Spurman Supercharged June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 Wah lan len.. Ciq n cbd so big diff. Its like a children spelling mistake sia. Or like telling taxi i wan2 take kpe, but taxi take pie, ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic June 20, 2015 Author Share June 20, 2015 Pinacle aunty can sleep easy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camrysfa Turbocharged June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 A HSR has no place in SG – at a top speed of 300 km/h , it will roll over the into the sea at Changi after 6 mins of travel from Tuas. Hah, just a joke. Won’t doubt the usefulness of a HSR. HSR is a people mover. Airplanes and ships are people and goods movers. Nevertheless, can’t say the HSR won’t have economic spin-offs. Who does not prefer to have a HSR at their doorstep? So the termination at Jurong ( instead of Johor) should be welcomed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 HSR is useless for Singapore (internally) for sure but it would be very useful to connect to Melaka > KL > Ipoh > Penang but so far the only "business sense" is KL and Penang (but Penang by air faster) A HSR has no place in SG – at a top speed of 300 km/h , it will roll over the into the sea at Changi after 6 mins of travel from Tuas. Hah, just a joke. Won’t doubt the usefulness of a HSR. HSR is a people mover. Airplanes and ships are people and goods movers. Nevertheless, can’t say the HSR won’t have economic spin-offs. Who does not prefer to have a HSR at their doorstep? So the termination at Jurong ( instead of Johor) should be welcomed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 A HSR has no place in SG at a top speed of 300 km/h , it will roll over the into the sea at Changi after 6 mins of travel from Tuas. Hah, just a joke. Wont doubt the usefulness of a HSR. HSR is a people mover. Airplanes and ships are people and goods movers. Nevertheless, cant say the HSR wont have economic spin-offs. Who does not prefer to have a HSR at their doorstep? So the termination at Jurong ( instead of Johor) should be welcomed. Jurong is good HSR is designed for intercity. Singapore itself is a city and with such density, the HSR will cause more noise pollution and takes up prime CBD land. Its better to stop at jurong to cater the west of singapore while east catered by changi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 (edited) I think that could be the reason. We know la, sometimes media do makes big errors in publishing articles. Sometimes they just want to make news more entertaining and just went ahead publish. Lack of QC. I feel our leaders are abit too sensitive. Perhaps should call them to clarify instead of releasing the official statement so fast. As media at times do misquote. We should communicate with malaysian side too, this shows lack of communication and little thing also no see eye to eye not very good. We are now in year 2015 already where technology is so advanced. A call, watsapp, or email asking they. Eg "Hey, you are joking right? Thought we agreed that it will terminate at jurong east?" and see what their reply is before releasing official statement. As maybe Malaysia side reply " eh, bro sorry. I been misquoted. We do not mean terminate at ciq but actually would prefer to stop at city centre instead and blah blah.... " like that will not look bad on both parties as then our ministers would then wrote official statements that we have since clarify with malaysian transport minister and it was misquoted . That would be better right? Someone's mistake or lack of QC cast even more worry for Singapore. SGP gov had commited to the project with $, land and resources for this long term investment. The last thing we want is the other side to continue that same 'tidak apa' attitude when handling this VIP. Knowing full well what past nasty experience we had before with M'sian officials, we have to be very clear and even more concise in any official position...it is kidding to ask business dealing be done over social media. If these simple communication baseline cannot be met, we might as well call off the HSR deal. Edited June 20, 2015 by Wishcumstrue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 Jurong is good HSR is designed for intercity. Singapore itself is a city and with such density, the HSR will cause more noise pollution and takes up prime CBD land. Its better to stop at jurong to cater the west of singapore while east catered by changi Yes, HSR is meant for intercity travels and the minimum ideal distance between stops is around 300km, which is the case for KUL-SIN direct route. This also includes viable operating profit for such line when there are critical mass between both terminus to be financially sustainable. Singapore had stated this position from the very beginning even before the MOU was signed by both PM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 A HSR has no place in SG – at a top speed of 300 km/h , it will roll over the into the sea at Changi after 6 mins of travel from Tuas. Hah, just a joke.... What I gathered so far, there is strong hint the Singapore section maybe fully underground to save land space. This case is stronger given the fact Jurong Terminus will be located underground, a strong indication that Singapore prefer almost the entire HSR rail to be in tunnel. This will require the train to half its surface speed of +300kph. A good example is the 50km Channel Tunnel where the TGV train (Eurostart HSR) will run at 160kph in tunnel while the surface speed is avg 300kph between London and Paris. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpsexx 6th Gear June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 What I gathered so far, there is strong hint the Singapore section maybe fully underground to save land space. This case is stronger given the fact Jurong Terminus will be located underground, a strong indication that Singapore prefer almost the entire HSR rail to be in tunnel. This will require the train to half its surface speed of +300kph. A good example is the 50km Channel Tunnel where the TGV train (Eurostart HSR) will run at 160kph in tunnel while the surface speed is avg 300kph between London and Paris. Yup. Think you're right on the underground part for SG HSR path.. Looking at the existing path from Tuas customs to JCC, both sides of AYE fully built up with factories and no surface to lay HSR tracks.. only way is under... Also the areas around JCC and on opposite side (former daihatsu dealer side ) are clear for redevlopment and the AYE from Yuan Ching to JE flyover shld be moved underground... so the whole piece of surface land from Bird park till Teban and bound by Jln Buroh to JE mrt track is open for all sorts of development.. the HSR will be in the center of these.. really huat for those already entrenched in JE now & for the govt... so who still say we are not going for 6.9 m population? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 (edited) Jurong no $2500psf no talk ... huat ah! Edited June 20, 2015 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 20, 2015 Share June 20, 2015 What I gathered so far, there is strong hint the Singapore section maybe fully underground to save land space. This case is stronger given the fact Jurong Terminus will be located underground, a strong indication that Singapore prefer almost the entire HSR rail to be in tunnel. This will require the train to half its surface speed of +300kph. A good example is the 50km Channel Tunnel where the TGV train (Eurostart HSR) will run at 160kph in tunnel while the surface speed is avg 300kph between London and Paris. Yah moreover singapore is a small city, plus distance between jurong and tuas aint that far, the hsr maybe will only travel the speed of mrt lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camrysfa Turbocharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Taiwan HSR – end to end fare is NT1,600 (SGD 70) – not bad it is comparable to a coach ride from SG to KL. Taiwan’s HSR is within 90% of the country’s population. Don’t think MY HSR has such a large catchment. Initial estimates of ridership was 180,000 passengers per day. The HSR caused some domestic airline connections to fold up. 2012 figures reported ridership improved to about 120,000 per day. Initial 4 years , the HSR was in the red. Presently, it is profitable. The Taiwan line is also about 300 km. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Taiwan HSR – end to end fare is NT1,600 (SGD 70) – not bad it is comparable to a coach ride from SG to KL. Taiwan’s HSR is within 90% of the country’s population. Don’t think MY HSR has such a large catchment. Initial estimates of ridership was 180,000 passengers per day. The HSR caused some domestic airline connections to fold up. 2012 figures reported ridership improved to about 120,000 per day. Initial 4 years , the HSR was in the red. Presently, it is profitable. The Taiwan line is also about 300 km. Actually if malaysia want to build HSR, should extend all the way to peneng. If not the ridership I believe will not be a lot leh. 1st. So troublesome for those staying in the east. Need travel all the way down to jurong. If peak hours jam. No point. Might as well take plane. 2nd. Singapore to KL by car is about 4 to 5 hrs. This is still not too bad, many singaporeans still prefer to drive to KL instead of using HSR. If extend all the way to peneng is different leh. As it took longer about 7 to 8 hrs. Plus if extend to peneng, maybe peneng can slowly develop to become the next KL. 3rd. There are many malaysian work here stays at peneng side. So HSR stop at KL, it makes no sense as they still need to alight and take coach to peneng, might as well take direct flight to peneng. Don't know what malaysia side is thinking. Since want to build HSR might as well extend it to peneng. They have so big land that can be build above ground. So cost wise maybe add abit more and the ridership may be more sustainable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 (edited) based on current condition, 2020 is almost impossible la Head to the Kuala Lumpur HSR (high-speed rail) terminus in Bandar Malaysia (now the Royal Malaysian Air Force Sungai Besi airbase), check in and clear both the Malaysian and Singaporean Immigration and Customs before boarding the train. At Nusajaya, the train will cross the Johor Straits to Tuas via a new rail bridge. Once you arrive at the Singapore HSR terminus in Jurong East, head to the Jurong East MRT station and, in no time, you will be in the Singapore city centre. No more Immigration queues as you have stamped your passport in Kuala Lumpur. Nur Ismail says the proposed alignment and station locations have been some 80 per cent firmed up. A few parts are still pending input from different stakeholders. The stations will be in Bandar Malaysia, Seremban, Ayer Keroh, Muar, Batu Pahat, Nusajaya and Jurong East. The fare structure will be dynamic, depending on the load factor and peak and non-peak hours. SPAD says a one-way ticket may cost less than RM200 per person. Edited October 4, 2015 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 If the bolehland fella smart (which highly doubt it), they should fast horse add whip and get it up cause it benefit their people more...... imagine staying in KL, travel to SIN for work only take 45mins.... end of the day, earn S$ go back change RM$... huat.... But JIb Kor gang only think of own pocket first.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/03/southeast-asia-regular-and-high-speed.html 2022 if it happens. based on current condition, 2020 is almost impossible la Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 based on current condition, 2020 is almost impossible la Firstly, with Jib Kor so good to the people of SIN & Bolehland, doubt he can stay in power till 2020..... esp he work harder and get it to $1 to RM$4..... Secondly, they drag here drag there..... by 2020 if they can get the people to start work already can celebrate..... maybe by 2030 or 2040..... But like that also not bad.... by then most of us retire.... can take train to bolehland for fishing,.... .......... too bad by then don't think the snake can mari kita anymore..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 (edited) i will move to Muar or Batu Pahat ... 5000sqft bungalow sup sup water KL is 90mins la ... full time soccer Muar / Batu Pahat may be 45mins ... 1/2 time ... hahahaha If the bolehland fella smart (which highly doubt it), they should fast horse add whip and get it up cause it benefit their people more...... imagine staying in KL, travel to SIN for work only take 45mins.... end of the day, earn S$ go back change RM$... huat.... But JIb Kor gang only think of own pocket first.... Edited October 4, 2015 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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