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Silklee

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Beehive3783

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There is still a physical connect between the rack and the steering wheel, just that the electric assist is so strong that it numbs the feeling.

Of course I know there is still a mechanical connection [laugh]

 

What I'm saying is, the feel of electric power steering can be tweaked electronically, something which cannot be done for mechanical power steering.

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VellfireS

VellfireS

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E90 is heavy, almost feel like no power steering at parking speed. But the feel and feedback when going through fast corner is solid [:)][:)]

 

hahaha.. true.. well.. German Engineering bro.. [laugh]

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VellfireS

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That time i compare with my A8, my friend 520i freakin heavy ah

 

HAHA... BRO.. you compare with 7 nvm.. with 5 cannot compare le.. coz your A8 steering is quite light right? [rolleyes]

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Silklee

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stream and civic 1.8 have very responsive steering and they are based on hydraulic steering system

 

Sorry. I probably should have asked this at one go. So, what steering mechanism does the latest Camry use? The feel seems somewhere in between the civic and the teana.

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Fuelsaver

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To start off, as a benchmark, I am driving a 2008 1.8L civic.

I have test driven a few cars and noted very different feels when it comes to the steering.

 

To me, one of the main dislike when i test drive the Estima and Teana is how light the steering feels. It seems that from stationery or low speed, i need to turn the steering a lot before the car starts to turn. And faster speeds, it seems to be more 'responsive', thus the feel of the steering response being kind of inconsistent.

 

The steering feel on my civic is different. The car seems to respond much better to slight turns on the steering. The latest camry is also fine.

 

Is it that the implementation of the steering on the civic and camry is very different from that of the estima and teana.

 

Can anyone shed some light (or some sort of technical explanation) on the different feel of the steering.

 

I will however have to say that the test drives on the estima, teana and camry are for a short distance only.

Hey bro! I thot jaws the only freak thinking about what u mentioned.

 

I also think the turning ratio was different. I test driven fortuner n sylphy.

 

I can't even manage to u turn to the lane I wanted without going slower than usual.

 

N steering is so light that its scary, cos mayb used more strength so have tendency to over steer a bit. The feedback from fortuner also scary despite light feel, any feedback fr road transmitted to steering wheel so strongly. If don't grip tighter can throw light steering outta direction.

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Fuelsaver

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Totally agree with you. Civic 1.8 is about 1 and quarter turn to lock, some of these bigger cars take more turns lock to lock. It's very similar feel to my current ride in term of turning, although Audi is well known (notorious) for its very light steering.

 

But for me I like light steering :D

Spot on! I turned fortuner steering as if it can turn "forever".

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Thaiyotakamli

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HAHA... BRO.. you compare with 7 nvm.. with 5 cannot compare le.. coz your A8 steering is quite light right? [rolleyes]

can adjust whether want comfort or dynamic, even dynamic still lighter, tried 7 series also not that heavy

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Gohsj89

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Sorry. I probably should have asked this at one go. So, what steering mechanism does the latest Camry use? The feel seems somewhere in between the civic and the teana.

 

lol nothing to sorry about.Camry I am not very, but at the same time... quite certain it's on electronic.

 

There are a few kind of Power Steering.

1) Hydraulic Assisted

Heavy or Light, depend on the car itself.When driving at hi-speed, you can feel the steering is significantly lighter than slow speed / stationery and that tells you your car is floating!! and i usually slow down.

personal experience: Honda Stream, Civic (1.8 only), Toyota Vios (old), Corolla (1st gen altis), Hyundai Getz...

 

2) Electronic Motor Assisted.

-Normal type: works the same as Hydraulic steering, usually much lighter than Hydraulic.Whether your car floats a not because of hi-speed it will still feel the same

personal experience: Honda Civic (except 1.8), City, Toyota Vios (new), Hyundai Avante, Nissan Latio...

 

3) Active Electronic Motor Assisted (my analogy term)-

When car is stationery, steering will be super light because the motor will work harder for you.

-When car is in motion or hi-speed, the steering will be heavy because the motor makes it heavier which i find, gives you a false sense of security because you won't even know if you are floating.

personal experience: Old Honda Jazz

 

Not sure what's other forumer view on this..

these are my Point Of View. Thus, I would prefer Hydraulic steering anytime...

 

I drive a Vios and i also frequently drive a Stream.Steering is definitely very different but no issue of adapting.

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Wormvirus

Wormvirus

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well done for a 89, young boy very shiok already master so many jap car steering feel but can tell u never drive good conti car b4,

 

good car at high speed power assist is nearly cut off so ur arm power is the new assist, if 1 arm dig nose & u drive very fast, very hard to turn steer but yet very sensitive to tiny lane change,

 

thats why even at very high speed cars like porsche can easily outmaneuver typical car

 

its not the steer that entire matters, its the suspension setup

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Tsr729

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Teana quite heavy steering. Wait till try a mit colt.

 

Driven a mit colt plus. Steering super light. Can use one finger to turn.

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Flameblade

Flameblade

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Volvo have the heaviest steering of all....in my opinion

 

Have these 2 cars at home. My Alfa Romeo 159 has a even heavier steering feel compared to the Volvo S80 even at the "heaviest" setting that you can set in the car menu on the Volvo.

 

Worst steering feel/feedback have to come from those Korean cars. Light, overly assisted and lack of feel and they tend to quickly snap back to self center after turning which is quite unusual and weird in my opinion.

 

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