Trapped for an hour at speed up to 200km/h with no brakes!

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  On 2/15/2013 at 10:02 AM, Viceroymenthol said:

I have done 250kmh during a few sustained spurts on the autobahn in southern Germany. Car was an A6 Avant 3.0 TDI. I was just following the cars in front and didn't know I was approaching that speed. Everything felt so right, so stable, so planted, so controlled. That's when I realized German cars are the real deal. It was just awesome.

 

Yup speed doesn't kill, it is stopping suddenly that does it.

 

I've always wanted to storm the Autobahn at least once in my life. Even more so than the Ring, mainly because I know the latter WILL kill me.

[Pureness]

tons of funny replies here

 

put spikes, direct him to big open space, probably a nascar race track because the f1 race tracks have areas where drivers are required to brake till almost 50km/h to do a u-turn

 

i think a good stupid idea would be to use a helicopter to lift his car up into the air so that the race will stop immediately

Edited February 15, 2013 by Pureness

[Nicholas]

  On 2/15/2013 at 9:47 AM, Turboflat4 said:

Actually, I was being respectful and restrained. Up till now. Because your suggestion is completely idiotic, and anyone with half a brain will tell you so.

 

If you think your "big open space" idea is workable, suggest a real life structure the police could've guided him into.

 

Until you offer an actual, workable suggestion with a concrete example, I will continue to state that it's an idiotic idea. Idiotic.

 

As to your second point, you're basically putting words in my mouth, because I never even gave any consideration to your idiotic suggestion of a big open space. Because such a thing can never be realised in practice barring an oval test track, which (as I said in my first post to you, which I'm beginning to regret, since you seem to be touchy as well as idiotic) I'm sure you'll suggest is right along his way.

 

Just say it doesn't work, why need to annoy me in doing so? If I am wrong I'll accept that I'm wrong. Explain why instead of saying something that was already stated in the article then put the smiley. If you think you were being respectful, then I have to say you lack EQ. Btw I was thinking along the lines of airports with spaces big enough for turning at such high speed of course. Will that work I don't know, I was just giving my opinion and adding to the discussion.

 

If that was idiotic, what about those who suggest spikes or pull handbrake? *shrugs*

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  On 2/15/2013 at 10:04 AM, Nicholas said:

Just say it doesn't work, why need to annoy me in doing so? If I am wrong I'll accept that I'm wrong. Explain why instead of saying something that was already stated in the article then put the smiley. If you think you were being respectful, then I have to say you lack EQ. Btw I was thinking along the lines of airports with spaces big enough for turning at such high speed of course. Will that work I don't know, I was just giving my opinion and adding to the discussion.

 

If that was idiotic, what about those who suggest spikes or pull handbrake? *shrugs*

 

OK, OK, I'll dial it back. It was your insistence on your idea that irritated me, plus you baited me in the last post. If you accept that your suggestion is unworkable, that's good enough for me. Peace.

 

Of course, the spikes/handbrake suggestions are equally unworkable - unless it's OK that the disabled driver gets killed in the process. If that's allowed, there are plenty of options. But this guy is considered an "innocent". When it's a killer or drug dealer or terrorist on the run, they'll use any means to bring him down. All's fair, etc.

 

Airport runways can certainly sustain that speed - but the turn is the issue. Any roadgoing car will lose control, likely flipping end over end if a sudden, significant steering input is attempted at that speed. Let alone a complete U-turn.

 

Just watch a program like Top Gear or Fifth Gear. They do plenty of high speed runs along runways. Not once do they attempt to turn the car around at top speed and go back the way they came. In fact, they have to be rather careful with their braking points to make sure they have enough tarmac to bring the car to a dead stop before they get creamed.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Turboflat4

[Beehive3783]

  On 2/15/2013 at 9:42 AM, Turboflat4 said:

I'll also be honest. I've only done 200 once in my current car (the Porsche). And I only tickled an indicated 200, didn't really exceed it by a lot. And I'll never do it again in this car.

 

The previous cars that really inspired the confidence to go to Vmax were my two WRXs, both of which I've had up to 240 km/hr. On ZR-rated tyres filled with nitrogen. God, I miss those Subarus.

 

Anyway, too old liao - really starting to leave my speedster ways behind.

I touched 185 though, in my kimchi family sedan.. that's the max it could go. Not exactly ball shrinking, but I probably won't do that anymore until I upgrade to something better.

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  On 2/15/2013 at 10:04 AM, Pureness said:

i think a good stupid idea would be to use a helicopter to lift his car up into the air so that the race will stop immediately

 

You may be onto something here. Apache helo with a big honking electromagnet. Pace him, match speed and suck him up!

Then rappel someone down to rescue him from the driver's compartment.

 

Brilliant. Sell it to Hollywood for the next Die Hard instalment.

 

BTW, I'm not being sarcastic - this is actually a theoretically workable idea. Just very expensive and very unlikely to be put into practice.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Turboflat4

[Nodtviedt]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:04 AM, Pureness said:

tons of funny replies here

 

put spikes, direct him to big open space, probably a nascar race track because the f1 race tracks have areas where drivers are required to brake till almost 50km/h to do a u-turn

 

i think a good stupid idea would be to use a helicopter to lift his car up into the air so that the race will stop immediately

 

That was actually quite a rather good idea!

[Nodtviedt]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:16 AM, Turboflat4 said:

You may be onto something here. Apache helo with a big honking electromagnet. Pace him, match speed and suck him up!

Then rappel someone down to rescue him from the driver's compartment.

 

Brilliant. Sell it to Hollywood for the next Die Hard instalment.

 

BTW, I'm not being sarcastic - this is actually a theoretically workable idea. Just very expensive and very unlikely to be put into practice.

 

I think an apache would never be fast enough.. some special helo might be required

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  On 2/15/2013 at 10:22 AM, Nodtviedt said:

I think an apache would never be fast enough.. some special helo might be required

 

Apache's top speed = 293 km/hr. Max take off load > 10,000kg.

 

I checked!

[Nodtviedt]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:22 AM, Nodtviedt said:

I think an apache would never be fast enough.. some special helo might be required

 

Sorry just googled.. didnt realise they can really go that fast!? but yeah... but no cabin room for rescue crew

[Holdenutessv]

  On 2/15/2013 at 6:32 AM, Dark said:

Can't believe this could happen. Last time was a Toyota or Lexus in the US?

 

Can't even turn off the engine?

 

Do it wrongly, steering wheel gets locked or lose power steering.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Holdenutessv

[WTF]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:26 AM, Nodtviedt said:

Sorry just googled.. didnt realise they can really go that fast!? but yeah... but no cabin room for rescue crew

Then use a Chinook loh........

[Nodtviedt]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:26 AM, Turboflat4 said:

Apache's top speed = 293 km/hr. Max take off load > 10,000kg.

 

I checked!

 

Quite right!

 

There goes Bruce Willis to the flying school...

[Nicholas]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:10 AM, Turboflat4 said:

OK, OK, I'll dial it back. It was your insistence on your idea that irritated me, plus you baited me in the last post. If you accept that your suggestion is unworkable, that's good enough for me. Peace.

 

Of course, the spikes/handbrake suggestions are equally unworkable - unless it's OK that the disabled driver gets killed in the process. If that's allowed, there are plenty of options. But this guy is considered an "innocent". When it's a killer or drug dealer or terrorist on the run, they'll use any means to bring him down. All's fair, etc.

 

Airport runways can certainly sustain that speed - but the turn is the issue. Any roadgoing car will lose control, likely flipping end over end if a sudden, significant steering input is attempted at that speed. Let alone a complete U-turn.

 

Just watch a program like Top Gear or Fifth Gear. They do plenty of high speed runs along runways. Not once do they attempt to turn the car around at top speed and go back the way they came. In fact, they have to be rather careful with their braking points to make sure they have enough tarmac to bring the car to a dead stop before they get creamed.

 

Thanks for that.

 

My thinking is that, at high speed if the car get out of control when turning even for huge turns, but it's a big space, so even if he lost control while turning, he still won't hit anything. Then he can regain control and continue.

 

Even if something happened to him in the open space, it beats having something happened on the roads with other people.

[KaKiLang]

Happens once in Singapore, my disabled fren driving a wish in CTE, his hand-controled accerrator LOCKED ON and braking was useless at 80-90km, he exited balestier an crashed into a stationery van on the road side. The wish totaled but he was safe. He is driving a FD now. He owns a company selling hospital appliances in Kaki Bukit, theres only one there.

Edited February 15, 2013 by KaKiLang

[Holdenutessv]

Luckily he isn't on the A40+ route else he probably veer off the road or something while doing those kind of speeds.

[Nodtviedt]

  On 2/15/2013 at 10:35 AM, KaKiLang said:

Happens once in Singapore, my disabled fren driving a wish in CTE, his hand-controled accerrator LOCKED ON and braking was useless at 80-90km, he exited balestier an crashed into a stationery van on the road side. The wish totaled but he was safe. He is driving a FD now. He owns a company selling hospital appliances in Kaki Bukit, theres only one there.

 

They should really implement some manual override for those things... sounds pretty dangerous

[Celicar]

All those who think driving round in circles is a bad idea, you think driving around not in a circle at 200km/h is a better idea? Of course now we know the guy nothing wrong, but at that time would anyone know? It would be impossible to predict if you keep using 'new' road.