. Bottom line is the driver skill. I notice many drivers dunno how to nego a bend. Sometimes they would like jam brake while nego a bend. Following behind such lousy drivers is dangerous and they like to be in the 1st lane.

 

Other dan this stretch of road the stretch of bends along ECP outside MBS also got many accidents. The metal barriers along the center divider is always new and shiny. And this is happening in both directions. Why? Coz of kuku drivers lor.

That ECP stretch is like racing Chicanes...

[Kangadrool]

Just paint a continuous white line before (instead of after) the metal grill. Solve the problem. This is almost everywhere on the right kerb side now.

 

Yes, it will make the lane even narrower. But, will instill more careful and slower (good for road hoggers ) driving.

Edited April 29, 2013 by Kangadrool

[Zhutou]

i travel that road quite frequent

u can avoid the grill and yet stay in the lane

the lane quite big actually

[Zuoom]

maybe what LTA can do is to draw lines to guide drivers to keep out of the drainage grills.

[Azhiwen]

Yes, I travel through this flyover every day on the way to work and usually the cars travel towards the left of the right lane to avoid the grills. Thank god I have not seen any accidents yet (prolly cos morning traffic so everyone is going slower).

[Nullifi3d]

maybe what LTA can do is to draw lines to guide drivers to keep out of the drainage grills.

 

and then when you park your car, LTA will assign a maid to help you unbuckle your belt and hold your hands until you reach your house.

 

Seriously, aren't we expecting too much from LTA?

[Zuoom]

and then when you park your car, LTA will assign a maid to help you unbuckle your belt and hold your hands until you reach your house.

 

Seriously, aren't we expecting too much from LTA?

 

 

that's different from the proper drawing of the lanes.

i doubt i want them to nanny that way either.

 

as many have mentioned in their post that the lane is pretty wide.

 

by having proper and better marking to keep users on the path that does not interact with the the metal grills,

those incidents of skidding etc can be reduced/prevented.

 

i would also expect LTA to properly maintained the roads and their markings etc.

as in usage of anti-slip material on the markings (in line with the newest tech around the world) and warning function etc.

 

at many of those road dividers, those boundary lane marking are usually higher in nature and gives the user a "bump" as they cross it.. to alert to nearby danger.

this can be applied to these metal grills as they are potential danger.

 

the lane marking that i suggest is prob the easiest solution. to alert and keep drivers off those grills.

 

others would involve changing or retro-fitting the grills with some sort of anti-slip material,

or a complete design change of the grills.

[StefanK]

that's different from the proper drawing of the lanes.

i doubt i want them to nanny that way either.

 

as many have mentioned in their post that the lane is pretty wide.

 

by having proper and better marking to keep users on the path that does not interact with the the metal grills,

those incidents of skidding etc can be reduced/prevented.

 

i would also expect LTA to properly maintained the roads and their markings etc.

as in usage of anti-slip material on the markings (in line with the newest tech around the world) and warning function etc.

 

at many of those road dividers, those boundary lane marking are usually higher in nature and gives the user a "bump" as they cross it.. to alert to nearby danger.

this can be applied to these metal grills as they are potential danger.

 

the lane marking that i suggest is prob the easiest solution. to alert and keep drivers off those grills.

 

others would involve changing or retro-fitting the grills with some sort of anti-slip material,

or a complete design change of the grills.

 

Understand your basis of drawing lines.

 

But imo, those grills are hard to miss visually. If now, drivers cannot see the grills, they will have problems seeing the lines too.

 

Anyway, upon hitting the first grill, you should know to slow down if you insist on going over the next few grilles. If not, you would veer slightly towards your left to avoid them. That particular lane is wider than the others for a reason.

 

I'm not very sure but the same accidents don't happen at Lornie Road, and the lane is much smaller.

[Solar]

Understand your basis of drawing lines.

 

But imo, those grills are hard to miss visually. If now, drivers cannot see the grills, they will have problems seeing the lines too.

 

Anyway, upon hitting the first grill, you should know to slow down if you insist on going over the next few grilles. If not, you would veer slightly towards your left to avoid them. That particular lane is wider than the others for a reason.

 

I'm not very sure but the same accidents don't happen at Lornie Road, and the lane is much smaller.

 

i've seen many just drive over the grills.. either bochap or ignorant.

i'm quite sure many are just following textbook.. the theory book didn't say cannot drive over the grills what

[StefanK]

i've seen many just drive over the grills.. either bochap or ignorant.

i'm quite sure many are just following textbook.. the theory book didn't say cannot drive over the grills what

 

I drive over cos I bochap, but once my butt pain I will siam.

But hor, if you noticed hor that stretch speed limit is 70km/h.

[Altivo]

i've seen many just drive over the grills.. either bochap or ignorant.

i'm quite sure many are just following textbook.. the theory book didn't say cannot drive over the grills what

 

Those that drives over the grill are trying to imitate Takumi from Initial-D where he "kup" the drain when drifting down hill.