My near collision experience with an errant van

[Newdrive]

Hi all,

Some may have seen my post in another thread. Decided to post here instead in order not to clog up further for that thread.

 

Some corrections made, guess i remember some of the sequence of events wrongly.

 

I have also uploaded the first half of the video to show.

 

First half

(skip to 4:25 where is started)

 

Second half

(just watch first 10 seconds and skip the rest)

 

Sequence of events:

First Half

1. Initially I am behind this errant van, keeping a distance from him. 4:20 onwards

2. I change to first lane. 4:26

3. Van signal left and change to left lane. 4:35

4. I also signal left and change back to 2nd lane at same time black car infront of me do the same 4:42

5. At 4:49, the van is still signaling left while at the same time I am keeping a distance from the black car infront and also going to speed up to keep pace.

 

Second Half

6. At 0:06 , the van signal right and next second he start turning very fast and I didn't expect that. At 0:07, he is already very near my car just 1-2 cm near collision.

 

At this moment, I cannot speed up as explained earlier cos my speed wun be quick enough to shoot ahead of him and if i do so and he still dun slow down or stop, he will bang my back passenger door or rear of my car. so i slow down instead so the van can see my car presense and he did and he literally slow down or ebrake (not shown in video.)

 

7. At 0:09, the van literally stop or ebrake, i move forth and switch to his lane cos at 0:15 there is already a car behind me and i dun want to obstruct him. I admit after switching to his lane, i did slow down a little but i did not ebrake (see 0:10-0:13) cos i am asking if my gf is ok before I move on with my pace, all this while the van behind me still stopped or slowered his speed (cannot remember).

 

 

Hope this gives a better clearer picture what happen.

 

I know i should honk at the van but i dun have habit to honk if i must to... but in this case, it was too sudden all i can do is to slow down to prevent collision.

 

Advise is appreciated how to handle such situations next time.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Newdrive

[Yewheng]

100% in van blindspot, From the 1st video, you should either overtake or stay behind van abit and not stay beside 1/4 behind him for at least 5 seconds at same speed as van which is in his blindspot for too long and when he want change lane, he may not notice car beside him even if he turn his head to check for blindspot. So possible honest mistake from the van.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Yewheng

[Nzy]

From the markings on the road can see that you decided to speed up only when the van started to signal. Then why ebrake infront of the van after overtaking?

[Ender]

Why would you race up to the van only to cruise along with the van at his blind spot for more than 5 sec.

[Yewheng]

For me is very simple, if I encounter same situation as you in 1st video before the near accident, I will either overtake than maintain same speed as van or slow down abit to behind more than 1/2 of van. Just like motorbike , if motorbike want maintain same speed as car, make sure bike don't stay same speed as car at car blindspot for too long, if not accident waiting to happen will be magnified.

[Yeshe]

u self pwn lah, no defensive driving. why need to stick beside another vehicle for so long when the front is clear?

secondly, the van signalled at 0:05 and then u decide to speed up to let him knock u? at least horn him lah!

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:19 PM, Nzy said:

From the markings on the road can see that you decided to speed up only when the van started to signal. Then why ebrake infront of the van after overtaking?

 

wrong.

 

i did not see the van signal then i speed up. please see first half video first.

 

if u see sequence 4 & 5 (first half video).

 

when i change back to 2nd lane, i am already preparing to speed up (note: there is a black car in front of me also changing lane) to pace up with the black car in front so the gap wun be so big. thats at this time, the van decided to change back to his original lane and signal and turn immediately.

 

and wrong again. to ebrake and move, 1 sec possible (see second half video, 0:11-0:12, did i make a stop)? at least not possible with my car, its not that super responsive? i only change lane to be front of the van then slow down a little to check on my gf and move off. not ebrake. see the video again.

 

 

[Yewheng]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:25 PM, Neutrino said:

Blind spot with wing mirrors????

 

Anyway imo blindspot is no excuse. If can't see if safe to pull out then don't pull out.

 

Those are general cooments on your post not necessarily on the TS.

 

The thing is how will one know there is car at his blindspot if one is driving like that, lane change here and there and trust me, van blindspot is a lot bigger than car blindspot and who will turn head 120 degrees or more to check blindspot one. For van to notice TS car is only for the driver to turn head more than 120 degrees than can see.

 

So it is only when see the car than know it is in blindspot. The thing is don't stay at vehicle blindspot for too long especially heavy vehicles, van or lorry.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Yewheng

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:23 PM, Ender said:

Why would you race up to the van only to cruise along with the van at his blind spot for more than 5 sec.

 

 

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:26 PM, Yeshe said:

u self pwn lah, no defensive driving. why need to stick beside another vehicle for so long when the front is clear?

 

did u guys watch first half video?

 

please see again.

 

See 4:41 in the first half video, after i change back to lane 2, i am already picking up speed (how u immediately pick up speed the moment u change lane? tell me lah) but cannot SPEED too much,

 

 

if u notice there is a car in front of me doing the same?

 

when i am already picking up the speed (before i pickup speed the van did not signal k until second half video) and want to pass this van, he signal and suddenly turned!

 

-> after this see second half video, thats when the van signal and turn quickly!

 

if u see only second video, your impression is i purposely speed up. please see both videos.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Newdrive

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:29 PM, Yewheng said:

The thing is don't stay at vehicle blindspot for too long especially heavy vehicles, van or lorry.

yes my friend advise me the same. will take note and beware now.

[Yewheng]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:34 PM, Newdrive said:

yes my friend advise me the same. will take note and beware now.

 

Hope from the near miss, you get to understand van blindspot better, and be even more prepared next time if similar situation going to happen.

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:36 PM, Yewheng said:

Hope from the near miss, you get to understand van blindspot better, and be even more prepared next time if similar situation going to happen.

 

yes i definitely will cos my gf quite shaken. she even shouted to me what this van doing, going to bang into her already.

[Fcw75]

Just horn next time. Simple.

 

At 4:40 of the second half, you changed lane crossing double continous white line.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Fcw75

[JustGoodTrades]

TS, it just shows how inexperienced u are as a driver.

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:48 PM, JustGoodTrades said:

TS, it just shows how inexperienced u are as a driver.

i am a p plate. still a lot to learn.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Newdrive

[Nzy]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:29 PM, Newdrive said:

wrong.

 

i did not see the van signal then i speed up. please see first half video first.

 

if u see sequence 4 & 5 (first half video).

 

when i change back to 2nd lane, i am already preparing to speed up (note: there is a black car in front of me also changing lane) to pace up with the black car in front so the gap wun be so big. thats at this time, the van decided to change back to his original lane and signal and turn immediately.

 

and wrong again. to ebrake and move, 1 sec possible (see second half video, 0:11-0:12, did i make a stop)? at least not possible with my car, its not that super responsive? i only change lane to be front of the van then slow down a little to check on my gf and move off. not ebrake. see the video again.

 

Saw already. So your video is lying? The markings on the road was moving back at a faster rate when the van signaled.

 

Never stop but almost. Whether stop or not that braking was really too much when there is no emergency at all. I don't think that looks like slow down a little even if you say thats not an ebrake, its definitely very hard braking already.

[Yewheng]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:51 PM, Nzy said:

Saw already. So your video is lying? The markings on the road was moving back at a faster rate when the van signaled.

 

Never stop but almost. Whether stop or not that braking was really too much when there is no emergency at all. I don't think that looks like slow down a little even if you say thats not an ebrake, its definitely very hard braking already.

 

Ya, already overtake and pass the van, no need brake so hard to near complete stop. Continue with the journey. Lucky traffic is very light so brake hard to near complete stop is still ok, but if traffic is moderate and you do that, I tell you, it may cause chain accident.

[Newdrive]

  On 4/23/2013 at 12:51 PM, Nzy said:

Saw already. So your video is lying? The markings on the road was moving back at a faster rate when the van signaled.

 

Never stop but almost. Whether stop or not that braking was really too much when there is no emergency at all. I don't think that looks like slow down a little even if you say thats not an ebrake, its definitely very hard braking already.

 

which part u talking about? second half video after i went in front the van?

 

if u talking about this part.

 

if ebrake and move on, takes how long for u?

 

i am driving vios, from ebrake to move off, it will takes me longer then 1 second cos my car isn't that responsive as other fast cars.

 

from second half video, 0:10-0:11-0:12-0:13-0:14 u sure i brake hard or ebrake? i can tell u atmost i am travelling at 20-30 after switching to the van's lane.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Newdrive